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WASHINGTON (AP) — The Obama administration said Thursday that a proposed Russian sale of fighter jets to Iran would violate a U.N. arms embargo on Tehran, setting up another standoff related to last year's nuclear negotiations.


State Department spokesman Mark Toner said transferring the Sukhoi-30 jets, comparable to American F-15E fighter bombers, requires the U.N. Security Council's approval.

The U.S will raise the matter with Russia, Toner said, adding that all six countries that negotiated July's landmark nuclear agreement with Iran "should be fully aware of these restrictions." The deal kept the arms ban on Iran in place for up to another five years.

Iran's defense minister said last week that the Islamic Republic would purchase an unspecified number of the Russian planes. Gen. Hossein Dehghan provided no timeline for delivery, but said Iran would be involved in producing the aircraft.

The dispute is the latest linked to the nuclear negotiations that ended last July in a deal setting long-term limits on Iran's uranium and plutonium programs in exchange for hundreds of billions of dollars in future sanctions relief.

The U.S. and its negotiating partners — Britain, China, France, Germany and Russia — reached an understanding with Iran to phase out U.N. bans on Iranian weapons deals and ballistic missiles work after periods of good behavior.

Both embargoes are still in effect, though U.S. officials say Iran has conducted at least two ballistic missile tests since last summer. In response, Washington imposed new sanctions on Iran just hours after five American citizens left Iran as part of a prisoner exchange last month.

Like the ballistic missiles work, U.S. officials say the Russian plane sale wouldn't constitute a nuclear deal breach. But it would amount to another in a long string of Iranian transgressions of U.N. Security Council resolutions.

Toner said the Sukhoi qualifies as "combat aircraft" under the U.N. register of conventional arms. Sales of these to Iran require the Security Council's approval "in advance on a case-by-case basis," he said.

Iran regained access to tens of billions of dollars in frozen assets overseas when it satisfied its obligations under the nuclear deal last month.

Iran's rivals in the Middle East are worried by the windfall. Shiite Iran is battling the Saudi Arabia and other Sunni countries in proxy conflicts in Syria and Yemen, and Israel is threatened by Tehran's support for militant groups Hamas and Hezbollah.

Dehghan said Iran would seriously focus on its "air force and fighters," a fleet the still heavily depends on domestically modified versions of long-outdated warplanes, including former Soviet MiGs and American F14A Tomcats from the 1970s.

The U.S. also is concerned by Russia's delivery of advanced S-300 air defense missile systems to Iran. That deal was frozen in 2010, but Russian President Vladimir Putin approved its transfer last April. Unlike the fighter jets, however, the S-300 is defensive and not covered by any U.N. prohibition.
 
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Not if they build the manufacturing facilities in iran , it's like the world powers helping iran to achieve peaceful nuclear energy , only russia is helping iran to build a outdated fighter jet
 
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Russians don't want to sell us these plans ... they just find an free opportunity to use Iran name for advertise their aircraft ....
 
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Russians don't want to sell us these plans ... they just find an free opportunity to use Iran name for advertise their aircraft ....

true that , but since the nuclear talks iran has made lots of reputations around the world , even in russia , russians have gotten a lot more friendlier with iran , the average iranian joe thinks ahedinijad did some Uber thing with his sanction circumvention but it was the Rouhani government and his tim that did the actual of work , of you know what
 
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true that , but since the nuclear talks iran has made lots of reputations around the world , even in russia , russians have gotten a lot more friendlier with iran , the average iranian joe thinks ahedinijad did some Uber thing with his sanction circumvention but it was the Rouhani government and his tim that did the actual of work , of you know what

Russians weren't our friend , and so they couldn't be "friendlier" with us ... Rouhani government was on shopping spree and everyone would sell those none critical device to him ... but when it come to critical systems , nothing is changed ...
 
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Russians weren't our friend , and so they couldn't be "friendlier" with us ... Rouhani government was on shopping spree and everyone would sell those none critical device to him ... but when it come to critical systems , nothing is changed ...

well , friend , i wouldn't necessarily call it a shopping spree , do you think he could have bought apaches and eurocopters on his trip to italy and france ? i don't think so , the europeans and american simply "Havale" us to the russians for arms sale , we are being played
 
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Russians don't want to sell us these plans ... they just find an free opportunity to use Iran name for advertise their aircraft ....

