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US vacates Pakistan base amid drone debate

Our Fazaiya knows nothing about the operations of Americans from Shamsi and our secret service didn't even bother to check out the number of soldiers and their nationality out there and irony is when such things happen we start abusing politicians. Some idiots are talking about coup my question is who will support them to take over, they cant even perform their duties properly how will they manage whole country?

I guess we are just wasting our money and if we spend just 5% of defense budget on health and education sector we can have world class education and health facilities within 5 years comparable to develop nations.

hello buddy why are you blaming PAF and ISI for this? During Musharraf tenure all Americans were subjected to have clearance from ISI, but post Musharraf, your political government gave green pass to every and every one to enter Pakistan and they waved off security clearance from ISI and do you wanna know who issued the visas? it's your beloved Hussain Haqqani and Shah mahmood qureshi. It all came with the package with KLB bill which was introduced and defended heavily by SMQ of now senior vice president of PTI, motto CHANGE, INQILAAB, Shah Mehmood Qureshi's speech on Kerry Lugar bill (Part-6) - YouTube

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why blame now just expel them, and not cry!

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look how he is defending KLB, Pakistan ka Allah Hafiz
 
Shamshi was nothing but the most lethal base is Jacababad which was emptied out by Musharraf in 2006 but re given to americans in 2008 by political government. that is the main base which is known for operational base
 
how on earth can Pakistan take control of Shamsi when it was leased to UAE ??
 
how on earth can Pakistan take control of Shamsi when it was leased to UAE ??

Zabardasti. Haq se.

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Shamshi was nothing but the most lethal base is Jacababad which was emptied out by Musharraf in 2006 but re given to americans in 2008 by political government. that is the main base which is known for operational base

Your source on that?
 
Never mind, found some damning info published recently about Shahbaz Airbase

Hundreds of US troops housed at Shahbaz base: US think tank

LAHORE: According to “Global Security,” the Virginia-based US public policy organization focusing on the fields of defence, space exploration, intelligence, weapons of mass destruction and homeland security, seven American C-130 cargo/troop carrying aircraft were parked at Jacobabad’s Shahbaz air base in mid-October 2001 and by late November 2001, hundreds of US soldiers were housed in the 42 aircraft hangars at this strip.

“Global Security” has clearly mentioned on its website that along with the American C-130 cargo/troop carrying aircraft, some helicopters (possibly gun ships) were also stationed at this air base, which according to the Pakistani Federal Minister for Defence, Chaudhary Ahmed Mukhtar, is still in use of the world super power.

Ahmed Mukhtar had admitted these facts while talking to newsmen on Wednesday. “Global Security” website reads that the strip at Jacobabad was one of three Pakistani bases used by US and allied forces to support the Operation Enduring Freedom campaign in Afghanistan.

This is what the “Global Security” website mentions with reference to the PAF Shahbaz air base: “The commercial airport at Jacobabad, about 300 miles north of Karachi and 300 miles southeast of Kandahar, is located on the border between Sindh and Balochistan provinces.

Jacobabad is one of three Pakistani bases used by US and allied forces to support the Operation Enduring Freedom campaign in Afghanistan. The other bases are at Dalbandin and Pasni. Under the terms of an agreement with Pakistan, the Allied forces can use these bases for search and rescue missions, but are not permitted to use them to stage attacks on Taliban targets.”

“Global Security” claims, “Both Jacobabad and Pasni bases have been sealed off and a 5km cordon set up around the bases by Pakistani security forces. As of mid-October 2001, it was reported that seven US C-130 cargo/troop carrying aircraft were at the airbase at Jacobabad, together with some helicopters [possibly including gun ships]. The number of US commandos on the base was said to have reached 200. About 250 Marines are stationed at Jacobabad for search-and-rescue missions.”

This US think tank’s website, which was rated by Forbes as one of the best web directories used by it, adds that Jacobabad was the scene of several protests by opponents of the US air strikes on Afghanistan.

The website further states: “The Jamaat-e-Islami threatened to storm the air base of Jacobabad, and police have arrested dozens of the party’s supporters. When Islamic extremists tried to march to the Jacobabad airfield on October 14, 2001, one person was killed and 24 people injured in clashes with police. Islamic militants summoned by Jamaat-e-Islam want to expel US personnel participating in the Operation Enduring Freedom military campaign. By late October 2001 roads to the city were blocked for days to prevent entry of protestors. But on October 23, about 200 militants appeared in the city, and at least 100 protesters had been arrested. Subsequently, protests subsided. By late November 2001, hundreds of US Army soldiers were housed in 42 aircraft hangars at the air base.”

It reveals: “In early December 2001, Pakistan agreed to an American request for a long-term presence at Jacobabad. The US requested 40,000 metric tons of concrete to renovate the base. A wall surrounding the base will be raised by four feet, and air-conditioned barracks would be built for US troops (Jacobabad is said to be the hottest city in Pakistan). All but a few Pakistani liaison officers would be withdrawn from the base. US forces would continue to maintain a presence at airfields in Pasni and Dalbandin.

By early 2002, the US had done extensive construction and repair work at Jacobabad, and installed radar equipment. In late December 2001, Pakistan notified the US that the bases at Jacobabad and Pasni might be needed by the Pakistani Air Force, in the wake of rising tensions between India and Pakistan.

The facilities were partially reclaimed by Pakistan, and as of early January 2002 both Pakistani and American forces were operating at the two airfields. The US military retained exclusive use of the Dalbandin and Shamsi bases.”

“Global Security” goes on to write: “By March 2004 there were reports increased US operations in Pakistan. Two air bases — Dalbandin and Shahbaz — were the focus for extensive movements to provide logistical support for Special Forces and intelligence operations. Shahbaz Air Base near Jacobabad appeared to be the key to the US’s spring offensive. At Jacobabad, C-17 transports were reportedly involved in daily deliveries of supplies.

A report in the Pakistani newspaper the Daily Times (March 10, 2004) claimed that the airbase was under US control, with an inner ring of facilities off-limits to Pakistan’s military. Jacobabad is the third largest airport in the country in terms of area. The Jacobabad airport is one of the few airports in Pakistan that can be used jointly for military and commercial flight operations. Also known as PAF Shahbaz, the facility is a Forward Operational Base (FOB) which would become fully operational during wartime.”

As a matter of fact, it is the same Shahbaz Air base where approximately 300 American and Pakistani officials had commemorated the delivery of the first three of 18 new F-16 aircraft to Pakistan from the US during an induction ceremony held on June 27 last year.

A US Embassy Press release dated June 27, 2010 had explicitly mentioned that the American and Pakistani officials attending the afore-mentioned ceremony had included Pakistan Air Force Chief, Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman, US Ambassador Anne Patterson, the US Air Force Chief of Staff, General Norton Schwartz, the PAF Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations, Air Marshal Mohammad Hassan, the US Air Force Central Command commander, Lt. Gen. Mike Hostage, and the US Navy Vice Admiral, Michael LeFever, who was also the US Defence Representative to Pakistan.
 
hello buddy why are you blaming PAF and ISI for this? During Musharraf tenure all Americans were subjected to have clearance from ISI, but post Musharraf, your political government gave green pass to every and every one to enter Pakistan and they waved off security clearance from ISI and do you wanna know who issued the visas? it's your beloved Hussain Haqqani and Shah mahmood qureshi. It all came with the package with KLB bill which was introduced and defended heavily by SMQ of now senior vice president of PTI, motto CHANGE, INQILAAB, Shah Mehmood Qureshi's speech on Kerry Lugar bill (Part-6) - YouTube

---------- Post added at 01:49 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:48 AM ----------

why blame now just expel them, and not cry!

---------- Post added at 01:49 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:49 AM ----------

look how he is defending KLB, Pakistan ka Allah Hafiz


Mate mush was in power from 1999 to 2007 and Kiyani was a dg isi and as a coas is in power from 2004 to 2011 and today we don't even know what was happening in Shamsi. :lol:

Look at Iran and their operational preparedness. We havn't seen a single military parade in last 4 years, not even a flying or static display of JF-17 for Pakistani's, Navy used its influence to ban tv show "We are soldiers" when it comes to their PR they show influence and danda to everyone and when it comes to national security issues where are they and their influence.
 
Mate mush was in power from 1999 to 2007 and Kiyani was a dg isi and as a coas is in power from 2004 to 2011 and today we don't even know what was happening in Shamsi. :lol:

Look at Iran and their operational preparedness. We havn't seen a single military parade in last 4 years, not even a flying or static display of JF-17 for Pakistani's, Navy used its influence to ban tv show "We are soldiers" when it comes to their PR they show influence and danda to everyone and when it comes to national security issues where are they and their influence.
They are in active war right now the so called war of Terror.........so i dont think they are going to make any military parade.
 
For starters ... being 'jew' shouldn't be a fuss as long as they r US soliders, i m sceptic about their presence in my country. This is just an ill-informed bravado that since they r jews so they should be hated ... there r alot more people here who do things which would even put 'satan' to shame... like selling blood of my countrymen for US dollars so that our Generals/Politician's offspring can enjoy a lavish hereafter in foreign lands and celebrate their'success' in Officers' mess adorned with sparkling medals and perfectly ironed Khaki uniform discussing the new DHA plot.
 
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Pakistani authorities took over Shamsi airbase in the Washuk district on Sunday, as American personnel met the deadline for eviction given earlier by the government.
Express News reported that the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) and Frontier Constabulary have taken control of the base. According to sources, the US nationals present at the base had earlier removed radars and other sensitive equipment that was present at the base. Sources say that much of the cargo and drones had been shifted to Afghanistan.
However, three vehicles belonging to American authorities were still present at the base this morning.
An America flag that was previously hoisted at the base was reportedly removed by the CAA authorities.
Pakistan had served a 15 day notice to US to pack up and leave the air strip, located some 300 km south of Quetta, Balochistan. The decision came after a NATO air strike on a Pakistani border post killed at least 24 soldiers, wounding a further 12, on November 26. Pakistan told US to leave the base, suspended fuel and other supplies through land routes, and pulled out from border coordination centers.
The Shamsi base, initially leased to the government of UAE in 1992, had been given to the US after it started Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan in late 2001. US publicly says it uses the base for refuelling and running maintenance on its surveillance drone. However, it is believed that the US has also operated armed versions of its drones from the same air strip to attack targets in Afghanistan, and even in Pakistan.

Express Tribune

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boond boond se hi ghara bharta hai , hope pakistan wont flownder this time ????????
 
WOW !!! So now we hav conquered Shamsi airbase ...bravo bravo ... our General has won another battle , another medal for him ...this achievement will be celebrated now for another few years.
 
3 4 bases are still in US control I dont know why Ghairat Brigade is not talking about it, Includind Shahbaz, and Terbaila Ghazi
 

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