US Veteran: We murdered 170 Vietnamese

[gambit]

Thats so fcuked up. So despite everything they did you want them back?

They lied to you
They murdered you
They refuse to acknowledge their crimes and pay reparations.
They poisoned you with their chemicals
They call you Gook and dont even see you as people

China never did any of those things in Viet Nam's past? But of course, you softened them as 'issues'.

But China is the enemy?

China that sent rice and fuel and weapons?
China that assisted at Dien Bien Phu with the artillery pieces?
China that trained the Vietnamese?

Stab me in the back today and you erased every good things you did for me yesterday.

 

[Viet]

there are more than one viet on this forum and in this thread.

OK understood

sorry to say, yes, you are naive, there is simply no black or white matter, bussiness is bussiness, they even spy on their close allies,interfere if necessary let alone commiunst vietnam.

you don´t understand the basic calculus. the US is never a threat to our survival, but China.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Neither do you PDF Chinese sees the Viets as equals human beings. You guys' constant racist attacks are evident of that. Good thing that you guys have a friendly admin staff.


Wrong. If we look at history, what China did to Viet Nam are worse in terms of time and atrocities. It was so bad that Ho supposedly said: "It is better to sniff French shit for one hundred yrs than to eat Chinese shit for one thousand."

Vietnamese Americans in the US may face racist attacks. In contrast there have been zero attacks against Vietnamese in China, including immigrants, temporary expats and Kinh/Jing ethnic Chinese.

Can you point out a single racist statement in this thread against Vietnamese? It is Vietnamese who are calling Chinese bootlickers, puppets, etc.

 

[gambit]

Can you point out a single racist statement in this thread against Vietnamese?

In this thread? Are you that desperate to salvage face for yourselves? We are talking about GENERAL behaviors all over.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

In this thread? Are you that desperate to salvage face for yourselves? We are talking about GENERAL behaviors all over.

I think the anti-Vietnamese racists have all been banned already. Unfortunately anti-Chinese racists are still here.

 

[gambit]

Many Vietnamese have chosen to forgive and forget about the Americans for their atrocities towards Vietnamese people during the war. Sad indeed!

Why is it 'sad'?

The dead remains dead and all we can do is remember them. However, the living have dual responsibilities: They are stewards of the present and must prepare the present for the future generation.

In terms of history, if we are to look at the scale of 'goods' vs 'benefits', then China is the worse. For France and the US, France was colonial master of Indochina for about 100 yrs, and the US military involvement in Viet Nam was about 25 yrs. Combined, theirs was a mere blip when compared against China's one thousand yrs of repeated invasion and subjugation of Viet Nam.

So if you do not like to look at it in terms of history, then looking at Viet Nam in the present still not make China the better choice. Remember, China just claimed the entirety of the South China Sea as territorial waters, effectively imprison most of Southeast Asia. So how is that better for Viet Nam, Laos, Cambodia, and Thailand?

 

[Muhammed45]

Why is it 'sad'?

The dead remains dead and all we can do is remember them. However, the living have dual responsibilities: They are stewards of the present and must prepare the present for the future generation.

In terms of history, if we are to look at the scale of 'goods' vs 'benefits', then China is the worse. For France and the US, France was colonial master of Indochina for about 100 yrs, and the US military involvement in Viet Nam was about 25 yrs. Combined, theirs was a mere blip when compared against China's one thousand yrs of repeated invasion and subjugation of Viet Nam.

So if you do not like to look at it in terms of history, then looking at Viet Nam in the present still not make China the better choice. Remember, China just claimed the entirety of the South China Sea as territorial waters, effectively imprison most of Southeast Asia. So how is that better for Viet Nam, Laos, Cambodia, and Thailand?

Why don't you apology then?

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

Neither do you PDF Chinese sees the Viets as equals human beings. You guys' constant racist attacks are evident of that. Good thing that you guys have a friendly admin staff.


Wrong. If we look at history, what China did to Viet Nam are worse in terms of time and atrocities. It was so bad that Ho supposedly said: "It is better to sniff French shit for one hundred yrs than to eat Chinese shit for one thousand."

Haha are you into peddling fake news too old man?

It is alleged that he said it. Trace it back and you will find roots in French colonial masters.

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

China never did any of those things in Viet Nam's past? But of course, you softened them as 'issues'.


Stab me in the back today and you erased every good things you did for me yesterday.

Who stabbed who?

The world was shifting as it always is. Vietnam sided with the Soviets and invaded Cambodia and goaded China into a fight.

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

China never did any of those things in Viet Nam's past? But of course, you softened them as 'issues'.


Stab me in the back today and you erased every good things you did for me yesterday.

Chinese and Vietnamese relations go back thousands of years so of course there have been wars. During the Song dynasty Vietnam even took what is today modern Nanning. But in a short period of French and Japanese rule and American warmongering the amount of damage was unprecedented. Western Imperialism cannot be compared in destruction and atrocities.

 

[gambit]

Haha are you into peddling fake news too old man?

It is alleged that he said it. Trace it back and you will find roots in French colonial masters.

What is not 'fake news' is that the Ho-Sainteny Agreement brought France back to Viet Nam. Look it up.

 

[gambit]

The world was shifting as it always is. Vietnam sided with the Soviets and invaded Cambodia and goaded China into a fight.

All the more reasons to not look at the China-Viet Nam relationship as somehow a solid foundation. People have to deal with the now for the future, and if the present Viets chose to gamble with the West -- tough shit for China.

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

What is not 'fake news' is that the Ho-Sainteny Agreement brought France back to Viet Nam. Look it up.

So he signed a deal with the devil?

Tough times and limited choices. France would not let Vietnam go agreement or not. Western exploitation and atrocities knows no bounds.

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

All the more reasons to not look at the China-Viet Nam relationship as somehow a solid foundation. People have to deal with the now for the future, and if the present Viets chose to gamble with the West -- tough shit for China.

All the sadder for Vietnam.

America is far away and China is a stone throws away. Short sightedness had Vietnam side with the Soviets. Will short sightedness have them side with the west?

I dont have much faith in Vietnam but Im sure they aren't THAT stupid.

 

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