raptor22
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American interventionist foreign policy is obvious to anybody. But TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT.
Iran did its best to hurt US-led forces in Iraq by supporting and arming anti-US Iraqi Shia militias (Muqatada al-Sadr's Mehdi Army being a notable example), but US-led forces overcame all manner of Iraqi insurgency by 2008, and Muqatada al-Sadr fled to Iran consequently until the situation in Iraq cooled-off and then Iraqi PM Nouri al-Maliki assured Muqatada al-Sadr of safety in Iraq on the condition that he will abandon militia politics which the latter seemingly did. Numerous Americans [openly] perceive Iran as being responsible for the deaths of hundreds of US troops in Iraq during the period (2004 - 2008).
Operation Inherent Resolve (Syrian chapter) have also ended recently. Therefore, US is ready for Iran at this stage. Trump administration timed its decision to declare IRGC a terrorist organization accordingly.
Although I find the aforementioned decision in bad taste. Let us hope that sanity prevails, but Iran needs to revisit its interventionist foreign policy as well.
American troops had left Iraq in 2011.
FYI: https://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/19/world/middleeast/last-convoy-of-american-troops-leaves-iraq.html
They came back to Iraq in 2014 to defeat ISIS (Operation Inherent Resolve).
Though some headcases inside the american regime like fatty & Pampaliniis are after some form of confrontation by Iran but the whole direction is about leaving the region, a full scale war with Iran is just moving in opposite way and in the line of China and Russia interests. that's why they are desperately after the deal of century, creating the so-called Arabian NATO & another comprehensive deal with Iran .. in fact they're after closing all these unsolved dossiers once for all to be able to focus on somewhere else.. and let their regional pawns do the job on behalf of them (selling weapons, weaking regional countries by endless war, preventing bad image, reduction in military expenditure)... that's why some sicks (the same whom encouraged americans to attack Iran in 2007-8) had some bad intentions a while ago which led IRGC to hold the drills of drones and also offensive one in Persian gulf resulting in them to chicken out ...
It's true that americans are war-mangoes in way that has been only in peace for 16 years of their entire history & spent the rest in war attacking others, slaving them, took their lands, nuking civilians but they are not stupid .. Iran war is last thing a sensible person would wish for, what they do is using it as a hammer for simpletons to make them give what they want which doesn't work on Iran ... in fact one of the reason that persuaded Obama to have a deal with Iran next to Iran nuclear program fast advance were the intelligence reports and assessments that Iran's leaders were ready to engage in a full scale war as tension were rising around Iran nuclear program something that american regime doesn't like due to unpredictability of Iran's respons and its proportion which could be spread to whole region ... putting IRGC on list is nothing new in fact Quds forces were on the list since 2007 and nothing has happened, Quds forces & american terrorists troops were in Iraq in the same time to fight isis ... all these happening to make Iran angry to make a wrong decision or move as pretext for EU to abandon deal .. no war is about to happen. Iran is the only country in the region that neither hosts any foreign troops on its soil nor its soil is under attack by anyone also its soil never been used to attack another country,it is Iran brilliant policy that has reversed the plot of surrounding Iran to surrounding isreal. all these huffing & puffing by merica is due to desperation not strength in fact targeting Iran is targeting stability of the region that could bring it to EU zone too.
Trump policy on Iran is max pressure for a better deal not war .. war means Iran armed nuclear state ... Iran would not negotiate any deal 1. with the current administration 2. under pressure ... so this policy has no outcome till 2020 and has failed even they have not been able to zero Iran oil exports and it's reached to the pre sanctions level ... while 1/100 of this pressure on any other country would result in immediate collapse of that Gov. Iran is moving ahead in all areas ...
Saddam,Qaddafi,Al-Qaeda Network isis all played in american ground and when became useless were thrown away ..
"...Iraqis have always suspected that the 1963 military coup that set Saddam Husain on the road to absolute power had been masterminded by the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). New evidence just published reveals that the agency not only engineered the putsch but also supplied the list of people to be eliminated once power was secured--a monstrous stratagem that led to the decimation of Iraq's professional class.
The overthrow of president Abdul Karim Kassim on February 8, 1963 was not, of course, the first intervention in the region by the agency, but it was the bloodiest--far bloodier than the coup it orchestrated in 1953 to restore the shah of Iran to power. Just how gory, and how deep the CIA's involvement in it, is demonstrated in a new book by Said Aburish, a writer on Arab political affairs.
