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have you seen farenheit 911

plz read
Journalist Ahmed Rashid, a long-time expert on Pakistan and Afghanistan, will later write in a book about the Taliban that the US supported the Taliban in its early years. “Between 1994 and 1996, the USA supported the Taliban politically through its allies Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, essentially because Washington viewed the Taliban as anti-Iranian, anti-Shia, and pro-Western. Between 1995 and 1997, US support was even more driven because of its backing for the Unocal [pipeline] project.” He notes that many US diplomats “saw them as messianic do-gooders—like born-again Christians from the American Bible Belt.” [Dreyfuss, 2005, pp. 326] Selig Harrison, a long-time regional expert with extensive CIA ties, will later say that he complained at the time about how Pakistani ISI support of the Taliban was backed by the CIA. “I warned them that we were creating a monster.” [Times of India, 3/7/2001] There is evidence the CIA may have helped supply the Taliban with weapons during the first months of their rise to power (see October 1994).


The Associated Press will later report that the Enron corporation bribes Taliban officials as part of a “no-holds-barred bid to strike a deal for an energy pipeline in Afghanistan.” Atul Davda, a senior director for Enron’s International Division, will later claim, “Enron had intimate contact with Taliban officials.” Presumably this effort began around 1996, when a power plant Enron was building in India ran into trouble and Enron began an attempt to supply it with natural gas via a planned pipeline through Afghanistan (see 1995-November 2001 and June 24, 1996). In 1997, Enron executives privately meet with Taliban officials in Texas (see December 4, 1997). They are “given the red-carpet treatment and promised a fortune if the deal [goes] through.” It is alleged Enron secretly employs CIA agents to carry out its dealings overseas. According to a CIA source, “Enron proposed to pay the Taliban large sums of money in a ‘tax’ on every cubic foot of gas and oil shipped through a pipeline they planned to build.” This source claims Enron paid more than $400 million for a feasibility study on the pipeline and “a large portion of that cost was pay-offs to the Taliban.” Enron continues to encourage the Taliban about the pipeline even after Unocal officially gives up on the pipeline in the wake of the African embassy bombings (see December 5, 1998). An investigation after Enron’s collapse in 2001 (see December 2, 2001) will determine that some of this pay-off


Representatives of the Taliban are invited guests to the Texas headquarters of Unocal to negotiate their support for the pipeline. Future President George W. Bush is Governor of Texas at the time. The Taliban appear to agree to a $2 billion pipeline deal, but will do the deal only if the US officially recognizes the Taliban regime. The Taliban meet with US officials. According to the Daily Telegraph, “the US government, which in the past has branded the Taliban’s policies against women and children ‘despicable,’ appears anxious to please the fundamentalists to clinch the lucrative pipeline contract.” A BBC regional correspondent says that “the proposal to build a pipeline across Afghanistan is part of an international scramble to profit from developing the rich energy resources of the Caspian Sea.” [BBC, 12/4/1997; Daily Telegraph, 12/14/1997] It has been claimed that the Taliban meet with Enron officials while in Texas (see 1996-September 11, 2001). Enron, headquartered in Texas, has an large financial interest in the pipeline at the time (see June 24, 1996). The Taliban also visit Thomas Gouttierre, an academic at the University of Nebraska, who is a consultant for Unocal and also has been paid by the CIA for his work in Afghanistan (see 1984-1994 and December 1997). Gouttierre takes them on a visit to Mt. Rushmore



i can keep on quoteing sourses which proves taliban were supported by US

if you want more i can provide more references
 
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have you seen farenheit 911

plz read










i can keep on quoteing sourses which proves taliban were supported by US

if you want more i can provide more references

If that is so then why does US scolds Pakistan openly in front of international media on ISI-Taliban links and why Pakistani President doesn't even say a single word !!!! :azn: If ISI doesn't have any links with Taliban then Pakistan should take strong stand. Your president should speak strong words with US. ISI is an intelligence agency of Pakistani government and these US allegations should be turned down strongly. Why doesn't Pakistani Government respond to these allegations????? Why does Pakistani government and president don't try to defend the country and its image in front of inter nation media and in front of US senators who ask these questions about ISI-Taliban links?????:hitwall:
 
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If that is so then why does US scolds Pakistan openly in front of international media on ISI-Taliban links and Pakistani President doesn't even say a single word !!!! :azn: If ISI doesn't have any links with Taliban then Pakistan should take strong stand. Your president should speak strong words with US. ISI is an intelligence agency of Pakistani government and these US allegations should be turned down strongly. Why doesn't Pakistani Government respond to these allegations????? Why does Pakistani government and president don't try to defend the country and its image in front of inter nation media and in front of US senators who ask these questions about ISI-Taliban links?????:hitwall:

its very painfull for me to admit our strategic elite is US slave
they have no guts to stand up for their country if they feel US will get offended

do you know Allama Muhammad Iqbal?

