Us renews sanction against iran

[BD_India_friend]

Iran deeply cares about Palestinian Shias and have support in the Levant from Assad and Hezbollah. IRGC was deeply perturbed when Israel invaded southern Lebanon to ward off threats from Hezbollah and other pro-Palestinian Shia outfits.

It is widely believed that Israel has nuclear weapons and has been developing them with the help of cia to retain the occupied Palestinian territories. Jerusalem has some of our holiest sites and its imperative on every Muslim to protect it.

There is high possibility of Israel using nuclear weapons in case of future wars in the levant which will decimate the local arab population which has large no of shias. Iran has been trying to develop nuclear weapons to deter Israel from exercising the nuclear option in the future. But western nations are as expected biased and "skeptical" about Iran's nuclear ambitions due to Saudi reservations. The sactions are nothing new. Iran will keep on developing nuclear weapons to counter Israel's growing influence in the region. Russia is there in the picture too and will play an important role in Iran's nuclear plans.

 

[Jugger]

Tell me when they attacked a neighbour in the last 100 years? Try not to buy into bullshat media headlines. Rhetoric is one thing reality another.

They might not have invaded another country but the global confidence on Iranian leadership is very low. Israel and KSA will not tolerate a nuclear Iran.
So at present situation it will be counter productive for Iran to go nuclear.

Kindly also answer following questions...
Why does Iran require N Weapons?
Does it have existential threat from any country?
Does Iran pose existential threat to another country?

 

[Indus Pakistan]

They might not have invaded another country but the global confidence on Iranian leadership is very low.

That is like a guy who has never hurt nobody, never attacked anybody but has been beaten up by others but others claiming lack of confidence in him. Could it be just global politics?

Why does Iran require N Weapons?

Same reason as India, Pakistan and the rest. Want a answer? Go ask them.

Does it have existential threat from any country?

Besides US threatening everything under the heavens and KSA cooking up all sort of mischievous plans and a history of previous attack by Iraq - No!

Does Iran pose existential threat to another country?

Well any jacka*ss can claim they are scared but if we go by facts (which is why I asked you who has Iran attacked in last 100 years) and history - No!

 

[darksider]

Go nuclear Iran, you have right to defend yourself against israel, make sure Dr.Abdul Qadir khan's knowledge is utilized..

And but no right to interfere in other countries.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

What the sectarian 'tards and disciples of KSA don't understand is Iran is Pakistan's neighbour. It's prosperity is Pakistan's prosperity in the long run. If Iran felt secure it would engage as a confident nation state - Pakistan could buy gas in huge quantaties and since it is next door it would be cheapest energy import easily. In addition a huge market would be good for Pakistan. It's like how UK, France and Germany were at each others throats but today are like peas in a pod. And they killed millions of each other but moved forward to age of cooperation, trade and mutual security.

 

[darksider]

Why? I support 100% Iran getting the gawd damned nukes .... ! Bring some bloody security in the region.

I always admire your posts but on matter of iran i have opposite view.

It will more destabilise the region.they will stop for nothing and after yaman their next target will Bahrain and saudia all gcc.
And down with america is prove big lie.they help and got help America in iraq to get a shia gov.
They saw everything with an eye of shia not above from it.

 

[Aryzin]

I'm no fan of Mullahs but it is a fact that the Iranians have not invaded another country in centuries, they have however been invaded multiple times and been victims of CBRN attacks. If you would just research the matter you would see that they would be foolish to not pursue nuclear capabilities. Look at all their neighborhood. Whether they do or don't, Saudis would want to kill them because they are not the right type of Muslims or are not Arabs. Pakistan has nukes and so does India , the other side they have Iraq with which they fought a war after Iraq invaded them. In that war they pretty much had to fight against all countries in the region and their allies. Iran has Afghanistan on its border with huge unstable situation. Turkey and Azerbaijan both adversaries /not friendsThen you have us telling them we are going to bomb and change their government. So is Israel. If I were iran, I would have got nukes long ago.

 

[darksider]

Iranian leaders sometimes give statements like wiping a country from the face of the world. Is that a positive constructive statement to give?
Iran is run by ideology and such governments are prone to make emotional decisions.
A nuclear Iran with ideological regime is not good for world peace.

