What's new

US Politics

Trump will simple decimate Hillary in the polls.
Rest all is CNN - Clinton News Network fake propaganda.
Trump did not have any problem with the polls when he was winning, but now he’s losing badly so he is coming up with all kinds of lame excuses.

And it’s not only CNN, but every poll is showing Trump is losing badly.

Huffpost is tracking almost 274 polls from 40 pollsters since last year. Check this link out and see for yourself.



Currently tracking 274 polls from 40 pollsters


pollster-2016-general-election-trump-vs-clinton (1).png
 
.
Clinton related death count continues...

20160809_dncdead.jpg


Shawn Lucas- Sued DNC for rigging has died under mysterious circumstances.

http://heatst.com/politics/death-of-dnc-staffer-shawn-lucas-adds-to-seth-rich-conspiracy-theories/


And Julian Assange just revealed Seth Conrad Rich was his source for the DNC emails.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-...affer-was-email-leaker-offers-20k-reward-info

He worked for the Democratic National Committee. He was shot and killed as he walked home early Sunday in the Bloomingdale neighborhood of Northwest Washington, D.C.
 
Last edited:
.
Indeed! :lol:

"Hillary Clinton will say anything to get elected and change nothing" - Barak Obama




Bernie got cheated, everyone knows that.


This is the proof that America is still ruled by the WASP elites.

The myth that "the Zionist Jews rules over America" has been automatically debunked. Nor the US has any true love for Israel, but a pawn to serve for their own geopolitical interests in the Middle East.
 
Last edited:
.
Yes, that is the level of frustration I have with the same old republican-democrat bureaucrat clans.

US has to decide whether it wants to continue the same current slow decline or whether it can weather the turbulence from people that actually want to change its course drastically (Trump and to some degree Sanders).

They (Democrats) managed to successfully rig it against Sanders (hoping that they don't alienate all his supporters)....whereas Republicans could not do the same successfully against Trump (though they did try).

If you actually listen to Trump directly rather than what the crooked media feeds people, you will see that he is a lot better than Hillary.

Same goes for the polls, they are distorting the way they collect the data to try dissuade people that are leaning towards trump (but have not commited yet), people that are severely undercounted in the polling methods (given they are often written off as unlikely voters).

Its time the US has a non-politician at the helm. One that wants other countries to pay their dues in defense, reducing the burden on US and also pushing for better security and trade relations.....rather than continuing the excesses of welfare + taxation (democrats) and unneccessary expensive conflicts (traditional republicans like bush).
Dude, I have to come back to this as I am a little caught up in stuff today ...but....just wanted to say...

I have listened to Trump directly...the guy is entertaining and if that is what we want from the president of the most important country in the world then Trump is a great choice....but it is a more serious job than that.

What are his ideas? To build a wall with Mexico and make Mexicans pay for it? Even if that were possible why would you humiliate a neighbor like that?

To force allies to pay more to NATO?
...can you imagine what would happen if Japan re militarized ?

To make "terrific deals". ...why no details?

America is still the most healthy growing developed economy, only reason for relative decline is because other poorer countries are growing faster...surely that is a good thing for the world. Trump cannot stop growth in China or India whatever he does.

I believe he asked Kasich to be VP and said he could be "in charge of foreign and domestic policy"....what would Trump do? ...answer "make America great again!"

He asked his security advisors three times why if a country has nuclear weapons "why can't we use them if we have them". How can you trust the guy with the nuclear codes?

I don't think he himself expected to be the nominee. Now he's there he doesn't have a clue what to do!

I am tired of political correctness too...but this is not the way to go...at the least Americans deserve a president who can speak grammatical English!

Gotta go now...talk later ;)
 
.
To build a wall with Mexico and make Mexicans pay for it? Even if that were possible why would you humiliate a neighbor like that?

Same reason why we fence the border with Bangladesh. You either have a country or you don't. Open borders only work when you have equally developed populations.

