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In the drawdown to the 2014 withdrawal of western troops from Afghanistan, complicated logistics are being worked out by countries which had deployed troops in Afghanistan.

Large volumes weapons of different specifications, ranging from heavy ones, including armoured vehicles, etc. are to be pulled out of the Afghanistan, posing a major logistic challenge.

Given the intricate issues involved in transporting these weapon systems into Afghanistan through Pakistan, their withdrawal would also cause immense difficulties.

Poor security conditions in areas along the Pak-Afghan border which have been the corridor for transportation of such arms and equipment may not be as safe for moving such items at this stage. A cost benefit of such operations are distinctly not favourable and therefore, the US, which has the largest consignment located in Afghanistan, has been looking for ways and means of disposing arms and equipment among countries in the region.

Pakistan has been the frontrunner in claiming such weapons and has been making desperate efforts to convince US officials at different levels to consider handing over of critical weapon systems to Pakistan. In this connection, during visit by senior Pak officials from the Army as well as the Foreign Ministry to the US, Pakistan has lobbied intensively to take over as many of these weapons as possible. This, no doubt, is a favourable deal for Pakistan since most weapons and equipment have been used and therefore, their costing could be reduced drastically by the owner country.

During discussions between Pakistan and the US on the matter, the Department of Defence has agreed to hand over weapons and equipment used specifically for anti-terror operations. However, the US has clarified that heavier weapons such as M1A1 Abrams armoured vehicles and Paradim self-propelled howitzers cannot be handed over due to the high power and capability of the weapon systems. This would also have a bearing on the Pak Army’s fire power vis-à-vis other countries (ostensibly India).

Among the items which have been identified for handing over to Pakistan are night vision devices (many have been handed over to Pakistan already), sniper pods, laser designators for the Pak Air Force needed for long range target detection and ground surveillance useful for anti-terror operations etc.

The weapon systems handed over also include counter-IED equipment and sophisticated explosive detectors, including buffalo explosives detection and disposal vehicles as well as combat radio sets and communication equipment, including electronic eves dropping equipment.

Significantly, the US has acceded to persistent Pak request for AMRAAM air-to-air missiles, sidewinder missiles and M-270 multiple launch rocket systems which fall in the category of weapons which are banned from being supplied to Pakistan by any European country or the US. In order to effect the supply of AMRAAM advanced air to air missiles, the US has worked a mechanism for handing over significant numbers of these missiles to Pakistan and Jordan even though they do not fit any counter-terrorism role. The modus operandi would be to do the paper work in a manner that they indicate sale of these weapons to Jordan (or Jordan being shown as the user country) while the missiles would be supplied to Pakistan. Likewise, the latest version of sidewinder air to air missiles (AIM9X), while not falling into the category of anti-terror weapon would be declared as meant for Jordan while it would actually be supplied to the PAF. The M270 multiple launch rocket system, around 150 of which are presently deployed in Afghanistan, would form part of the inventory of supplies to Pakistan through Jordan.
 
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The M270 MLRS was first used during the Gulf war in 1991.

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Very pleasant developments. Especially of the Buffalo EOD.

And are the rockets on the M270 gonna be guided?

The weapon can fire guided and unguided projectiles up to 42 km (26 mi). Firing ballistic missiles, (such as the U.S. Army Tactical Missile System—ATACMS), it can hit targets 300 km (190 mi) away; the warhead in such shots reaches an altitude of about 50 km (164,000 ft). The M270 can be used in shoot-and-scoot tactics, firing its rockets rapidly, then moving away to avoid counter-battery fire.
 
The weapon can fire guided and unguided projectiles up to 42 km (26 mi). Firing ballistic missiles, (such as the U.S. Army Tactical Missile System—ATACMS), it can hit targets 300 km (190 mi) away; the warhead in such shots reaches an altitude of about 50 km (164,000 ft). The M270 can be used in shoot-and-scoot tactics, firing its rockets rapidly, then moving away to avoid counter-battery fire.

You reckon it can be mated with the Nasr?
 
Will the rocket be the M26 or M30?
I don't think ATACMS would also be provided...it has quite longer range.
 
The M270 multiple launch rocket system, around 150 of which are presently deployed in Afghanistan, would form part of the inventory of supplies to Pakistan through Jordan.

What does this mean through Jordan? Why can't it deliver to Pakistan from Afghanistan border in cost saving?

No, it is just standard rockets, US doesn't offer guided ATACMS missile.

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With this huge 150 M270s MLRS inventories, still US can't win the wars against Talibans, lol. How can Pakistan win against terrorisms?

We still excited, eh....
 
This is such great news, we've been waiting for this for years since the news was first speculated.

What does this mean through Jordan? Why can't it deliver to Pakistan from Afghanistan border in cost saving?

No, it is just standard rockets, US doesn't offer guided ATACMS missile.

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With this huge 150 M270s MLRS inventories, still US can't win the wars against Talibans, lol. How can Pakistan win against terrorisms?

We still excited, eh....

I think the through Jordan part means these weapons were suppose to be sold to Jordan after 2014 withdraw but then were designated to go to Pakistan. Not sure but the article is a bit unclear. Pakistan should bargain harder for more advance NATO and US defense systems.
 
What does this mean through Jordan? Why can't it deliver to Pakistan from Afghanistan border in cost saving?

No, it is just standard rockets, US doesn't offer guided ATACMS missile.

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With this huge 150 M270s MLRS inventories, still US can't win the wars against Talibans, lol. How can Pakistan win against terrorisms?

We still excited, eh....

Like the AMRAAMS or the AIM9X, who says these are just meant for the Taliban scum. !!!
 
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Buffalo-2.jpg


Very pleasant developments. Especially of the Buffalo EOD.

And are the rockets on the M270 gonna be guided?



I'm sure the rockets of the M270 mlrs could be modded for guidance. Although that shouldn't be a problem because the m270 can be angled to hit specific targets at varying distances, PA just needs to train and practice and they will have good ground force projection.
 
Like the AMRAAMS or the AIM9X, who says these are just meant for the Taliban scum. !!!

Good point! Think to help Pakistan's wars against Talibans with something else weapons but M270s is good for other known opponent. :D

I'm sure the rockets of the M270 mlrs could be modded for guidance. Although that shouldn't be a problem because the m270 can be angled to hit specific targets at varying distances, PA just needs to train and practice and they will have good ground force projection.

I fear it will change their minds that it may will not send to Pakistan from Jordan. Not Guarantee yet. Let's see more speculations.
 
Pakistan should deal with the US to provide PA a batch of M1A1 Abrams. Imagine PA in M1A1 Abrams :coffee:
 
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