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The Coalition’s train and equip program does everything possible to carefully screen participants in the program and to monitor their equipment. These standards are one of the reasons that we have only trained a small number of fighters to date. Even with this screening and other precautions, we can't control every situation that these fighters encounter once they return t‎o Syria.

Syria is a very complicated battlefield with ISIL, Al Nusra and the moderate and vetted opposition's area of control frequently and sometimes quickly shifting. This is a battlefield situation in which the moderate and vetted opposition continues to face threats on multiple fronts, including from various extremist groups. It's important to be clear eyed about the conditions in which these forces operate, the groups working against them, and the need to overcome the challenges they have encountered and will continue to face.

In this particular instance, the VSO commander leading the NSF graduates self-reported to coalition forces that under threat from Al Nusra, they surrendered six trucks and ammunition to a suspected Al Nusra Front intermediary to secure safe passage after being told that unless he surrendered some of his NSF equipment, his unit would be ambushed en route to their new location. We will look at what we can do to prevent such a situation in the future, but given the complexity of the battlefield it is not possible to eliminate all risk. We are using all means at our disposal to look into what exactly happened and determine the appropriate response.

We are committed to strengthening and growing those forces who fight ISIL. This program remains an important tool to do so. We recognize the challenges faced by T&E program graduates and will continue to review and adapt the program to make them as effective as possible. Here is an update to the information above and I will be posting as many.
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And here is the official press release that @forcetrip was quoting from. Thank you all for your patience and attention.


Reports of New Syrian Force Equipment Being Provided to Al Nusra Front​

TAMPA, Fla. - U.S. Central Command was notified at approximately 1 p.m. today [September 25] that a commander of a New Syrian Forces element operating in Syria surrendered some of his unit's Coalition-issued equipment to a suspected Al Nusra Front intermediary purportedly in exchange for safe passage within their operating area.

"Today the NSF unit contacted Coalition representatives and informed us that on Sept. 21-22 they gave six pick-up trucks and a portion of their ammunition to a suspected Al Nusra Front intermediary, which equates to roughly 25 percent of their issued equipment," said Col. Patrick Ryder, U.S. Central Command spokesperson. "If accurate, the report of NSF members providing equipment to Al Nusra Front is very concerning and a violation of Syria train and equip program guidelines."

Earlier this week, Al Nusra Front tweeted an image of a Coalition-issued rifle and claimed that the newest NSF members had handed over all their weapons upon re-entering Syria last week. Central Command conducted an analysis of the image depicted in the Tweet and determined the claim to be false. This determination was based on NSF members reporting that all personnel and equipment were under NSF control and because the tweeted image was an old picture repurposed from the Facebook page of a previously deployed NSF fighter from a different training class.

"In light of this new information, we wanted to ensure the public was informed as quickly as possible about the facts as we know them at this time," said Col. Ryder. "We are using all means at our disposal to look into what exactly happened and determine the appropriate response."

Haroon Ahmad
DET - U.S. Central Command
United States Central Command - Urdu
 
The Coalition’s train and equip program does everything possible to carefully screen participants in the program and to monitor their equipment. These standards are one of the reasons that we have only trained a small number of fighters to date. Even with this screening and other precautions, we can't control every situation that these fighters encounter once they return t‎o Syria.

Syria is a very complicated battlefield with ISIL, Al Nusra and the moderate and vetted opposition's area of control frequently and sometimes quickly shifting. This is a battlefield situation in which the moderate and vetted opposition continues to face threats on multiple fronts, including from various extremist groups. It's important to be clear eyed about the conditions in which these forces operate, the groups working against them, and the need to overcome the challenges they have encountered and will continue to face.

In this particular instance, the VSO commander leading the NSF graduates self-reported to coalition forces that under threat from Al Nusra, they surrendered six trucks and ammunition to a suspected Al Nusra Front intermediary to secure safe passage after being told that unless he surrendered some of his NSF equipment, his unit would be ambushed en route to their new location. We will look at what we can do to prevent such a situation in the future, but given the complexity of the battlefield it is not possible to eliminate all risk. We are using all means at our disposal to look into what exactly happened and determine the appropriate response.

We are committed to strengthening and growing those forces who fight ISIL. This program remains an important tool to do so. We recognize the challenges faced by T&E program graduates and will continue to review and adapt the program to make them as effective as possible. Here is an update to the information above and I will be posting as many.
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And here is the official press release that @forcetrip was quoting from. Thank you all for your patience and attention.


Reports of New Syrian Force Equipment Being Provided to Al Nusra Front​

TAMPA, Fla. - U.S. Central Command was notified at approximately 1 p.m. today [September 25] that a commander of a New Syrian Forces element operating in Syria surrendered some of his unit's Coalition-issued equipment to a suspected Al Nusra Front intermediary purportedly in exchange for safe passage within their operating area.

"Today the NSF unit contacted Coalition representatives and informed us that on Sept. 21-22 they gave six pick-up trucks and a portion of their ammunition to a suspected Al Nusra Front intermediary, which equates to roughly 25 percent of their issued equipment," said Col. Patrick Ryder, U.S. Central Command spokesperson. "If accurate, the report of NSF members providing equipment to Al Nusra Front is very concerning and a violation of Syria train and equip program guidelines."

Earlier this week, Al Nusra Front tweeted an image of a Coalition-issued rifle and claimed that the newest NSF members had handed over all their weapons upon re-entering Syria last week. Central Command conducted an analysis of the image depicted in the Tweet and determined the claim to be false. This determination was based on NSF members reporting that all personnel and equipment were under NSF control and because the tweeted image was an old picture repurposed from the Facebook page of a previously deployed NSF fighter from a different training class.