To force allies to pay more to NATO?
...can you imagine what would happen if Japan re militarized ?

Its not forcing, its about making others pitch in their fair share. US pays something like 80 - 90% of NATO logistics...when it should be at most around 50%.

Japan is militarized enough, explain what you mean by "re-militarizing"?

To make "terrific deals". ...why no details?

You can read the details in the campaign website.

The speeches wont have much details, same goes for Hillary. There is only so much you can portray in general.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/us-china-trade-reform

His one main speech where he spelled out some details:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/full-transcript-trump-job-plan-speech-224891

America is still the most healthy growing developed economy, only reason for relative decline is because other poorer countries are growing faster...surely that is a good thing for the world.

Healthy growing? Even during the best growth years during the 90s, it was very top heavy growth (rich getting richer). Real median wage has stagnated since the Vietnam War ended....that is not healthy at all....the main reason being too much govt consumption/transfer in a country where the system naturally is made for free private enterprise to succeed.

The sheer economic inertia of the US carried it through this till about the year 2000...then the war on terror (esp iraq) was what set it over the edge into a slow decline into the abyss. Obama "change" turned out to be the same ole democrat version of a fiscal hole... more red tape, welfare, taxes and greater bureaucracy and govt control. This will continue under Clinton. No thanks.

Trump cannot stop growth in China or India whatever he does.

Where has he said he wants to stop them? He wants a fair deal in engaging both, especially China the serial currency manipulator.

I believe he asked Kasich to be VP and said he could be "in charge of foreign and domestic policy"....what would Trump do? ...answer "make America great again!"

Kasich is low energy and frankly annoying. I'm glad Trump went with the classy Pence.

He asked his security advisors three times why if a country has nuclear weapons "why can't we use them if we have them". How can you trust the guy with the nuclear codes?

Again it has been laundered, dry cleaned and laundered again by the media before it gets to you the concerned average joe.

The more serious question is can we trust the established criminal Clinton who set up a private server at her house just so she could prevent certain emails from ever coming under the RTI act to shield her dubious activities with regards to the Clinton foundation (I urge you to investigate all of these independently and without bias).
 
.
Full Event: Donald Trump Rally in Kissimmee, Florida

 
.
Few f them are trying hard to rig trump and his campaign.
But he will have the last laugh.
 
.
Battleground states bloodbath, Hillary not only leads Trump in all battleground states, but is even threatening to turn red states like Arizona and Georgia into blue states. :enjoy:

n-DONALD-TRUMP-HILLARY-CLINTON-628x314.jpg




....................................Hillary...vs..Trump

Colorado, .....................45.2..................34.8

Florida,..........................45.4……….......40.6

Iowa,..............................40.8……………40.2

Michigan,.......................42.6……….......33.8

Nevada,.........................44……………....42

New Hampshire,........... 43…..................39.2

North Carolina,..............44.4…................40.4

Ohio,..............................43.8……… ........41.8

Pennsylvania,................48.2…….............39.2

Virginia,.........................44.4……..............37.4

Wisconsin,.....................45.6….................36.6

1. Source
2. Source
 
.
Same reason why we fence the border with Bangladesh. You either have a country or you don't. Open borders only work when you have equally developed populations.

Net immigration from Mexico is ZERO.

Of course Immigration from further south is there. These folk do jobs that Americans don't want to do. They work in abattoirs and picking tomatoes and cleaning houses. They send their kids to college. This is not a trouble making minority...if all Latinos were sent back tomorrow there would be a huge problem in the US economy....do you really see Anericans black or poor whites picking tomatoes when they can easily just go on welfare? There are much better and more humane ways of curbing illegal immigration.

Healthy growing? Even during the best growth years during the 90s, it was very top heavy growth (rich getting richer). Real median wage has stagnated since the Vietnam War ended....that is not healthy at all....the main reason being too much govt consumption/transfer in a country where the system naturally is made for free private enterprise to succeed.