Truly a ignorant statement. Russia has no shortage of sukhoi customers, Malaysia, Vietnam, India, China, ect. I am not sure how Iran can help "advertise" one of the most successful aircraft in the world.
 
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how about stationing of few sukhois by friendly country will the sanctions are lifted ,Iranian pilots can train and by then the sanction will be lifted completely and they can buy or build those. for that you don't have to spend much as well.
 
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Not if they build the manufacturing facilities in iran , it's like the world powers helping iran to achieve peaceful nuclear energy , only russia is helping iran to build a outdated fighter jet


Were you the same person that called the SU-30 'small'? Calling the SU-30 "outdated" is on the same level of stupidity as calling it small. The SU-30SM and other variants over the latest avionics, the SU-30 airframe itself was designed as ecently as the 1990s, compared to many rivals that is new. In terms of range, payload, and maneuverability the SU-30 does not have many rivals.

The SU-30 does everything well were as other aircraft may have great maneuverability but poor range and payload or visa versa, great payload and range but poor maneuverability. The SU-30 is also very flexible, It can perform every mission, wether that be air-to-air, air-to-ground, maritime strike, etc.
 
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Were you the same person that called the SU-30 'small'? Calling the SU-30 "outdated" is on the same level of stupidity as calling it small. The SU-30SM and other variants over the latest avionics, the SU-30 airframe itself was designed as ecently as the 1990s, compared to many rivals that is new. In terms of range, payload, and maneuverability the SU-30 does not have many rivals.

The SU-30 does everything well were as other aircraft may have great maneuverability but poor range and payload or visa versa, great payload and range but poor maneuverability. The SU-30 is also very flexible, It can perform every mission, wether that be air-to-air, air-to-ground, maritime strike, etc.

That's actually what i intended to say , if the russians are to build the manufacturing facilities in iran , then iran must have mastered the avionics and the airframes before , like well before
 
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Offensive weapons ban on Iran is in place for up to another five years. But No problem at all. It takes 5 years from negotiating ,producing , training to finally getting the planes . Buying Jet fighters is not buying nut !
 
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well i must admit i'm a fan of the mig-25 foxbat family they can carry the dual purpose iranian missiles better
Truly a ignorant statement. Russia has no shortage of sukhoi customers, Malaysia, Vietnam, India, China, ect. I am not sure how Iran can help "advertise" one of the most successful aircraft in the world.

not entirely ignorant , russians are under the spell of western media and frenzy against iran , or they act like they are , so selling sukhois to a country like malaysia has got nothing to do with iran
 
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Truly a ignorant statement. Russia has no shortage of sukhoi customers, Malaysia, Vietnam, India, China, ect. I am not sure how Iran can help "advertise" one of the most successful aircraft in the world.

You really don't know the point of Advertising ....
1- keep your current customers
2- fine new customers
3- sell more
4- keep your share from markets ...

Today lockhead Martin said that they already to give production line of F16 to India ... They simply want to take India market for themselves ...
 
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well i must admit i'm a fan of the mig-25 foxbat family they can carry the dual purpose iranian missiles better


not entirely ignorant , russians are under the spell of western media and frenzy against iran , or they act like they are , so selling sukhois to a country like malaysia has got nothing to do with iran
Orders for the aircraft Su-30cm Factory Irkut now for 5 years.
Su-35s at this point, a 3-year orders. Given that the increase Russian Air order Su-35С aircraft to 80, then for 5 years already.

Why Sukhoi stupid PR? They do not have problems with money.
In Iran the conflict between the military industrial complex and the army leadership. Army wants new tanks. Therefore, the head of the land forces asked to buy the T-90.
Air Force wants the new planes, so ask for the Su-30.
Iran Industry can not yet give the weapons for adequate strength.
Russia produces 100 combat aircraft per year. Iran's order can not be some sort of serious business.

You what that a dimwitted clown. Who says nonsense.
 
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