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US wants four ex-ISI officials declared terrorists

Good move for Pakistan. Will help the country get away from the dreaded legacy.

The real good move for Pakistan will be to demand the heads of CIA and RAW terrorists.
 
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Why don't they do that?. Not enough courage? or not enough evidence?.


look whose saying..the ppl who didnt provide the evidence of mumbai attck yet....ohh i m sorry it was an inside job as samjhota express was!!!

look for your own house first and dont **ck around if u hve got nothing....
 
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look whose saying..the ppl who didnt provide the evidence of mumbai attck yet....ohh i m sorry it was an inside job as samjhota express was!!!

look for your own house first and dont **ck around if u hve got nothing....

Latest reports say that, if Pakistan won't act on perpetrators of Mumbai attack, US will act. What does that tell you?.
 
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Latest reports say that, if Pakistan won't act on perpetrators of Mumbai attack, US will act. What does that tell you?.



if you are giving too much importence to what US says, let me remind you mate...it was the same US who was cliaming that iraq had some serious biological weapons....get that????

we know that they have their own agendas....
 
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if you are giving too much importence to what US says, let me remind you mate...it was the same US who was cliaming that iraq had some serious biological weapons....get that????

we know that they have their own agendas....

But what happened in the end to Iraq?.

There is enough evidence that US might have which they are now sharing with Pakistan. And Rice asked to act on those perpetrators based on that evidence.
 
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But what happened in the end to Iraq?.

There is enough evidence that US might have which they are now sharing with Pakistan. And Rice asked to act on those perpetrators based on that evidence.


didnt bush confessed that it was a biggest intelligence failure????

ohh yeah?? did u heard about pak taking action against someone?? i didnt...

cuase there is not much of evidence.... so cheers!
 
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Thursday, December 04, 2008

By Ansar Abbasi

ISLAMABAD: The US has given four names of former ISI officials, including Lt-Gen (retd) Hameed Gul, to the UN Security Council to put them on the list of international terrorists.

Government of Pakistan is aware of this move, which is considered here by some as part of an international conspiracy to target the ISI, whose reformation has already been sought by Washington.

The US embassy in Islamabad claims to be completely unaware of this move while the foreign office spokesman also did not come up with any explanation on the matter despite being approached on Tuesday.

However, Lt-Gen (retd) Hameed Gul confirmed to this correspondent that he was included in the list of those four or five former ISI officials whose names had been provided to the UN secretary-general by the US government to be included in the list of international terrorists.

Gul admitted that he had already met the foreign affairs secretary to discuss the issue. A Foreign Office source also told this correspondent that the issue had already been referred to the prime minister’s office but despite the lapse of a few weeks, no decision had been taken by the government so far. It is not clear whether or not Islamabad wants to pursue intense lobbying to stop this thing to happen.

A diplomatic source in Washington, however, told this correspondent that it would not be easy for the United States to get all these names enlisted in the list of terrorists because it would require the consent of the all the five permanent members of the Security Council.

Foreign Office spokesman Muhammad Sadiq was contacted on Tuesday to give its response on the matter but The News has not heard anything from his side till the filing of this report on Wednesday night. Off the cuff, Sadiq said he had heard or read about this but was not sure about the case.

The Pakistan embassy in Washington is not in the know of this move. Pak envoy to US Hussain Haqqani, when contacted, said he had no comment to offer as no such thing was routed through the Pakistani embassy.

However, another diplomatic source there confided to this correspondent that the US State Department had formally conveyed to the UN Security Council four to five names of former ISI officials, including Lt-Gen (retd) Hamid Gul, for inclusion in the list of international terrorists under Resolution 1267 of the Security Council.

In such a situation, those enlisted in this list of bad guys will be prevented from travelling outside the country of their residence while their assets would also be monitored and even frozen at times.

Lou Fintor, the US embassy spokesman, when contacted also said the embassy did not know anything about this. He said if this was true, then such a thing would have been dealt by the State Department and taken up directly with the UN there in Washington.

Lt-Gen (retd) Hameed Gul, however, admitted that he was aware of the move but was not sure if the prime minister had taken a decision on the issue. Believing that this is a move to target the ISI, he warned if the government of Pakistan did not protect him and others on the recommended list of terrorists, he would directly write to the UN secretary-general.

He said the government should immediately move to protect the ISI from this indirect attack from Washington. He said the United States and some other Western nations were against him for the simple reason that he did not support their war on terror which, he said, was based on Washington’s greed for energy.

He said the US and its allies in the war on terror had turned the world upside down and had made it far more dangerous than what it was before. He volunteered to present himself before any neutral enquiry commission. He said he also had the option to go to the country’s court of law but hastily added that he did not have trust in Pakistan’s judiciary.

