US retailers looking past China for suppliers see costs jump 30%

[Hamartia Antidote]

You are probably right

Tesla China Design Center will reportedly land in Beijing

Tesla China’s Design Center will reportedly land in the capital of the country, Beijing, according to government documents and The Wall Street Journal. In 2020, Tesla said it would build a Design Center in China that would be responsible for creating “International EVs.” Tesla began hiring for...

www.teslarati.com

yep, the Chinese will probably be instrumental in designing a very tiny car for developing markets.

 

[beijingwalker]

yep, the Chinese will probably be instrumental in designing a very tiny car for developing markets.

No one knows, you have to ask elon musk.

Tesla's Transformation Into A Chinese Company Seems Unstoppable​

Tesla's Transformation Into A Chinese Company Seems Unstoppable (NASDAQ:TSLA)

What Tesla story does everyone – the analysts, the journalists, the investors – have completely backwards? The Tesla in China story.

seekingalpha.com

Keep in mind BYD was the one back in 2009 that said they will be the first company to bring a family passenger 100% EV car to the world market...this is back before Tesla was even a public company. They even said they would be opening a factory in North America to make it.

Don't know about that, but someone did brag some years ago

China’s BYD was written off by Elon Musk. Now it’s beating Tesla

Shenzhen-based electric carmaker sold more than 641,000 vehicles in the first half of 2022.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Tesla is not gaining in China, it's losing in China

The Tesla Model Y is a formidable presence in China's SUV segment - DRAGONINKHOUSE

As it turns out, Elon Musk was not kidding when he stated that the Tesla Model Y could be the world's best-selling vehicle, period. Despite its premium price

dragoninkhouse.com

The Tesla Model Y is a formidable presence in China’s SUV segment​

As it turns out, Elon Musk was not kidding when he stated that the Tesla Model Y could be the world’s best-selling vehicle, period. Despite its premium price and its lack of traditional luxury amenities, the all-electric crossover continues to make an impact in several key areas, including China, the world’s largest electric vehicle market.

As per data released by the China Passenger Car Association (CPCA), the Tesla Model Y actually kept its crown as China’s SUV king in September 2022. The electric vehicle maker sold 46,694 Model Y to the domestic market last month, beating rivals from both local and foreign automakers.

This is a remarkable accomplishment, especially since China is being saturated by a strong stream of legitimate EVs. Among the most notable of these are homegrown premium electric cars that are also extremely tech-focused, such as the NIO ES6.

The Tesla Model Y did not only make an impact in China’s automotive segment in September, however. As per the CPCA’s year-to-date data, the Model Y is also dominating in the country’s premium SUV rankings, or SUVs that start at more than 300,000 yuan.

As per the CPCA’s numbers, the Model Y saw a 135.8% year-over-year increase in China for Q1-Q3, selling 219,112 units from January to September. For context, Tesla China sold 92,933 Model Y during the same period last year. Even the Model 3, the Model Y’s sedan sibling, ranked fourth on the CPCA’s list for new energy sedans in September 2022.

Expectations are high that Tesla China and Giga Shanghai’s output will be even more substantial this Q4 2022. This was hinted at in previous reports, which suggested that Giga Shanghai would be producing about 20,500 vehicles per week in the fourth quarter. With this pace, Tesla China could contribute around 266,500 cars to the company’s overall output this Q4.

The Tesla Model Y is becoming a formidable presence in China’s SUV segment

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So last year the Tesla Model 3 and Tesla Model Y took the #2 and #3 slots in total BEV model sales in China. You expecting them to both to fall out of the top 5 or something?

 

[beijingwalker]

The Tesla Model Y is a formidable presence in China's SUV segment - DRAGONINKHOUSE

As it turns out, Elon Musk was not kidding when he stated that the Tesla Model Y could be the world's best-selling vehicle, period. Despite its premium price

dragoninkhouse.com

The Tesla Model Y is a formidable presence in China’s SUV segment​

As it turns out, Elon Musk was not kidding when he stated that the Tesla Model Y could be the world’s best-selling vehicle, period. Despite its premium price and its lack of traditional luxury amenities, the all-electric crossover continues to make an impact in several key areas, including China, the world’s largest electric vehicle market.

As per data released by the China Passenger Car Association (CPCA), the Tesla Model Y actually kept its crown as China’s SUV king in September 2022. The electric vehicle maker sold 46,694 Model Y to the domestic market last month, beating rivals from both local and foreign automakers.

This is a remarkable accomplishment, especially since China is being saturated by a strong stream of legitimate EVs. Among the most notable of these are homegrown premium electric cars that are also extremely tech-focused, such as the NIO ES6.

The Tesla Model Y did not only make an impact in China’s automotive segment in September, however. As per the CPCA’s year-to-date data, the Model Y is also dominating in the country’s premium SUV rankings, or SUVs that start at more than 300,000 yuan.

