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US tried to play N-deal card to pressurise India against Iran

US tried to play N-deal card to pressurise India against Iran

Posted: Sat Dec 18 2010, 16:47 hrs
New Delhi

At a time when the nuclear deal was being negotiated, the US had tried to pressurise India over its ties with Iran and even objected to President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's visit to Delhi, saying it would give "platform for an enemy of the US", according to Wikileak documents.

The cables sent by the then US Ambassador David Mulford to the State Department make it clear that India did not want America to tell it "what to do, especially in public" as it wanted to be seen pursuing an independent foreign policy.

"This government has to be seen following an independent foreign policy, not responding to dictation from the US," the then Foreign Secretary Shivshankar Menon told Mulford, according to one of the cables.

The cables reveal that Mulford had tried to play the 'nuclear deal' card to pressurise India against hosting Ahmadinejad on April 29, 2008, when he had a "stopover" of few hours in New Delhi while returning home from Sri Lanka.

During the brief visit, the Iranian President had held talks with Prime Minister Manomhan Singh.

"The average American will wonder why the US has gone out of its way to have a nuclear cooperation initiative with India, when India is so friendly to Iran," Mulford had told the Indian officials.

He had warned that the visit would be seen by Americans, especially the Congress, as "providing a platform for an enemy of the US".

Mulford's cable notes that "Members of (US) Congress and the Administration strongly believe that Ahmadinejad is guilty of killing Americans in Iraq, developing a nuclear weapons program to blackmail the world, and sponsoring international terrorist activities... I cannot predict what the effect of this visit will be."

Responding to the US' warnings on the issue, Menon had told Mulford that "there is nothing in this visit that should upset you".

Menon had emphasised that India had little choice after the Iranian authorities had requested for a stop in transit.

"We can talk with him (Ahmadinejad) without affecting our other relationships," Menon told America citing the strong India-Israel relationship that has withstood India's flirtation with Iran.

He added that Iran was important for India as the two countries needed to work together for dealing with Afghanistan.

After his interactions with Menon, Mulford had concluded that no US interference was required in Indo-Iranian relations as India had been warned about risking its image of an emerging global player.

The Ambassador had observed that "sharp, public comments from the US government will only push India and Iran closer together."
 
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lol... not only us pressurized india but also india was pressurized .. this is evident on the indias vote against iran 2 times despite initially indian law makers were against the vote including mon mohan singh who asked whether there are any way to remain absent in the vote.... but unfortunately this toilet paper super power India... was pressurized and even said to USA... do not say in public what is needed to be done as we want to portray our selves a super power ( lol.. biggest joke) and take independent decision...but you can say and treat us in private as we are used to with it ...
 
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US tried to play N-deal card to pressurise India against Iran

US tried to play N-deal card to pressurise India against Iran

Posted: Sat Dec 18 2010, 16:47 hrs
New Delhi

At a time when the nuclear deal was being negotiated, the US had tried to pressurise India over its ties with Iran and even objected to President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's visit to Delhi, saying it would give "platform for an enemy of the US", according to Wikileak documents.

The cables sent by the then US Ambassador David Mulford to the State Department make it clear that India did not want America to tell it "what to do, especially in public" as it wanted to be seen pursuing an independent foreign policy.

"This government has to be seen following an independent foreign policy, not responding to dictation from the US," the then Foreign Secretary Shivshankar Menon told Mulford, according to one of the cables.

The cables reveal that Mulford had tried to play the 'nuclear deal' card to pressurise India against hosting Ahmadinejad on April 29, 2008, when he had a "stopover" of few hours in New Delhi while returning home from Sri Lanka.

During the brief visit, the Iranian President had held talks with Prime Minister Manomhan Singh.

"The average American will wonder why the US has gone out of its way to have a nuclear cooperation initiative with India, when India is so friendly to Iran," Mulford had told the Indian officials.

He had warned that the visit would be seen by Americans, especially the Congress, as "providing a platform for an enemy of the US".

Mulford's cable notes that "Members of (US) Congress and the Administration strongly believe that Ahmadinejad is guilty of killing Americans in Iraq, developing a nuclear weapons program to blackmail the world, and sponsoring international terrorist activities... I cannot predict what the effect of this visit will be."

Responding to the US' warnings on the issue, Menon had told Mulford that "there is nothing in this visit that should upset you".

Menon had emphasised that India had little choice after the Iranian authorities had requested for a stop in transit.

"We can talk with him (Ahmadinejad) without affecting our other relationships," Menon told America citing the strong India-Israel relationship that has withstood India's flirtation with Iran.

He added that Iran was important for India as the two countries needed to work together for dealing with Afghanistan.

After his interactions with Menon, Mulford had concluded that no US interference was required in Indo-Iranian relations as India had been warned about risking its image of an emerging global player.

The Ambassador had observed that "sharp, public comments from the US government will only push India and Iran closer together."


I have highlighted part and you tell me where India got pressureized.

