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US will never accept a nuclear-armed North korea: Kerry

By AFP

April 12, 2013 - Updated 1750 PKT
From Web Edition
SEOUL: US Secretary of State John Kerry Friday demanded North Korea abandon an expected missile launch as Pyongyang turned its nuclear threats on Japan amid a chilling new evaluation of its offensive capability.

Kerry, visiting Seoul to give fulsome US backing to military ally South Korea, joined President Barack Obama in decrying North Korea's incendiary rhetoric -- and urged China to step in.

The air of crisis that has engulfed the region for weeks, since North Korea staged a rocket launch and atomic test, was given even greater menace from a US intelligence report that said it may now have a nuclear warhead in its arsenal.

US and South Korean military officials downplayed the assessment by the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), but Pyongyang warned of the direst results if Japan executes its threat to shoot down any North Korean missile.

The North's Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) said such a "provocative" action would end with its instigators "consumed in nuclear flames".

"Japan is always in the cross-hairs of our revolutionary army and if Japan makes a slightest move, the spark of war will touch Japan first," KCNA said in a commentary.

Japan positioned Patriot anti-missile batteries around Tokyo this week to protect the 30 million people who live in the vast conurbation.

"The rhetoric that we are hearing from North Korea is simply unacceptable by any standards," Kerry told a news conference in Seoul alongside South Korean Foreign Minister Yun Byung-Se.

Any missile launch would be a "huge mistake", he said, adding that the US and the rest of the international community would never accept North Korea as a nuclear state.

But with military tensions on the Korean peninsula at their highest level for years, Kerry said Washington also chose to "honour" the vision of South Korea's new President Park Geun-Hye, who was elected on a pledge of greater engagement with Pyongyang.

"We're prepared to work with conviction that relations between North and South can improve and they can improve very quickly," Kerry said.

"I think we have lowered our rhetoric significantly and we are attempting to find a way for reasonableness to prevail here," he added.

Park has made a series of statements in recent days hinting at a dialogue with Pyongyang.

Yonhap news agency quoted her as telling ruling party officials Friday that the South should meet with the North and "listen to what North Korea thinks".

There was no indication what form such a meeting might take.

Kerry also said it was high time for China -- whose trade and aid have propped up North Korea since the end of the Cold War -- to intervene with its wayward ally if it truly wants to safeguard regional stability.

"China has an enormous capability to make a difference here," he said.

Intelligence officials in Seoul say the North, as a show of force, has two mid-range missiles ready for imminent launch from its east coast, and South Korea and Japan are on heightened alert for any test.

Pyongyang has not officially announced plans for a launch, but a state body in charge of inter-Korean exchanges stressed Thursday that "powerful strike means" were in place.

Observers believe a launch is most likely in the build-up to Monday's anniversary of the birth of late founder Kim Il-Sung, for which celebrations are already well under way in Pyongyang.

The mid-range missiles mobilised by the North are reported to be untested Musudan models with an estimated range of up to 2,485 miles (4,000 kilometres).

That would cover any target in South Korea and Japan, and possibly even US military bases on the Pacific island of Guam.

Obama said earlier that "nobody wants to see a conflict", but emphasised that the United States was ready to take "all necessary steps to protect its people" and defend its allies in the region.

North Korea has no proven capacity to shrink a nuclear device onto a missile tip. But for the first time, the DIA evaluation gave official US credence to Pyongyang's claim in February that it has now mastered the technology.

"DIA assesses with moderate confidence the North currently has nuclear weapons capable of delivery by ballistic missiles," said the report cited by a Republican lawmaker at a congressional hearing. "However, the reliability will be low."

But Pentagon spokesman George Little said it would be "inaccurate" to suggest North Korea had shown that it has such expertise, in a remark echoed by Director of National Intelligence James Clapper.

South Korea was also skeptical. Defence Ministry spokesman Kim Min-Seok said it was "still doubtful" that North Korea had perfected the deep technical expertise needed to craft a nuclear missile warhead.
 