As per the CPCA’s numbers, the Model Y saw a 135.8% year-over-year increase in China for Q1-Q3, selling 219,112 units from January to September. For context, Tesla China sold 92,933 Model Y during the same period last year. Even the Model 3, the Model Y’s sedan sibling, ranked fourth on the CPCA’s list for new energy sedans in September 2022.

Expectations are high that Tesla China and Giga Shanghai’s output will be even more substantial this Q4 2022. This was hinted at in previous reports, which suggested that Giga Shanghai would be producing about 20,500 vehicles per week in the fourth quarter. With this pace, Tesla China could contribute around 266,500 cars to the company’s overall output this Q4.

The Tesla Model Y is becoming a formidable presence in China’s SUV segment

Tesla is designed to be a high end car, so what surprises you on it? but overall sales Tesla is losing in China, besides, Tesla is almost a Chinese company anyway.

China’s BYD beats Tesla in global EV sales​

https://www.financialexpress.com/express-mobility/vehicles/electric-vehicles/chinas-byd-beats-tesla-in-global-ev-sales/2585973/

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Tesla's Transformation Into A Chinese Company Seems Unstoppable​

Tesla's Transformation Into A Chinese Company Seems Unstoppable (NASDAQ:TSLA)

What Tesla story does everyone – the analysts, the journalists, the investors – have completely backwards? The Tesla in China story.

seekingalpha.com

LOL!
Ah yes one of those Doom and Gloom articles from 2020 saying Tesla will close their production lines in the US and switch to exporting all their cars from China...thus becoming basically a Chinese company.

However that is not what happened. Instead Tesla has built a 3rd factory in Austin Texas and a 4th in Berlin Germany.

Nice try in trying to give China the usual undo credit.

 

[beijingwalker]

LOL!
Ah yes one of those Doom and Gloom articles from 2020 saying Tesla will close their production lines in the US and switch to exporting all their cars from China...thus becoming basically a Chinese company.

Really, you sound like I said that, this is so funny, I only said that BYD progresses in leaps and bounds and Tesla is more and more like a Chinese company, don't put other people's words into my mouth.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Tesla is designed to be a high end car, so what surprises you on it? but overall sales Tesla is losing in China, besides, Tesla is almost a Chinese company anyway.

China’s BYD beats Tesla in global EV sales​

https://www.financialexpress.com/express-mobility/vehicles/electric-vehicles/chinas-byd-beats-tesla-in-global-ev-sales/2585973/

Lol! It is BYD that is faltering. Remember they were the ones touting they were going to conquer the world with a 100% EV passenger car...but they couldn't do it. In fact they have had to move from 100% batteries to hybrids PHEVs due to limited success of their BEVs.

So after 13 years they are still behind Tesla. The only thing putting them ahead is since their 100% EV's are not highly wanted is that their PHEV's have been successful...saving their face from complete shame.

BYD (a battery company) has had to move into the gas/electric hybrid market...and even with that they are barely ahead!

If Tesla beats them at the end of 2022 BYD should hang their heads in DOUBLE shame!

 

[beijingwalker]

Lol! It is BYD that is faltering.

Are you for real? did you check out the latest data?

Global EV Sales up 61% in Q2 2022; BYD Leads Market​

AUGUST 29, 2022

Counterpoint

www.counterpointresearch.com

 

[MajesticPug]

In other words the original shining example you proudly posted suddenly doesn't fit your alleged narrative so now you are desperately searching for an example that can.

You must have had some bad English teachers incapable of teaching you how to read. I feel sorry for you but it's not too late to enroll yourself in basic reading and critical thinking skills.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

You must have had some bad English teachers incapable of teaching you how to read. I feel sorry for you but it's not too late to enroll yourself in basic reading and critical thinking skills.

I fell sorry for you too...since you have yet to show any examples of your hyperbole accusations being true...but that is pretty typical of the Chinese on here...

You quickly throw an example..and then back off of it...just a glaring defect in your basic thinking skills...which is not surprising either.

 

[MajesticPug]

I fell sorry for you too...since you have yet to show any examples of your hyperbole accusations being true...but that is pretty typical of the Chinese on here...

You quickly throw an example..and then back off of it...just a glaring defect in your basic thinking skills...which is not surprising either.

Typical racist comment from an American of foreign (India or ME) descent. Read my posts and learn. Enroll yourself in basic reading and argumentative logic courses.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Typical racist comment from an American of foreign (India or ME) descent. Read my posts and learn. Enroll yourself in basic reading and argumentative logic courses.

LOL! Well considering I'm not even Asian...you just outed yourself as one who harbors deep default racist stereotypes about people of ME or Indian descent. Good job!

The more you open your mouth the more the truth comes out...plus I'm not the one with the basic reading comprehension problem since you can't even read the writing below this post.