US Politics

[ultron]

Whatever it might be, the point was that most people, despite the regressive left's best efforts, didn't respond very sensitively to Donald Trump's rhetoric because Islam is alien to most of them.

Think about it, if Trump really follows through and knocks the hell out of ISIS, FSA etc with Putin, he'll end up making Islam great again too.

The vast majority of Muslims don't even like Islamic State. If temporarily banning Muslims from entering the US makes American citizens including Muslim American citizens safer, Muslim American citizens may agree to that approach.

 

[T-72]

The vast majority of Muslims don't even like Islamic State. If temporarily banning Muslims from entering the US makes Americans citizens including Muslim American citizens safer, Muslim American citizens may agree to that approach.

shorthand speech, he expects everyone to 'get it' when he says something like, in case of Mexicans, that they're "bringing drugs, crime and rape" and that it didn't mean all Latino or even all Mexican people.

The vast majority of Muslims don't even like Islamic State. If temporarily banning Muslims from entering the US makes Americans citizens including Muslim American citizens safer, Muslim American citizens may agree to that approach.

shorthand speech, he expects everyone to 'get it' when he says something like, in case of Mexicans, that they're "bringing drugs, crime and rape" and that it didn't mean all Latino or even all Mexican people.

 

[cloud4000]

The vast majority of Muslims don't even like Islamic State. If temporarily banning Muslims from entering the US makes American citizens including Muslim American citizens safer, Muslim American citizens may agree to that approach.

I would say feeling safe and actually being safe are two different things. Those Muslims immigrating or visiting from Muslim countries already face extra scrutiny, so I don't know how much more scrutiny you can add. In addition, how do you stop Muslims entering from non-Muslim countries like UK? I don't believe US asks for you religion on visa applications.

The biggest threat of ISIS in US are homegrown terrorists. Muslims who have become radicalized online. No amount of immigration reform is going to stop this.

 

[RabzonKhan]

And that's just the start, people, agay agay dekho hota hai kya.


Trump camp denies he sought favor in Argentine call

Heidi M. Przybyla , USA TODAY3:32 p.m. EST November 21, 2016

President-elect Donald Trump's spokesman denied Monday an Argentine news report that Trump sought a business favor when that nation's president called to congratulate him on his Nov. 8 election victory.

"Not true," Trump transition spokesman Jason Miller told USA TODAY in an email.

Trump’s Buenos Aires office building project has been delayed by a series of issues, including financing and permitting requirements. When Argentine President Mauricio Macri called Trump to congratulate him on his election victory, Trump asked Macri to address the permitting issues, according to Jorge Lanata, one of the country’s most prominent journalists.

“This still hasn’t emerged but Trump asked for them to authorize a building he’s constructing in Buenos Aires, it wasn’t just a geopolitical chat,” said Lanata, who is quoted in La Nacion, one of Argentina’s leading dailies. A translation was provided by Talking Points Memo.

Reporter Will Carless in Buenos Aires tweeted that Macri's spokesman told him that the La Nacion was not true and that Trump did not ask about his project during the call with Macri.

During the campaign, Trump said Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton was guilty of "pay to play" by accepting donations to her family charity, the Clinton Foundation, from foreign countries like Qatar. There was never any indication she granted favors on behalf of those donors as secretary of State.

Trump has been receiving a flurry of calls from foreign leaders after his Nov. 8 election victory. The report comes as he is facing scrutiny over his business empire, which he says he will hand off to his adult children. The Trump team has called the arrangement a “blind trust.” Government ethics experts say it is not blind since his kids will be running it and that it raises significant concerns about foreign and domestic policy decisions he’ll face that would impact his global business networks.

Trump is also including his children in his transition team and his daughter, Ivanka, was seen attending a closed-door meeting last week with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe. The Washington Post reported over the weekend that about 100 foreign diplomats gathered for a reception in a ballroom at Trump Hotel in Washington in which many of them openly questioned whether staying at a Trump hotel will help them curry favor with the new president.