The sheer economic inertia of the US carried it through this till about the year 2000...then the war on terror (esp iraq) was what set it over the edge into a slow decline into the abyss. Obama "change" turned out to be the same ole democrat version of a fiscal hole... more red tape, welfare, taxes and greater bureaucracy and govt control. This will continue under Clinton. No thanks.

Real median wage has stagnated more due to technology and globalization than anything else. The differential between equally qualified workers in the first world and the third world is marrowing and will continue to narrow.

Again it has been laundered, dry cleaned and laundered again by the media before it gets to you the concerned average joe.

Seriously? What was the Bengazi hearings then if not a witch hunt on Hilary by FOX news.

The DNC emails were hacked by Putin....if An enemy country Russia wants Trump in the White House then surely that is enough to vote the other way, didn't we feel that wY when Hafiz Saeed endorsed Burka Dutt...for me that was end of story as far as she was concerned.

It is a serious matter that Russia is interfering in the US elections.

I'm glad Trump went with the classy Pence

Annoying is not a factor...mental stability is.

I'll take annoying but sane any day over entertaining but insane.

I don't want to go the WW2 route with Japan ever again.

They are the most martial race on earth, don't encourage aggressiveness or we will all live to regret it.
 
.
Net immigration from Mexico is ZERO.

Of course Immigration from further south is there. These folk do jobs that Americans don't want to do. They work in abattoirs and picking tomatoes and cleaning houses. They send their kids to college. This is not a trouble making minority...if all Latinos were sent back tomorrow there would be a huge problem in the US economy....do you really see Anericans black or poor whites picking tomatoes when they can easily just go on welfare? There are much better and more humane ways of curbing illegal immigration.

The issue is not net legal immigration. The issue is illegal immigration and the components of the people in this illegal immigration.

Illegal immigration stems from Mexico along with the other Central American Countries through Mexico. It is NOT only the latter, Mexico has plenty of desperately poor areas that generate lots of illegal immigrants trying to get into the US.

The Mexican govt recognises this and even shamelessly indulges in supporting it:

http://cdn.freedomainradio.com/FDR_3310_Mexico_Is_Sending.pdf


Real median wage has stagnated more due to technology and globalization than anything else. The differential between equally qualified workers in the first world and the third world is marrowing and will continue to narrow.

Its part of the reason, but it has been exacerbated severely by sustained govt consumption and transfer creating massive fiscal strain (the future unfunded liabilities should be more than enough to convince anyone that looks at it without bias) that also extracts massive amounts from productive activity....severely curtailing the level to which private enterprise at all levels can reinvest and expand which will help the real wage.

All because its much more politically correct and popular to make it look like govt programs actually result in achieving their aims.....when in fact govt is a massive inefficient leech that is mostly in the business of burning money and creating self-perpetuating economic environments of vested interests and productivity absorption.

Seriously? What was the Bengazi hearings then if not a witch hunt on Hilary by FOX news.


The DNC emails were hacked by Putin....if An enemy country Russia wants Trump in the White House then surely that is enough to vote the other way, didn't we feel that wY when Hafiz Saeed endorsed Burka Dutt...for me that was end of story as far as she was concerned.

It is a serious matter that Russia is interfering in the US elections.

The bigger issue is that they clearly showed how the DNC rigged the system against the non-Hillary candidate.

The democrat party attacked the hackings, tried to connect it to trump....but were unable to deny the material of the emails (forcing several high level resignations).

That is going to bite them pretty badly come election time from the bernie crowd (who are angered and frustrated enough already).

Putin couldn't care less who wins the election, he will work with both of them. But he definitely wants to see Hillary knocked down a few pegs wherever possible...since its harder to do with Trump and the RNC since Trump beat the rigging from that end anyway and Trump does not have a long history of dirty politics like Hillary does (clinton foundation, emailgate and many other things).