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In other news North Korea or any other sovereign nation will never accept the warmongering nuclear-armed United States of America on their front steps.
 
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Uhhhhm; he's a bit late in the game they're nuclear armed for how long now
 
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Uhhhhm; he's a bit late in the game they're nuclear armed for how long now
Not too late. The 'weaponization' process is still in infancy. We can shut down the North Korean military anytime.
 
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Not too late. The 'weaponization' process is still in infancy. We can shut down the North Korean military anytime.

But you haven't thus far. Fear of China or is it not actionable as of yet

On side note - does this Kim Junior have military experience or has he always been civilian
 
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The US has been accepting a nuclear armed North Korea since 2006.

And they are still accepting it today.
 
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They have been accepting it for a long time and will accept it as long as the North Korean leaders doesnt go nuts and decide to Bomb Seoul.
 
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Not too late. The 'weaponization' process is still in infancy. We can shut down the North Korean military anytime.

I have a question sir regarding the bold part. How exactly do they test their nuclear weapons? The focus here is on weapons
 
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I have a question sir regarding the bold part. How exactly do they test their nuclear weapons? The focus here is on weapons
There is a great difference between a nuclear explosive DEVICE and a nuclear WEAPON.

The 'weaponization' process is after test detonations. Basically, you trim the 'fat' off the device, such as a few meters of wiring here, smaller electronics there, less sheetmetal over there, and so on. You want the device to be package-able and transportable. That package may be the size of a car or of a brief case, but it is a package and mobile nevertheless. Look up keyword search 'fat man little boy' and see the physical size of those early nuclear weapons. They were much larger than today's nuclear weapons but they were transportable packages.

Then after the packaging process, you still need to perform at least one more test detonation to prove that your packaging process did not introduce any design flaws that may prevent the nuclear fission process. Even after this you still cannot call it a 'weapon' because now you have to prove and provide a delivery vehicle, such as an aircraft or a car or a rocket. You have to prove that the delivery vehicle will not do something stupid like vibrate the nuclear components off their stations, for example.

All of this is on the presumption that you have a methodical 'weaponization' process with the goal of producing the smallest and most easily transportable package as possible. That is why this speculative missile test launch from North Korea is getting so much attention.
 
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There is a great difference between a nuclear explosive DEVICE and a nuclear WEAPON.

The 'weaponization' process is after test detonations. Basically, you trim the 'fat' off the device, such as a few meters of wiring here, smaller electronics there, less sheetmetal over there, and so on. You want the device to be package-able and transportable. That package may be the size of a car or of a brief case, but it is a package and mobile nevertheless. Look up keyword search 'fat man little boy' and see the physical size of those early nuclear weapons. They were much larger than today's nuclear weapons but they were transportable packages.

Then after the packaging process, you still need to perform at least one more test detonation to prove that your packaging process did not introduce any design flaws that may prevent the nuclear fission process. Even after this you still cannot call it a 'weapon' because now you have to prove and provide a delivery vehicle, such as an aircraft or a car or a rocket. You have to prove that the delivery vehicle will not do something stupid like vibrate the nuclear components off their stations, for example.

All of this is on the presumption that you have a methodical 'weaponization' process with the goal of producing the smallest and most easily transportable package as possible. That is why this speculative missile test launch from North Korea is getting so much attention.
What can your US do except sanctions?Does your country have guts to open a war with NK?NK don't really give a **** about those sanctions.Try harder next time.
 
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The US must mind its own business and get the **** out of Asia. In the name of peace you have already caused much destruction in the past 40 years or so.
 
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What can your US do except sanctions?Does your country have guts to open a war with NK?NK don't really give a **** about those sanctions.Try harder next time.
That is a quite stupid question because the military option is always available. We just are reluctant to exercise it. Whether NKR give a 'whatever' about those sanctions or not is not the point. When we do decide to exercise the military option, you will end up with egg foo young on your face just like how the PLA leadership was back in Desert Storm.
 
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