The New York Times reported that in the last week Trump met with three Indian business partners who flew from India to congratulate him. The trio is building a Trump-branded luxury apartment complex south of Mumbai. In a picture posted on Twitter, all four are smiling and giving a thumbs-up. Link

The only racists here are the leftists/Liberals who create racism where there is none and who think they can trash everyone else and impose their distorted worldview on the rest of humanity.

Yeah, right! This is coming from someone who posts racist propaganda.

William Johnson, page 25-----post 361

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/william-daniel-johnson

Jared Taylor Page 43-----post 641

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/jared-taylor

Now go ahead and deny that William Johnson and Jared Taylor are not racists.

PS if it's that bad you can move to Mexico (don't go to Canada, Europe, Australia or New Zealand, there's more White people in those countries ).

What nonsense, when did I say things are bad here? Almost 95% of my friends are white and I live in a white neighborhood, in fact, I showed your post to some of my buddies and they could not stop laughing.

 

[cloud4000]

And that's just the start, people, agay agay dekho hota hai kya.


Trump camp denies he sought favor in Argentine call

Heidi M. Przybyla , USA TODAY3:32 p.m. EST November 21, 2016

President-elect Donald Trump's spokesman denied Monday an Argentine news report that Trump sought a business favor when that nation's president called to congratulate him on his Nov. 8 election victory.

"Not true," Trump transition spokesman Jason Miller told USA TODAY in an email.

Trump’s Buenos Aires office building project has been delayed by a series of issues, including financing and permitting requirements. When Argentine President Mauricio Macri called Trump to congratulate him on his election victory, Trump asked Macri to address the permitting issues, according to Jorge Lanata, one of the country’s most prominent journalists.

“This still hasn’t emerged but Trump asked for them to authorize a building he’s constructing in Buenos Aires, it wasn’t just a geopolitical chat,” said Lanata, who is quoted in La Nacion, one of Argentina’s leading dailies. A translation was provided by Talking Points Memo.

Reporter Will Carless in Buenos Aires tweeted that Macri's spokesman told him that the La Nacion was not true and that Trump did not ask about his project during the call with Macri.

During the campaign, Trump said Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton was guilty of "pay to play" by accepting donations to her family charity, the Clinton Foundation, from foreign countries like Qatar. There was never any indication she granted favors on behalf of those donors as secretary of State.

Trump has been receiving a flurry of calls from foreign leaders after his Nov. 8 election victory. The report comes as he is facing scrutiny over his business empire, which he says he will hand off to his adult children. The Trump team has called the arrangement a “blind trust.” Government ethics experts say it is not blind since his kids will be running it and that it raises significant concerns about foreign and domestic policy decisions he’ll face that would impact his global business networks.

Trump is also including his children in his transition team and his daughter, Ivanka, was seen attending a closed-door meeting last week with Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe. The Washington Post reported over the weekend that about 100 foreign diplomats gathered for a reception in a ballroom at Trump Hotel in Washington in which many of them openly questioned whether staying at a Trump hotel will help them curry favor with the new president.

The New York Times reported that in the last week Trump met with three Indian business partners who flew from India to congratulate him. The trio is building a Trump-branded luxury apartment complex south of Mumbai. In a picture posted on Twitter, all four are smiling and giving a thumbs-up. Link

Trump needs to get in his head that he is no longer a businessman, even as President-elect. He must get into the mindset that he's President and must act like a President, which not only means that he carries himself like one, but follow the rules that Presidents need to follow.

At the rate he's going, he going to be impeached. He's a scandal waiting to happen.

 

[RabzonKhan]

@RabzonKhan @All those scared of Trump Mate.. don't worry too much.

I have said it several times, it's not about me. My fear is that Trump and his hard-line aides, Mike Flynn and Steve Bannon, to name a few, inflammatory rhetoric will further damage our relationship with the Muslim world and could even fuel more Muslim extremism, and that will certainly benefit AQ, Taliban and IS terrorists.