When asked how he had come to know about this, he said, he was informed of this by a highly responsible person, who had personally seen the written US request. He hoped the government would not show callousness towards its own individuals and institutions like the ISI which, he admitted, was the first line of the country’s defence. Therefore, he must be protected from any external onslaught.

US wants four ex-ISI officials declared terrorists

Siding with Indians even when they lie will have unintended consequences for US in the war on terror. Pakistan should look towards a closer relationship with Iran and China. This is becoming annoying. On top of that idiot writers like Aisha akram here in toronto who manage to type up absolute bullshit for the toronto star also eat my head and are even more annoying than the American interference.

The lack of loyalty and patriotism amongst Pakistanis is being used to crush us in every field. Indian people always unite in the face of such attacks believing the media even if a blatant lie is being perpetuated by them. It is more than clear that the only beneficiaries from this attack are the hindu fanatics and the BJP which is set to win the damn elections and also to destroy the probes and progress Karkare has made to acquit hindu fanatics for the first time.

We Pakistanis on the other hand start blaming their own. 2 idiots writing biased and anti pakistani articles in toronto for toronto star include Mr Tarek Fateh and Aisha Akram. Obviously they forget that the name of Pakistan will always be attached to them no matter how big faggots they tend to be and try to bash Pakistan in their articles and somehow aquit ISI. What i dont understand is what is the reason of this disloyalty amongst the Pakistani community is. We dont believe our own media and our pown people and dont support our own industries and economy but always that of others.

I know that this is happening in many western nations. We must stand united against traitors to Pakistan. Their Pakistani citizenship should be cancelled if they cannot say anything useful about Pakistan.

Pakistani Nationalism has to replace all else within us.
 
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We Pakistanis on the other hand start blaming their own. 2 idiots writing biased and anti pakistani articles in toronto for toronto star include Mr Tarek Fateh and Aisha Akram. Obviously they forget that the name of Pakistan will always be attached to them no matter how big faggots they tend to be and try to bash Pakistan in their articles and somehow aquit ISI. What i dont understand is what is the reason of this disloyalty amongst the Pakistani community is. We dont believe our own media and our pown people and dont support our own industries and economy but always that of others.

Those are truths my friend, the sooner you digest, the better. Pakistan or for that matter India are not Utopian, all of them have deficiencies. People like journalists who criticize us, so that we can get better, get rid of our flaws and work towards a better society.

ISI has been shown to be involved in many terrorism related activities an is well known for a while. Your own newspapers have claimed that ISI is a state within a state.
 
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Those are truths my friend, the sooner you digest, the better. Pakistan or for that matter India are not Utopian, all of them have deficiencies. People like journalists who criticize us, so that we can get better, get rid of our flaws and work towards a better society.

ISI has been shown to be involved in many terrorism related activities an is well known for a while. Your own newspapers have claimed that ISI is a state within a state.

Just because 2 bought off traitors say something it does not change the truth. Tarek Fateh is an anti islamic and anti pakistani person reffering to Pakistan as India region as if he hates the very fact Pakistan was formed. Aisha Akram is also unreliable and naturally has shown her anti pakistani face once again.

The credibility of both authors is in question here but it is what hostile nations need. It is sad that loyalty and speaking the truth is not in the blood of Pakistanis but speaking that which the world wants to hear is what they want to say.
 
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The lack of loyalty and patriotism amongst Pakistanis is being used to crush us in every field. What i dont understand is what is the reason of this disloyalty amongst the Pakistani community is. We dont believe our own media and our pown people and dont support our own industries and economy but always that of others. Pakistani Nationalism has to replace all else within us.

Brother we in Bangladesh are suffering a similar illness with those loyal to Indian interests acting against the nation. The reason for this is that neither of our nationalist forces amongst the parties, army and intelligence try to promote the thinkers, writers and media personalities who could promote the national agenda. The Indians have invested in the media and cultural sectors in Bangladesh and they now dominate opinion although the majority of the people are resisting their viewpoint but how long will this last unless alternative ideas are aired. Spending money only on bullets and bombs will not secure the interests of the nation. There must be an investment in people.
 
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Nobody is taking our brave ISI anywhere, such hypocrisy, they light the world on fire through lies and bullying, then have the nerve to point fingers at others?

Yeh zaleelo koh kuch firm stance daykhana chaii hey, otherwise yeh log hamko bakri jasay kahjayingeh. Aap log samajtay hein kay Amreeka Pakistan ko super power bananay aya hein, yeh sub false theories hein.
 
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