Putin is just hedging and gaining diplo-cred where possible. His hackers most definitely have the full emails that hillary "deleted" from her private server....and he is probably blackmailing her right now....or will soon do so at some more opportune time. With Trump he has next to nothing...other than a fresh start and new beginning. Either way works for him....but Clinton and the traitorous democrats that have propped and shielded her are a terrible choice for the US.

Annoying is not a factor...mental stability is.

I'll take annoying but sane any day over entertaining but insane.

Genuinely insane people tend to do pretty badly at business.

I would take the unpredictable guy over the established crooked and corrupt person anytime. At least theres a chance for change....and there is enough checks and balances to keep the legitimate boundaries in play anyway.

I don't want to go the WW2 route with Japan ever again.

They are the most martial race on earth, don't encourage aggressiveness or we will all live to regret it.

China seems to be the much larger instigator in East Asia. Japan is being more responsive after showing caution and patience for how long now?

And how is Hillary going to help smooth anything there between the two anyway? Japan is simply becoming more assertive with or without the US because of China's actions. Its pretty much a non-issue as far as Trump and Hillary are concerned....and more of a what will china do in the long term.

If Japan gets nukes because of Trump coming to power (by getting Japan to take a greater share of its defence burden)...thats a good thing because it will kill the chance of a war actually happening in the area.
 
.
The issue is not net legal immigration. The issue is illegal immigration and the components of the people in this illegal immigration.

Illegal immigration stems from Mexico along with the other Central American Countries through Mexico. It is NOT only the latter, Mexico has plenty of desperately poor areas that generate lots of illegal immigrants trying to get into the US.

The Mexican govt recognises this and even shamelessly indulges in supporting it:

http://cdn.freedomainradio.com/FDR_3310_Mexico_Is_Sending.pdf



Its part of the reason, but it has been exacerbated severely by sustained govt consumption and transfer creating massive fiscal strain (the future unfunded liabilities should be more than enough to convince anyone that looks at it without bias) that also extracts massive amounts from productive activity....severely curtailing the level to which private enterprise at all levels can reinvest and expand which will help the real wage.

All because its much more politically correct and popular to make it look like govt programs actually result in achieving their aims.....when in fact govt is a massive inefficient leech that is mostly in the business of burning money and creating self-perpetuating economic environments of vested interests and productivity absorption.



The bigger issue is that they clearly showed how the DNC rigged the system against the non-Hillary candidate.

The democrat party attacked the hackings, tried to connect it to trump....but were unable to deny the material of the emails (forcing several high level resignations).

That is going to bite them pretty badly come election time from the bernie crowd (who are angered and frustrated enough already).

Putin couldn't care less who wins the election, he will work with both of them. But he definitely wants to see Hillary knocked down a few pegs wherever possible...since its harder to do with Trump and the RNC since Trump beat the rigging from that end anyway and Trump does not have a long history of dirty politics like Hillary does (clinton foundation, emailgate and many other things).

Putin is just hedging and gaining diplo-cred where possible. His hackers most definitely have the full emails that hillary "deleted" from her private server....and he is probably blackmailing her right now....or will soon do so at some more opportune time. With Trump he has next to nothing...other than a fresh start and new beginning. Either way works for him....but Clinton and the traitorous democrats that have propped and shielded her are a terrible choice for the US.



Genuinely insane people tend to do pretty badly at business.

I would take the unpredictable guy over the established crooked and corrupt person anytime. At least theres a chance for change....and there is enough checks and balances to keep the legitimate boundaries in play anyway.



China seems to be the much larger instigator in East Asia. Japan is being more responsive after showing caution and patience for how long now?

And how is Hillary going to help smooth anything there between the two anyway? Japan is simply becoming more assertive with or without the US because of China's actions. Its pretty much a non-issue as far as Trump and Hillary are concerned....and more of a what will china do in the long term.