 

[ultron]

Poroshenko became Ukraine president and never sold off his business. Donald Trump will pass power to Donald Trump. Donald Trump became CEO in 1971 at the age of only 25. Donald Trump keeps hogging it and not pass it to Donald Trump.

 

[SQ8]

The vast majority of Muslims don't even like Islamic State. If temporarily banning Muslims from entering the US makes American citizens including Muslim American citizens safer, Muslim American citizens may agree to that approach.

Hardly. That is the idiocy of the whole idea that somehow people coming in bring the issues. We already have such strict measures that whatever does get past does so because it got through the internet. Even the wife of the guy who murdered his colleagues got connected with him via the internet.
The florida nightclub guy was someone who coped with his own homosexuality and frustrations by turning to internet based Jihad elements for salvation.

In all of this, the issue is the internet. We already solved the issue of who is coming in and who is not post September-11.

I'll tell you a plain thing. There is a guy whose facebook profile I have kept saved. He belongs to the Hizb-ut-tahrir; openly calls for caliphate and throwing the US out of "Muslim" lands. He is in Philly. I reported his profile, his posts to every possible reporting agency.

Now, why is he still out there posting? What is the wait for?
Are they waiting for some legal precedent under free speech? Are they waiting until he decides to go buy a assault rifle and then use it?
What are they waiting to take him down for?

It is this inaction that leads to incidents like Florida and California, and will continue to do so.
Those coming in are already scrutinized enough. In case of the California dude; they made the cardinal mistake of simply ignoring scrutiny under the Fiance guise.

 

[LA se Karachi]

2 ways to look at it, either it's a big man move/magnanimous gesture from Trump to try and reach out and unify his party, or that the system is rigged and the elites are all in bed. Remember that they both took swipes at each other, if Romney made one big speech, Trump went out night after night calling him a choker and mocking him to huge crowds of tens of thousands of people.

Oh, I'm sure he's trying to unify his party and look good. I'm just saying that Romney had some choice words for him this year before he became President.

The "failed" businessman thing is a ridiculous charge anyway, even if some of his ventures (airline/education) didn't succeed.

It's not just that many of them failed, but also that he made so much money from these failures.

Apart from his initial 'muslm ban/total shutdown' comment, which I thought was a bit extreme, what exactly has he proposed that is so radical ? He's walked back on the muslim ban since, and did end up doing better than Romney with Latinos and Blacks so...

Well, I was just pointing out how much disdain Romney has for Trump. Obviously, our views differ greatly on Trump and his policies.

Although, Reince Priebus (an establishment Republican, by the way) recently said that while there are currently no plans for a registry of Muslim immigrants based on faith, he's "not going to rule anything out".

 

[Solomon2]

• SCOTT ADAMS' BLOG

Persuasion Versus Populism
Posted November 21st, 2016 @ 12:24pm in #Trump

I’m hearing lots of after-the-fact explanations for why Trump won the election. The most common interpretation of events is that many citizens had a view of the country that pundits, pollsters, and the Clinton campaign missed. But somehow Trump accurately identified the mood of the people – especially in the Great Lakes region – and crafted a message to fit their emotions.

That explanation of events fits the observed data. Trump’s priorities do seem to match what polls tell us people are thinking and feeling. Or at least enough people feel that way to give Trump the Electoral College win. In this view of the world, Trump is a populist who has good instincts about what people want to hear.

But as I have been teaching you for the past year, people can be living in different movies while physically inhabiting the same spacetime. In your movie, Trump might be a populist as the experts are saying. But in my movie, Trump is a Master Persuader. And the script for my movie fits the observed facts just as well as yours. Maybe better.

The Master Persuader filter says Trump didn’t identify and match the preferences of the people so much as cause them to think the way they are thinking. My filter on the election says that Trump’s skill for persuasion could have given him the victory with DIFFERENT policies than the ones he championed – such as Bernie Sanders policies. And Trump would look like a populist in that case too.