First time i am agreeing with an india. Oh god.
Nuclear iran is dangerous for all unti they have this extremists siting on top.
And i read the kapptan post they never attack on any country.
They will not attack directly.iran know it will give chance to others lso to attack on iran.
So they use proxies insurgency and militia in other countries.
Two big examples we saw are iraq where they help America with militia and syria they are helping asad with with regular forces and militia even people recruiting from other countries like Pakistan.
They are saving asad because he is shia and help removing sadam because he is sunni.
They are playing same game in whole region yaman Bahrain where they are getting chance.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

And down with america is prove big lie.they help and got help America in iraq to get a shia gov.

I know, big lie like when US shot down a Iranian passenger jet killing all on board. Not to worry this was just a Bollywood Movie ! Mind you 273 people died in this movie. Don't worry they were just pretending.

Link > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

 

[darksider]

I know, big lie like when US shot down a Iranian passenger jet killing all on board. Not to worry this was just a Bollywood Movie ! Mind you 273 people died in this movie. Don't worry they were just pretending.

Did iran shot down any thing in return?
Down with America is just slogan to feed its people to make them believe only extremist gov can save them from America.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Did iran shot down any thing in return?

Did Pakistan return anything when American's killed Pak soldier at Angoor Adda? Did Pakistan return anything when America uses drones inside Pakistan? Did Pakistan do anything when they attacked near Abottabad?


USA is superpower ....

 

[darksider]

did Pakistan ever say down with America?
Pakistan never shows itself as hard-core enemy of America like Iran.

 

[PeaceGen]

It would. Iran is not a expansionist state. The previous century of history proves it. It is not like the region does not have nukes - Pakistan next door has them already and Israel down the road also has them. What nukes would do is secure Iran's paranoid fear of insecurity which when looked at from Tehran's perspective looks like half the world is out to get you. The experiance of Iraq has reinforced the fear of weak state that they are prone to invasion causing disasterous fractures with non stop bleeding like we see in that country, Therefore nukes would assuage Tehrans fears and actually contribute to security and stability in the region.

It would bring that country out of the seige mentality it has afflicted on itself because of it's history of abuse and make it a important player in the region.

Iran may not be expansionistic in a sense that they want to conquer and annex land, but they *are* expansionistic when it comes to 'holding influence outside their own borders', and i am convinced the Iranians will on occasion support groups who want to overthrow a government or start a country right where Israel sits now (the Palestinians who want to drive all Israelis into the sea)..

I have made the case many times, on this forum and towards that email list of mine that i sometimes email tips to..
I have made the case that Iran *would* let a terror group get hold of nuclear partially enriched material or even a crude nuclear bomb (made by those nuclear centrifuges that Iran would like us to believe are for creating medical isotopes domestically in Iran) produced by Iran.

Iran also has a space program while it is so much better off focussing it's intellectuals and great thinkers on solar power and other forms of safe renewable energy..
A space program is in effect also an ICBM program.
Space program + medical isotopes nuclear centrigues = nuclear weapons program, fortunately poorly hidden.

I will rest my case here and not be too convincing in this first round of disagreement between us, Kaptaan.
But i can and will back up my stance of not allowing Iran a nuclear weapons program. The only reason i dont do so completely right now, is to save face (prevent ego damage) where-ever it can be saved.

 

[Shankranthi]

1) This is an open forum, anyone with enough knowledge about a subject can answer any post.. hope you got it!
2) If Iran's interests are conflicting with the US and Usraeli ones, that is for you, they are going against their interests? You seem to have very limited knowledge about interests, history and geostrategy. you need to learn more, so you won't be asking non-sense questions like these.. no offense intended..

I assume you are replying to me.

1. No offence is taken especially since you did not even have enough courage or Integrity to tag me in your reply

2. Anyone can express their opinion, ONLY I AM NOT INTERESTED in the opinion of a non Iranian. So don't bother sharing it with me.

3. Iran has been under trade embargo and the threat to its national interest continues. So the compromise on its national interest is rather obvious even to people with half a brain. If its not obvious to you, then maybe you might consider growing a brain ?

 

[Clutch]

Iranian leaders sometimes give statements like wiping a country from the face of the world. Is that a positive constructive statement to give?
Iran is run by ideology and such governments are prone to make emotional decisions.
A nuclear Iran with ideological regime is not good for world peace.

Isn't you Modi wrapping his Dhoti around the Irani?

Seems like the Indian chabahar wet dreams may be coming to an premature demise?