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It's a double aged sword. Trump does not have the temperament, guile and even vocabulary to hit Hillary and yet appear presidential. If he goes dirty, which I think he will, he will look even worse and it's not like people don't know about Hillary's scandals. For most people, this election is all about choosing the lesser evil. If someone like Romney had run against Hillary, he would have 100% won IMO. The guy gave a tough fight to Obama who's far more popular than Hillary and without a scandalous past like the Clintons. Republicans shot themselves in the foot by nominating Trump. It is all over for Donnie boy.

IMO John Kasich was the best candidate for the republicans from the primaries. He was a center right himself and would have gotten all center right (+far right) votes and some center left votes too due to Hillary's scandals and her general unlikability.
I think this whole eleven years old tape issue is being completely blown out of proportion, even exaggerated in terms of its importance by the Mainstream Media which has clearly been biased in favor of Hillary Clinton.

In reality the average American doesn't care what Donald Trump said in some private conversation with another guy regarding making advances on beautiful women from eleven years ago. It was a private conversation and no one is exempt from talking like this within American society. I'm sure anyone that has lived and interacted with the average Americans, particularly the guys in a specifically guys only gathering has come across such conversations where guys brag about getting laid with so and so or going out with so and so or hooking up with so and so. Is it inappropriate? Yes. Is it out of norm? No. After all, we're talking about America here, the home of Hollywood and "pop culture" and pronography, where the book 50 Shades of Grey and the movie of the same name are a hit with American women.

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This whole tape revelation was just a mere distraction to throw off the focus from Hillary's private paid speeches to Wall Street, and most people have realize that. Regarding your other point about Kasich, he and the other nominees lost because their message did not resonate with the Republican voter base.
 
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US election: More top Republicans drop support for Trump
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More senior Republicans have withdrawn support for US presidential candidate Donald Trump after his obscene remarks about women became public.

At least a dozen Republicans have said they will not be voting for him, since the comments emerged on Friday.

Mr Trump says he will never drop out of the race to be president and will never let his supporters down.

He has been under pressure after a tape from 2005 of him bragging about groping and kissing women was broadcast.

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Image captionCondoleezza Rice: "Donald Trump should not be president."
The latest to withdraw their support are former Republican presidential candidate John McCain and former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.

Mr McCain said Mr Trump's comments "make it impossible to continue to offer even conditional support for his candidacy", while Ms Rice said: "Enough! Donald Trump should not be President. He should withdraw."

New Hampshire Senator Kelly Ayotte said in a statement: "I cannot and will not support a candidate for president who brags about degrading and assaulting women," she said

Ms Ayotte - who faces a competitive race for re-election - said she would not vote for Mrs Clinton but instead would "write in" Mike Pence, Mr Trump's vice-presidential running mate, on her ballot paper.

Several other Republicans also said they would vote for Mr Pence.

Media captionA video obtained by the Washington Post shows Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump making lewd remarks about women
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Mr Trump himself stressed that there was "zero chance I'll quit", adding that he was getting "unbelievable" support.

And in a tweet, the Republican candidate said "the media and establishment want me out of the race so badly".

Mr Trump's wife Melania issued a statement on Saturday saying: "The words my husband used are unacceptable and offensive to me."

She said her husband had "the heart and mind of a leader".

Mr Pence said he was "offended" by Mr Trump's video, but grateful he had expressed remorse and apologised to the American people.

"We pray for his family," he said in a statement.

House Speaker Paul Ryan had originally invited Mr Trump to attend a campaign event in Wisconsin this weekend but rescinded his invitation, saying he was "sickened" by what he had heard. Mr Pence was due to go in his running mate's place, but declined to attend.

Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton, Mr Trump's Democratic election rival, called his comments in the tape "horrific".

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In the recorded comments, which date back to 2005 when Mr Trump was appearing as a guest on a soap, he says "you can do anything" to women "when you're a star" and is heard saying "grab them by the pussy".

The candidate released a video statement apologising for the comments.

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Media captionTrump apologises for lewd comments and vows to be a "better man"
Mr Trump's 2005 comments, posted by the Washington Post, overshadowed the release of transcripts of Mrs Clinton's speeches to private events, by the whistle-blowing site Wikileaks.

The candidate had married his third wife Melania a few months before the recording. She said on Saturday: "I hope people will accept his apology, as I have, and focus on the important issues facing our nation and the world."

The second TV debate between Mr Trump and Mrs Clinton will take place on Sunday evening in St Louis.

Mr Trump recently said he would not bring up stories about Bill Clinton's infidelities in the debate, after previously threatening to do so.

But in his video apology, he attacked the former president directly:

"Bill Clinton has actually abused women, and Hillary has bullied, attacked and shamed his victims.

"We'll discuss this in the coming days," he said. "See you at the debate on Sunday."

Is this Trump row different? - Katty Kay, Presenter, BBC World News
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The day after a video emerged in which he suggested he could have any woman he wants because he's a star and so could just grab them by the pussy, Mr Trump is in a whole ocean of hot political water.

Enough, quite possibly, to sink any chance he had of winning the White House.

There is a violence in the phrases "grab 'em by the pussy" and "you can do anything" that any victim of abuse would recognise and that most women would find sickening.

But this tape doesn't just offend women, judging from the reaction in the Republican party. It has offended a lot of men too. Whether those men will now withdraw their endorsements of him is yet to be seen.
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Exactly! Trump has been holding back on a lot of things pertaining to the Clinton's dark scandalous past and i think he's doing this so as to not seem "un-Presidential", but at this point he has every reason to bring Clinton scandals up in the next debate to keep the pressure mounting on her camp.

Trump supporters are unswervingly loyal to their candidate and this really isn't the first time the pro-Hillary MSM tried their best to throw dirt on him. Trump camp is resilient and will continue to remain so.
I heard there are 2 more such videos waiting to be released,just like this one.

See his supporters will remain with him.. but he needs the independents to get the swing states on his side

These videos will take away those independents!

& the primaries are different from the Main event!

You need millions to come out & vote & spread your message.. you really need a strong machinery for this.
 
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I heard there are 2 more such videos waiting to be released,just like this one.

See his supporters will remain with him.. but he needs the independents to get the swing states on his side

These videos will take away those independents!

& the primaries are different from the Main event!

You need millions to come out & vote & spread your message.. you really need a strong machinery for this.
Trump isn't out because the people are still with him. He only needs the people, not a dozen sellout Politicians. If this first recording hasn't deterred his support base, i doubt these "two" other recordings will.


Despite Media Propaganda, Trump Supporters
Come Out To Show Their Support For The Donald



Meanwhile Paul Ryan (R., Wisconsin) Gets Booed
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Sorry, Donald and Rudy, most men don't talk like that
By Dean Obeidallah 10/9/2016

(CNN)Donald Trump and some of his supporters want you to believe that his vile comments about women on a recently released video are just typical "locker room banter." Trump is 100 percent wrong -- unless that locker room is in a prison where sexual predators are jailed.

The words Trump used are not the typical language used by men to describe women --- in or out of a locker room. I say that as someone who played ice hockey on my high school and college team and have heard guys in locker rooms say lots of things about women -- some awful. And still Trump's comments, made when he was 59 years old, are far more appalling than those of guys in their late teens and early twenties.

I was raised in North Jersey at a time when the concept of "political correctness" was not even known. Yes, many young men spoke in ways that objectified women, commenting in detail on how "hot" certain women were and sharing their desire to hook up with them. And many bragged about their "sexual conquests" in an effort to impress us.

But I never ever heard a man boast or even talk about kissing or groping women without their consent like Trump did: "I just start kissing them...Just kiss. I don't even wait." Trump later added, "Grab them by the pu**y. You can do anything."

This is bragging about sexually assaulting women, since that is exactly what kissing or touching women without their consent is. It's that simple.

Yet Trump and some supporters want you to believe that his comments were just "guys being guys." On Sunday Rudy Giuliani, while calling Trump's remarks "horrible," told CNN's Jake Tapper "but the fact is that men at times talk like that."

To his credit Tapper responded forcefully, "I have been in locker rooms. I have been a member of a fraternity. I have never heard any man, ever, brag about being able to maul women because they get away with it -- never."

Trump's wealthy backers, Robert and Rebekah Mercer, disturbingly offered a similar defense with their statement, "We are completely indifferent to Mr. Trump's locker room braggadocio."
"Indifferent" to someone bragging about sexual assault? I sincerely hope no women in their family are ever subjected to what Trump boasted he had done to other people's daughters.

Even given Trump's history, his comments in this video are mind-blowing. And that is saying a lot, considering Trump has made countless remarks demeaning women -- calling them a "pig," a "slob" and a "bimbo," and tweeting that "Hillary Clinton couldn't satisfy her husband what makes you think she could satisfy America?"

Why would Trump think he could get away with his degrading words and possibly even touching women inappropriately? Well, as he told us in the video: "When you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything." While I'm not comparing Trump to Bill Cosby, it does conjure up the same mindset. When it comes to women, some rich male celebrities appear to think they can get away with doing anything they want.
Trump's track record in defending famous men who have allegedly engaged in sexual misconduct makes this episode even more troubling. Most recently he defended former Fox News chief and Trump campaign adviser Roger Ailes against claims that Ailes sexually harassed over 20 women by questioning whether the female victims were telling the truth.

In 1992, Trump publicly defended Mike Tyson against rape charges even after he had been convicted, claiming Tyson was "railroaded." Worse, Trump in essence blamed the victim for being raped by saying, "You have a young woman that was in his hotel room late in the evening at her own will."

And Trump, who will likely raise the issue of Bill Clinton's alleged sexual misconduct at tonight's debate, also has slammed the women who made allegations against Clinton by saying, "His victims are terrible... a terrible group of people" and even called some of them "unattractive."

To say Trump is simply saying typical guy stuff is absolutely wrong. Trump is not the typical guy. He is a celebrity who has for years despicably demeaned women, bragged about possibly sexually assaulting women and defended men involved in (alleged) sexual improprieties.

This is just more proof to add to an avalanche of evidence that Trump should never, ever serve as president of the United States of America. Link

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6% is not very narrow for me & HC's lead isn't narrow. It's big for me(5-8%) & scary for Trump.

I define narrow as 2-3% and below.
Pence won with six points, the poll had the margin of sampling error of plus or minus of 4.5 percentage points, therefore, his lead was only 1.5% points. On the other hand, Hillary's lead over Trump was 35 points with the same error of plus or minus and that's why I don't think it was really a very significant lead. But the bottom line is, he won.

Lol, not only the average American guy, but even high school, junior high, even elementary school boys AND girls talk like that in this age of globalism. Hollywood produced music videos glorify this stuff. An hour of MTV will only show half naked women and guys rapping about screwing b!tches.

So like i said, no damage done. Those who were supporting Hillary will continue to support her, and those who support Trump will continue to support him, and those who are independent will remain independent. Nobody gives two sh!ts :lol: unless everyone BUT Donald Trump is a saint.
You can remain in denial all you want, but the fact is, if it was really not a serious matter (as you want us to believe), an arrogant man like Trump would not have apologized twice.
 
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You can remain in denial all you want, but the fact is, if it was really not a serious matter (as you want us to believe), an arrogant man like Trump would not have apologized twice.
It's a fact my good friend. In a society where books like Fifty Shades of Grey (in which, ironically a rich guy sexually abuses a woman) rate high with the women of this country, do you think people will actually care? Some will find it funny, some will find it annoying, the rest will move on.

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Now, regarding Trump's apology, you have to understand that was his way of humbling himself before the people so as to make Hillary seem like a corrupt witch for not acknowledging her corrupt acts and apologizing to the people for her double dealings. Very smart strategy by Trump i have to say.
 
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I think it follows the same trend like we saw in the primaries....improvement over time by Trump.

This means the 3rd final debate is well poised for him I feel.
Exactly! I think the first debate was his way of gauging Hillary's capabilities to get a feel of how he would stratagize for the last two debates.

"because you'd be in jail" ----was the best part :lol:
LMAO!!! I almost choked from laughter when he said that.
 
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