Keep in mind that most voters are handcuffed to their party’s candidate. That guarantees that most elections will be close, no matter who runs. The winner is the candidate who can move perhaps 5% of voters from column A to B. And the Master Persuader had a year-long election cycle and total media exposure to get that minor task accomplished. This is why I predicted Trump’s win a year before it happened.

I don’t believe reality is something the human brain can understand. We didn’t evolve with the ability to see reality for what it is. Evolution only cares if we survive and procreate. In this case, people who think Trump is a populist can have babies, and so can the people who think we elected Hitler, and so can the people who think Trump is a well-meaning Master Persuader. That’s three different movies. Evolution doesn’t care which worldview is right, if any. It only cares that we can make more babies. And we can.

Still, it might matter who has the most “useful” movie among us. The Master Persuader movie did a good job in predicting Trump’s success. It also predicts Trump moving to the middle, persuading Pence to be more LGBTQ-friendly, and good relations with other countries. That’s the movie plot I see coming.

But some of you are in a movie that is dark and dangerous. Perhaps you see a world in which the next Hitler just came to power. Some of you see a clown with no skill coming to power because his populist message was effective. Those are scary movies compared to my feel-good film. If you could switch to my movie, and lose nothing but your anxiety for the future, wouldn’t you want to do it? In my movie, we have lots of Trump success ahead and none of the dark possibilities will come to pass.

So how can you tell whether or not you are in the wrong movie? I’ll give you a few clues.

Consider…

If Trump didn’t win because of his persuasion skills, which other Republican candidate can you imagine beating Clinton?

You might be thinking that Clinton’s email problems and the Comey announcements made her an unusually weak candidate, and that means any sane Republican could have beaten her. But you’d be wrong. The reason that the emails, the Comey decisions, and Wikileaks were so effective is that Trump had been labelling Clinton “Crooked Hillary” for months. That created the confirmation bias trap that made everything Clinton ever did sound suspicious. None of the other candidates would have crafted such a perfect persuasion trap.

I also have a hard time imagining any other candidate going after Bill Clinton so hard that it took him out of the game. Was Jeb going to do that?

If you believe Trump’s skill for persuasion wasn’t the key variable in his win, you have to imagine some other candidate beating Clinton with the same set of policies as Trump. Personally, I can’t imagine it.

If you think Trump is the next Hitler, or a clown who got lucky with his populist message, you have to ask yourself why the stock market and the dollar are both up following the election. The smartest money-managers in the world have already abandoned their old movies and jumped over to movies they see as more useful for making money, apparently.

If you think Trump is the next Hitler, you have to ask yourself why every major world power has already said they think they can work with him, no problem.

If you think Trump is a lucky incompetent who inherited money from his father, you have to explain why he has succeeded in real estate, reality TV, and now politics. Can incompetent people win that bigly in three different arenas while everyone is watching?

If you think Trump has anti-semite advisors, you have to wonder why his son-in-law Jared Kushner hasn’t noticed any of that and is working hard for Trump.

If you think Trump is a racist, you have to wonder how he learned to act so well that he could be in this picture looking as non-racist as a person can look.

And if you think Trump is any or all of the things you heard from the mainstream media, you have to wonder why they were so thoroughly wrong about the one thing that can be measured objectively – the election results.

You might also wonder why the anti-Trump protests are petering out. If a real Hitler came to power, would people get tired of walking around outside to protest?

The biggest demographic group opposing Trump – including the ones on the street – are young people. Objectively speaking, young people are the dumbest people within every demographic group. I was dumber when I was younger. So were you. So is everyone else. Ask yourself if it is a coincidence that the dumbest people within every demographic group lean in the same direction.

The Master Persuader filter says that young people have not yet experienced multiple situations in which the media scares the public over nothing. To them, the fear of Trump is real because the Internet and the media says it is real. To people my age, we have seen one fake media scare after another. We don’t believe in fake scares the same way that that young people do because we’ve been through it so many times.