If Japan gets nukes because of Trump coming to power (by getting Japan to take a greater share of its defence burden)...thats a good thing because it will kill the chance of a war actually happening in the area.

Nigiri - if this guy was as misunderstood as you say he is then why these stampede?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...p-gop-stampede-begins/?utm_term=.10ddd8fcc67e


The former CIA chief has come out against trump and claimed him to be a security risk.

Dozens of republicans are asking the RNC to cut of funds for trump. More than 70 republicans are pledging "never trump"

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/republicans-urge-rnc-cut-funds-trump-226918

For heavens sake the National Review , the most conservative of conservatives has come out against Trump!


This is his own side...with friends like this who needs enemies! These are people who understand the world better than any of us here and they do not trust the leader of their own party. Even the speaker of the house had to be talked into supporting trump. It is unprecedented. Truly unheard of in modern times.

I assume your argument is going to be that he is an "outsider" etc....but all these people put their own seats at risk. Remember Obama was the ultimate outsider.

Oh yes...that reminds me about trump and the birther movement ...what nonsense...he promised that "his people are uncovering amazing things in Hawai". ....what amazing thing did he uncover? ..the little liar!

I am not a leftist by any stretch of imagination, but this guy has gone too far.

The republicans began their downfall when they made their "agreement" with the religious right . You cannot pander to people who genuinely believe that human beings and dinosaurs existed at the same time and expect anything good to come of it!
 
Last edited:
.
For heavens sake the National Review , the most conservative of conservatives has come out against Trump!

Trump really gets the goat of many traditional conservatives.

After all he came out hard against the Iraq war that dubya did...and dubya, mccain etc...are people you should not criticize for the trad-cons to support you.

Trump is pretty much an independent campaigning under the republican banner. He will alienate a lot of the traditional support base but gain a lot of new supporters.

He hopes it will balance out in his favour come election time since the trad-cons know they have to vote anyway to get the right supreme court justice appointed.

Trump is hoping he will gain more new supporters to more than replace the ones he loses in the swing states.

Guess we will have to wait and see.

I am pretty sure whatever the result is, there will be a huge change in the political dynamics of the US and we may see both the republican and democrat parties rupturing in some way to create some newer equations.

Trump and Sanders definitely started something here, I am certain of it.
 
.
Trump really gets the goat of many traditional conservatives.

After all he came out hard against the Iraq war that dubya did...and dubya, mccain etc...are people you should not criticize for the trad-cons to support you.

Trump is pretty much an independent campaigning under the republican banner. He will alienate a lot of the traditional support base but gain a lot of new supporters.

He hopes it will balance out in his favour come election time since the trad-cons know they have to vote anyway to get the right supreme court justice appointed.

Trump is hoping he will gain more new supporters to more than replace the ones he loses in the swing states.

Guess we will have to wait and see.

I am pretty sure whatever the result is, there will be a huge change in the political dynamics of the US and we may see both the republican and democrat parties rupturing in some way to create some newer equations.

Trump and Sanders definitely started something here, I am certain of it.
Where are they gonna come from? The type of people who would vote for Trump already voted republican....he isn't going to get any democrats on his side no matter how much they hate hilary....we are gonna see really low turnout this year.
 
.
Where are they gonna come from? The type of people who would vote for Trump already voted republican....he isn't going to get any democrats on his side no matter how much they hate hilary....we are gonna see really low turnout this year.

They will have to come from the undecided/unlikely voters that most polls are writing off.

If its flops, he loses, its quite simple.

We will have a better idea once the first couple debates are done.
 
.
They will have to come from the undecided/unlikely voters that most polls are writing off.

If its flops, he loses, its quite simple.

We will have a better idea once the first couple debates are done.
Hillary will destroy Trump when it comes to debates, the only damage to Clinton campaign might come from wikileaks.

Trump could have capitalized from the situation only if he kept his mouth shut, but he an absolute retard.
 
.

Country Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom