US officials in Turkey to promise delivery of F-35 If Turkey cancel S-400

[cabatli_53]

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[monitor]

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It seems Trump administration adamant to stop turkey from buying s-400 . Without canceling s-400 deal F-35 would delayed until Trump gone or totally scrap the sales.

 

[war&peace]

Why USA has such double standards?... it is allowing India to buy S-400 and still offering it sensitive technology while stopping Turkey from doing so.

 

[Dante80]

Why USA as such a double standards... it is allowing India to buy S-400 and still offering it sensitive technology while stopping Turkey from doing so.

India is not a NATO country and has not bought the F-35. I'm guessing that part of the reason for this debacle is that the US does not want the two systems to live together in the same armed force.

 

[YeBeWarned]

is it just me or US is crying like a B!tch ? or its just Blackmailing

 

[Mucahit]

If the Americans are willing to pay the compensation money for canceling S-400 order and offer Patriots at a convenient price why not? We're already building our own defense systems they only need 4-5 years to mature but we also work with several European companies to develop another system as well. The Patriots would surely fill the current gap for at least a few years.

Let's not forget, Turkey declared interest in Russian & Chinese arms after US refused to sell these weapons to its ally.

 

[Sinnerman108]

If the Americans are willing to pay the compensation money for canceling S-400 order and offer Patriots at a convenient price why not? We're already building our own defense systems they only need 4-5 years to mature but we also work with several European companies to develop another system as well. The Patriots would surely fill the current gap for at least a few years.

Let's not forget, Turkey declared interest in Russian & Chinese arms after US refused to sell these weapons to its ally.

YES NOT !

Americans systems do not work, if Americans do not want them to work.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

I think this offer get turned down by Turkey. This ain't a deal. It's a threat. Turkey is a sovereign state, not a puppet state.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

western aircafts like rafales and f16, f18 won't be facing any problems, if integrated with S 400.

note: the country doing so should be India.

 

[Basel]

Why USA as such a double standards... it is allowing India to buy S-400 and still offering it sensitive technology while stopping Turkey from doing so.

They in past allowed Greece (NATO member) to buy S-300.

 

[Sheepistanis]

Turkey is better off without it, it's over priced and in all probabilities Turkey will be handed a watered-down version. Italy and Britain have already shown plans for a replacement, for Turkey to pursue a newer program would be more doable.

 

[war&peace]

India is not a NATO country and has not bought the F-35. I'm guessing that part of the reason for this debacle is that the US does not want the two systems to live together in the same armed force.

That's a lame excuse.

 

[Dante80]

They in past allowed Greece (NATO member) to buy S-300.

That was a very different situation, since Greece never wanted to buy the S-300. Cyprus bought it and then NATO forced the system to us so that Cyprus wouldn't field it. NATO also made an official proclamation to Russia that the system would not be studied due to Greece fielding it.

That's a lame excuse.

And they need one. My hunch is that even if this particular problem goes away and Turkey doesn't buy the S-400, the US will find another excuse to delay the F-35 program.

Turkey should not budge on this. It was shown since the T-loramids program ten years ago that US is using NATO and its defense industry weight to force political solutions to this part of the procurement industry. S-400 is objectively better than the current export Patriot system.

 

[war&peace]

That was a very different situation, since Greece never wanted to buy the S-300. Cyprus bought it and then NATO forced the system to us so that Cyprus wouldn't field it. NATO also made an official proclamation to Russia that the system would not be studied due to Greece fielding it.



And they need one. My hunch is that even if this particular problem goes away and Turkey doesn't buy the S-400, the US will find another excuse to delay the F-35 program.

Turkey should not budge on this. It was shown since the T-loramids program ten years ago that US is using NATO and its defense industry weight to force political solutions to this part of the procurement industry. S-400 is objectively better than the current export Patriot system.

Exactly..also F-35 is a system with strings... though Turkey has been a part of the program and played a key role in its development.... Turkey has its own TFX and. if it allocates more resources to the program, it can really progress it on faster pace. Also Russian options are there...

 

[Mucahit]

Turkey is better off without it, it's over priced and in all probabilities Turkey will be handed a watered-down version. Italy and Britain have already shown plans for a replacement, for Turkey to pursue a newer program would be more doable.

That's what I'm saying. Even if it's a normal version without integrating to other systems it won't function with full capacity. It's also very expensive.