As the election season fog begins to clear, most people will start to see Trump as an unconventional president whose policies conform to the preferences of the governed. But that simple movie is boring. I invite you to join my movie, in which each of us has a small role in making America Great Again. You just have to find your part.

It’s a good movie. I think you’ll like it.

 

[Desert Fox]

Almost 95% of my friends are white and I live in a white neighborhood

Why not move to a Black or Mexican neighborhood? Oh, right, you're a racist hypocrite.

You "liberals" are the purest form of hypocrites; you preach diversity to others but live in White countries/neighborhoods yourselves and interact with Whites only.

I just showed your post to some of my Black and Mexican buddies and they laughed at your racist hypocrisy

PS, i'm enjoying the amount of liberal butt hurt caused by Trump and his new administration full of Alt-Righters.

Yeah, right! This is coming from someone who posts racist propaganda.

William Johnson, page 25-----post 361

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/william-daniel-johnson

Jared Taylor Page 43-----post 641

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/jared-taylor

Now go ahead and deny that William Johnson and Jared Taylor are not racists.

So how many people has Jared Taylor killed? He has the right to his views no matter how much you might disagree with him. At least he's not preaching beheading people and selling women into sex slavery.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Trump Dumps Pledge to Prosecute Clinton as He Refines Agenda

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...ests-he-ll-drop-pledge-to-investigate-clinton

 

[RabzonKhan]

Agay agay dekho hota hai kya.

Trump Foundation admits to violating ban on ‘self-dealing,’ new filing to IRS shows

By David A. Fahrenthold November 22

President-elect Donald Trump’s charitable foundation has admitted to the IRS that it violated a legal prohibition against “self-dealing,” which bars nonprofit leaders from using their charity’s money to help themselves, their businesses or their families.

That admission was contained in the Donald J. Trump Foundation’s IRS tax filingsfor 2015, which were recently posted online at the nonprofit-tracking site GuideStar. A GuideStar spokesman said the forms were uploaded by the Trump Foundation’s law firm, Morgan, Lewis and Bockius.

The Post could not immediately confirm if the same forms had actually been sent to the IRS.

In one section of the form, the IRS asked if the Trump Foundation had transferred “income or assets to a disqualified person.” A disqualified person, in this context, might be Trump — the foundation’s president — or a member of his family, or a Trump-owned business.

The foundation checked “yes.”

Another line on the form asked if the Trump Foundation had engaged in any acts of self-dealing in prior years. The Trump Foundation checked “yes” again.

Such violations can carry penalties including excise taxes, and the charity leaders can be required to repay money that the charity spent on their behalf.

During the presidential campaign, The Washington Post reported on several instances in which Trump appeared to use the Trump Foundation’s money to buy items for himself or to help one of his for-profit businesses.

But the new Trump Foundation tax filings provided little detail so it was unclear if these admissions were connected to the instances reported in The Post.

The Trump Foundation tax forms did not, for instance, describe any specific acts of self-dealing. They also did not say whether Trump had paid any penalties already. That kind of detail would be submitted on a separate IRS form, which was not included in the information posted online Monday.

Spokesmen for Trump’s presidential campaign did not respond to a request for comment early Tuesday.

The New York attorney general’s office is investigating Trump’s charity, following up on reports in The Post that described apparent instances of self-dealing going back to 2007. A spokesman for Attorney General Eric Schneiderman declined to comment, other than to say “our investigation is ongoing.”

The IRS also did not immediately respond. That agency has not said if it is investigating the president-elect’s charity.

The Trump Foundation has existed since 1987. This appeared to be the first time that it had admitted committing such a violation.

Philip Hackney, who formerly worked in the IRS chief counsel’s office and now teaches at Louisiana State University, said he wanted to know why the Trump Foundation was now admitting to self-dealing in prior years — when, in all prior years, it had told the IRS it had done nothing of the kind.