he said
TU JHUKA JO GHAIR KAY AGAY NA TUN TERA NA MAUN:angry:
 
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if ISI is maintainin contacts with afghan talibans then there is nothing wrong with that. apprently thats wat the agencies do, dont they?? and those talibans who were created (or wateva u wanna say) by ISI are not causing any harm to pakistan. these TTP ppl had to do nothing with ISI. ISI is doing wats best for our country and american demands dont take priority when it comes to national security
 
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if ISI is maintainin contacts with afghan talibans then there is nothing wrong with that. apprently thats wat the agencies do, dont they?? and those talibans who were created (or wateva u wanna say) by ISI are not causing any harm to pakistan. these TTP ppl had to do nothing with ISI. ISI is doing wats best for our country and american demands dont take priority when it comes to national security

So is it fine when they cause harm to Indian, Afghani or other citizens? Is everything alright as long as Pakistan does not suffer?

And ISI maintains contacts & supports terrorist outfits like JeM, LeT etc. ISI maintains contacts with Afghan taliban. US is questioning ISI links to Pakistan Taliban. See what senator Lugar had to say, one of the two senators who are drafting your famous aid bill. What does this turn ISI into? A patriotic & nationalist agency? If yes, Pakistan uses terrorism as a tool of the state policy.
 
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So is it fine when they cause harm to Indian, Afghani or other citizens? Is everything alright as long as Pakistan does not suffer?

And ISI maintains contacts & supports terrorist outfits like JeM, LeT etc. ISI maintains contacts with Afghan taliban. US is questioning ISI links to Pakistan Taliban. See what senator Lugar had to say, one of the two senators who are drafting your famous aid bill. What does this turn ISI into? A patriotic & nationalist agency? If yes, Pakistan uses terrorism as a tool of the state policy.

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...Policy of regional imperialism has always been a driving force in formulation of Indian foreign policy since its independence
RAW (Research and analysis wing), the main intelligence and sabotage agency of India was ordered by Indra’s government to train and equip Tamil terrorists. The “Third agency of RAW,” a supra intelligence out fit started training Tamil insurgents in 32 training camps. By mid 1987, 20,000 insurgents had been trained and were provided weapons by central government of India and state government of Tamil Nadu. While most of the initial training was confined to military and paramilitary camps in utter Perdeash, specialized training was given in special training camps in New Delhi, Momby, and Vishakhapatnam[xxvi]. The most enigmatic training was given to insurgents in Dera Dun along with Bengali, Pakistani and Tibetan rebels.....(Thomas A. Marks, Maoist insurgency since Vietnam, Frank Cass and company limited London.1996, P.220)


so when will you grow up

now you will deny the quote :coffee:
मुझे नफरत है भारत और भारतीयों.
 
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so when will you grow up

now you will deny the quote :coffee:
मुझे नफरत है भारत और भारतीयों.

Why derail the thread everytime by bragging about what RAW did 22 years ago? We learnt from our mistakes & have grown up. When will you? Still wonder why you are such a mess today?
 
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Why derail the thread everytime by bragging about what RAW did 22 years ago? We learnt from our mistakes & have grown up. When will you? Still wonder why you are such a mess today?

we can see that in Balochistan and FATA

come on dont be hypocrate:cheers:
 
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So is it fine when they cause harm to Indian, Afghani or other citizens? Is everything alright as long as Pakistan does not suffer?

And ISI maintains contacts & supports terrorist outfits like JeM, LeT etc. ISI maintains contacts with Afghan taliban. US is questioning ISI links to Pakistan Taliban. See what senator Lugar had to say, one of the two senators who are drafting your famous aid bill. What does this turn ISI into? A patriotic & nationalist agency? If yes, Pakistan uses terrorism as a tool of the state policy.

lets keep it simple...

afghan taliban: i still fail to understand y did US attacked afghanistan when they were already willin to handover OBL given US provides evidence. to me they are only defending their country and therefore i dont support american cause in afghanistan. however this doesnt mean i agree with the ideology of afghan talibans

LeT etc: this is bw india and pakistan. both the countries have used proxies against each other. u cant simply blame ISI.

do i support use of proxies?? no i dont.

Do i support pak helpin kashmiri freedom fighters?? yes i do coz even according to UN, kashmiri freedom fighters are not millitants. now u will say LeT is a millitant group. yes it is but not bec of its struggle in kashmir.

summary: i wouldnt want ISI to aid groups in killin civillains but i would lik ISI to help or atleast not harm those groups on whom war has been imposed...
 
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this is 70th post I guess, where I am bluntly telling that Pakistan is distinguishing between Good and Bad Taliban.
 
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