Moreover even recently although one of the their minister stated Anti - India propaganda, India didn't voted against it but remain absent. (it would have voted in favor of it). As said, India is follower of its own foreign policy. Neither Iran nor America can ask him to do.
 
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I have highlighted part and you tell me where India got pressureized.

Moreover even recently although one of the their minister stated Anti - India propaganda, India didn't voted against it but remain absent. (it would have voted in favor of it). As said, India is follower of its own foreign policy. Neither Iran nor America can ask him to do.

You highlighted only about the iranian presidents stop over in delhi... but india was pressurized and was said if india do not vote against iran the nuclear deal will be canceled... this is a pure black mail and threat and india was purely caved in due to the pressure and threat... and proves that it can not take independent foreign policy and is nothing more than a paper tiger which even asked us ambassador not to tell in public what to do as we want to show the people we are taking independent foreign policy...
 
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Americans can see how much goodwill they got with the India public. Come on they know that the Indian PM himself was "stressing" out because all wanted all the details to be perfect for Obamissiah's visit.

phillipino leaders once remarked that the phillipines was democratic and loyal to america during ww2, yet all america's rebulding effort was towards Japan...it was have been better for the phillipine to be "an enemy of the US"

you dont think Americans leaders could see how the Indian media and 90% of its leaders are basically drooling to get closer to the US?

dam if one read the TOI, hindutimes, or any India's media medium they would think its from the US. LOL local news in the US, what oprah eats for lunch makes headlines news in India. Go to any US's media...india rarely is in the news.

come on India! the chinese play host to admandinejaeh(whatever his name is) and its companies are dealing with Iran right in the face of the US. and India is nervous about US' reaction for just a "stopover"

"India did not want America to tell it "what to do, especially in public" as it wanted to be seen pursuing an independent foreign policy." despite wanting to be seen as independent...i think its safe to said that India is willing so kowtow to America like the UK.

but we dont need wikileaks to "reveal" this. most people outside India already know that India will tip toe along what America dictates.

the Iranians are not stupid, just recent the iranian ayatolloa started public supporting kashmir. I don't think he did this in return to indian "independent foreign policy"
 
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Americans can see how much goodwill they got with the India public. Come on they know that the Indian PM himself was "stressing" out because all wanted all the details to be perfect for Obamissiah's visit.

phillipino leaders once remarked that the phillipines was democratic and loyal to america during ww2, yet all america's rebulding effort was towards Japan...it was have been better for the phillipine to be "an enemy of the US"

you dont think Americans leaders could see how the Indian media and 90% of its leaders are basically drooling to get closer to the US?

dam if one read the TOI, hindutimes, or any India's media medium they would think its from the US. LOL local news in the US, what oprah eats for lunch makes headlines news in India. Go to any US's media...india rarely is in the news.

come on India! the chinese play host to admandinejaeh(whatever his name is) and its companies are dealing with Iran right in the face of the US. and India is nervous about US' reaction for just a "stopover"

"India did not want America to tell it "what to do, especially in public" as it wanted to be seen pursuing an independent foreign policy." despite wanting to be seen as independent...i think its safe to said that India is willing so kowtow to America like the UK.

but we dont need wikileaks to "reveal" this. most people outside India already know that India will tip toe along what America dictates.

the Iranians are not stupid, just recent the iranian ayatolloa started public supporting kashmir. I don't think he did this in return to indian "independent foreign policy"
Check out this guys,
A japanese and canadian knows about Kashmir,about Times of india,Hindustan times..,about Islamic countries..:lol:
Isn't it fishy...:oops:
 
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yep buddy and I also know pats/falcons..pats will win the superbowl,

and the phillies rotaion is halladay, lee, oswalt, hamels is sickest rotation is baseball history
I play college baseball, can easily get around a 90mph fastball.


of wait i must be chinese or pakistani right? because we know how popular baseball is there. and they watch and bet on football religiously.


my bad dude, i must be chinese/pakistani canadian...because we all know how chinese and pakistani parent in Canada love to put their kids into baseball at the age of 5 and their kids into summer football camps
 
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dont hate on me brother when I know people who are serving in afghanistan...you know it makes you want to learn more about the region

dont hate on me borther, because when i google obama... a million article from india comes out....kind a gives you a perspective

when all the headlines goes a little something like this....

"PM awake late worried over details of Obama visit"
"Obama said we have arrived on world stage"
"US and India special relationship" ..... so on and so on

and most of this was from India media and it was out like 6 months prior to obama visit

dont hate buddy, because some people in the world know more than you want them to!

considering my next door neighbour a doctor of pakistani decent, my neighbourhood is 70% ethinically chinese canadians, my best friend married a hindu. we just celebrated diwali with my gf' best friend family. my extended family is mutli ethinc, mulit racial...one woudl expect you to be opened to the world's issue.

but then again many of us are not fortunate enough to live in a wonderful country CANADA
 
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