“What transactions led to the self-dealing that they’re admitting to? Why weren’t they able to recognize them in prior years,” Hackney said. He said that, since the prior years’ returns were signed by Trump, that opened the president-elect to questions about what he had missed and how.

During the presidential campaign, The Post revealed several instances — worth about $300,000 — where Trump seemed to have used the Trump Foundation to help himself.

In two cases, The Post reported, the Trump Foundation appeared to pay legal settlements to end lawsuits that involved his for-profit businesses.

In one case, Trump settled a dispute with the town of Palm Beach, Fla., over a large flagpole he erected at his Mar-a-Lago Club. The town agreed to waive $120,000 in unpaid fines if Trump’s club donated $100,000 to Fisher House, a charity helping wounded veterans and military personnel. The Trump Foundation paid that donation instead — effectively saving his business $100,000.

In another, Trump’s golf course in New York’s Westchester County was sued by a man who had won a $1 million hole-in-one prize during a tournament at the course. The man was later denied the money because Trump’s course had allegedly made the hole too short for the prize to be valid.

The lawsuit was settled, and details on that final settlement have not been made public. But on the day that the parties told the court that their lawsuit had been settled, the Trump Foundation donated $158,000 to the unhappy golfer’s charity. Trump’s golf course donated nothing.

In three other cases, Trump’s foundation paid for items that Trump or his wife purchased at charity auctions. In 2012, Trump bid $12,000 for a football helmet signed by then-Denver Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow.

In another case, from 2007, Trump’s wife, Melania, bid $20,000 on a six-foot-tall portrait of Trump painted by “speed painter” Michael Israel during a gala at Mar-a-Lago. And in 2014, Trump bid $10,000 to buy a four-foot painting of himself by artist Havi Schanz at another charity gala. Read more

 

[Beidou2020]

Trump Dumps Pledge to Prosecute Clinton as He Refines Agenda

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...ests-he-ll-drop-pledge-to-investigate-clinton

Trump is playing it smart.

If he says he will prosecute Clinton, Obama will immediately pardon her.

It is not up to Trump anyway, it's up to the FBI and AG.

Trump knows Obama still has the powers to Clinton off the hook.

 

[RabzonKhan]

Wow, it looks like draft-dodging is a family tradition.


In 1905 Bavaria Kicked Out Draft-Dodger Donald Trump’s Draft-Dodging Grandpa
By Hrafnkell Haraldsson on Tue, Nov 22nd, 2016

Oh dear. Some things really do never change, do they?

Friedrich Trump returned to Bavaria in the early 1900s but since he had skipped out without completing his obligatory service in the Bavarian army (like grandson Donald would later dodge service in the United States Army) he was labeled a draft-dodger and had to go. Read more

Why not move to a Black or Mexican neighborhood? Oh, right, you're a racist hypocrite.

You "liberals" are the purest form of hypocrites; you preach diversity to others but live in White countries/neighborhoods yourselves and interact with Whites only.

I just showed your post to some of my Black and Mexican buddies and they laughed at your racist hypocrisy

As usual, you're not making any sense. See, I'm not a narrow-minded bigot, I don't see America as a white country, but a great country, and that's why I came here.

Why I don't “move to black or Mexican neighborhood”, because there are no black or Mexican neighborhoods in my city, genius. I live in a small city that is 92.7% white, the rest are mostly Natives, Vietnamese and others, and that is the reason most of my friends are white, understand, genius.

Bty, with the exception of your favorite Jared Taylor and the Alt-right racists, I don't think average decent whites have a problem with diversity.

So how many people has Jared Taylor killed? He has the right to his views no matter how much you might disagree with him. At least he's not preaching beheading people and selling women into sex slavery.

Talk about diversion tactics, I mentioned Jared Taylor's name in response to your bogus claim that liberals “create racism where there is none”, sorry, if I embarrassed you.

Let me remind you that this thread is not about me, and I don't have time for such silly discussion.

Cheers!