"In light of this new information, we wanted to ensure the public was informed as quickly as possible about the facts as we know them at this time," said Col. Ryder. "We are using all means at our disposal to look into what exactly happened and determine the appropriate response."

Haroon Ahmad
DET - U.S. Central Command
United States Central Command - Urdu

Stop arming these guys. Do not continue making the same mistakes over and over again. If you want to remove despots killing children, then try to stop your allies who you protect by vetoing bills in the UN over killing children or who you let head human rights commission when they just got off bombing wedding parties just the other day. If you say mistakes are human then so is that idiot Assad. Join the coalition to eradicate these moderate and extremist terrorists and then deal with Assad the despot once the situation gives you one enemy to deal with. If you don't you will look like the ones prolonging this along with your coalition of 60 countries. I know its a tough pill to swallow but sometimes when you make excuses that its only 25% of the equipment that was given away instead of the 75% that's being used against the government of a country you have lost the plot already.
 
Stop arming these guys. Do not continue making the same mistakes over and over again. If you want to remove despots killing children, then try to stop your allies who you protect by vetoing bills in the UN over killing children or who you let head human rights commission when they just got off bombing wedding parties just the other day. If you say mistakes are human then so is that idiot Assad. Join the coalition to eradicate these moderate and extremist terrorists and then deal with Assad the despot once the situation gives you one enemy to deal with. If you don't you will look like the ones prolonging this along with your coalition of 60 countries. I know its a tough pill to swallow but sometimes when you make excuses that its only 25% of the equipment that was given away instead of the 75% that's being used against the government of a country you have lost the plot already.

Don't expect grapes from a mango tree. Hypocrisy is the backbone of the US foreign policy. Without that there's no way to justify assrahell's state terrorism and illegal and immoral occupation of Palestine.
 
Stop arming these guys. Do not continue making the same mistakes over and over again..

They don't consider funding, arming and supporting cannibal zombies aka "moderate rebels" a mistake.

They call it cheap price for implementation of a same sex marriage friendly modern interpretation of Jeffersonian democracy in Syria.

It is really a shame though that they do not apply the same desire for a same sex marriage friendly modern interpretation of Jeffersonian democracy to Saudi Arabia or Qatar for instance.

It would have been nice if they did that. At least people around the world would not have accused them of hypocrisy.
 
They don't consider funding, arming and supporting cannibal zombies aka "moderate rebels" a mistake.

They call it cheap price for implementation of a same sex marriage friendly modern interpretation of Jeffersonian democracy in Syria.

It is really a shame though that they do not apply the same desire for a same sex marriage friendly modern interpretation of Jeffersonian democracy to Saudi Arabia or Qatar for instance.

It would have been nice if they did that. At least people around the world would not have accused them of hypocrisy.

For USA, funding them is not really a mistake. They get to keep the middle eastern countries weak, unstable, and always buying weapons. The worst outcome for them is occasional terrorist attacks against them. Small price to pay to stop unified, allied, middle east from ever happening.

What I don't understand is why the middle east countries fund them! Even a baby knows that if THEY get the blow back it can destroy them.
 
For USA, funding them is not really a mistake. They get to keep the middle eastern countries weak, unstable, and always buying weapons. The worst outcome for them is occasional terrorist attacks against them. Small price to pay to stop unified, allied, middle east from ever happening.

What I don't understand is why the middle east countries fund them! Even a baby knows that if THEY get the blow back it can destroy them.

Because their political orders are not legitimate and do not have public support. They need a super power in the form of British in old times or United States currently to artificially grant them political legitimacy.
 
Combine with other efforts on the ground. i.e Al Nusra and friends. What happened to the whole country is against Assad? They have destroyed an entire country and found only a handful of people? One year they find 70 odd people that pass their "vetting" process, out of which just 5 or 6 remain. The rest could very well be fighting without having the american stooges imprint in an environment which has been reduced to a sectarian war OR they could very well be in a boat heading to Merkels Germany with a little piece of that $500 million. Not something to be proud of. Now when Nusra gets bombed they somehow have a problem with that. Have they forgotten who bombed those twin towers?

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Syria seems to be the repeat of American terrorist financing in Nicargua

 
Combine with other efforts on the ground. i.e Al Nusra and friends. What happened to the whole country is against Assad? They have destroyed an entire country and found only a handful of people? One year they find 70 odd people that pass their "vetting" process, out of which just 5 or 6 remain. The rest could very well be fighting without having the american stooges imprint in an environment which has been reduced to a sectarian war OR they could very well be in a boat heading to Merkels Germany with a little piece of that $500 million. Not something to be proud of. Now when Nusra gets bombed they somehow have a problem with that. Have they forgotten who bombed those twin towers?


It is Afghanistan all over again. US is supporting Mujahedin to hurt its geostrategic enemies.
 
It is Afghanistan all over again. US is supporting Mujahedin to hurt its geostrategic enemies.

Whatever it is. It is working for them. I do appreciate the fact that all the sectarian striff is in these other countries that they poke around in and they only have to deal with the straggling insane people with guns out of the blue. They are still racing formula one cars and having a decent life while the rest of us are on here talking about how a shia is killing our people.
 
that confused me.



which shia and which "our people" is he killing??

Since I consider Shias as muslims let me explain how our own muslims are busy killing our own muslims in the hunderds of thousands worldwide while the US are furious over some insane person killing 12 innocent school kids and taking precautionary measures of going against the gun lobby so that things like this that happen every year stop happening. What are the brown people doing instead? they are arming each other with the same western weapons that they accuse each other of being in cahoots with. It is just sickening how stupid some of these comments on this forum itself are. The amount of ignorance is just unbearable.
 

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