The book, A Brutal Friendship: The West and the Arab Elite (1997), sets out the details not only of how the CIA closely controlled the planning stages but also how it played a central role in the subsequent purge of suspected leftists after the coup.
The author reckons that 5,000 were killed, giving the names of 600 of them--including many doctors, lawyers, teachers and professors who formed Iraq's educated elite. The massacre was carried out on the basis of death lists provided by the CIA..."
CIA-organized regime change was a coup in 1963 that employed political assassination, mass imprisonment, torture and murder. This was the military coup that first brought Saddam Hussein's beloved Ba'ath Party to power in Iraq. At the time, Richard Helms was Director for Plans at the CIA. That is the top CIA position responsible for covert actions, like organizing coups. Helms served in that capacity until 1966, when he was made Director.
In 1959, there was a failed assassination attempt on Qasim. The failed assassin was none other than a young Saddam Hussein.
it was the ClAs favorite coup. We really had the ts crossed on what was happening, James Critchfield, then head of the CIA in the Middle East, told us. We regarded it as a great victory. Iraqi participants later confirmed American involvement. We came to power on a CIA train, admitted Ali Saleh Sa'adi, the Baath Party secretary general who was about to institute an unprecedented reign of terror. CIA assistance reportedly included coordination of the coup plotters from the agency's station inside the U.S. embassy in Baghdad as well as a clandestine radio station in Kuwait and solicitation of advice from around the Middle East on who on the left should be eliminated once the coup was successful
As the CIA lists reached Baghdad the result was a massacre of extraordinary ferocity. Pregnant women and old men were killed, some tortured to death in front of their children. Mr Aburish says: "Saddam Hussein, who had rushed back to Iraq from exile in Cairo to join the victors, was personally involved in the torture of leftists in the separate detention centres for the fellaheen [peasants] and the muthaqafeen, or educated class."
in the 1980s, the United States and Britain helped arm Saddam in his confrontation with Iran only to turn against him over the 1990 Kuwait crisis. When in 1991 the Iraqi people rose against Saddam, the United States was fearful that change would put its majority Shi'ites and thus Iran in power, and US forces stood by as the Republican Guard crushed the rebellion.
The overthrow of president Abdul Karim Kassim on February 8, 1963 was not, of course, the first intervention in the region by the agency, but it was the bloodiest--far bloodier than the coup it orchestrated in 1953 to restore the shah of Iran to power. Just how gory, and how deep the CIA's involvement in it, is demonstrated in a new book by Said Aburish, a writer on Arab political affairs.
The book, A Brutal Friendship: The West and the Arab Elite (1997), sets out the details not only of how the CIA closely controlled the planning stages but also how it played a central role in the subsequent purge of suspected leftists after the coup.
The author reckons that 5,000 were killed, giving the names of 600 of them--including many doctors, lawyers, teachers and professors who formed Iraq's educated elite. The massacre was carried out on the basis of death lists provided by the CIA..."
CIA-organized regime change was a coup in 1963 that employed political assassination, mass imprisonment, torture and murder. This was the military coup that first brought Saddam Hussein's beloved Ba'ath Party to power in Iraq. At the time, Richard Helms was Director for Plans at the CIA. That is the top CIA position responsible for covert actions, like organizing coups. Helms served in that capacity until 1966, when he was made Director.
In 1959, there was a failed assassination attempt on Qasim. The failed assassin was none other than a young Saddam Hussein.
it was the ClAs favorite coup. We really had the ts crossed on what was happening, James Critchfield, then head of the CIA in the Middle East, told us. We regarded it as a great victory. Iraqi participants later confirmed American involvement. We came to power on a CIA train, admitted Ali Saleh Sa'adi, the Baath Party secretary general who was about to institute an unprecedented reign of terror. CIA assistance reportedly included coordination of the coup plotters from the agency's station inside the U.S. embassy in Baghdad as well as a clandestine radio station in Kuwait and solicitation of advice from around the Middle East on who on the left should be eliminated once the coup was successful
As the CIA lists reached Baghdad the result was a massacre of extraordinary ferocity. Pregnant women and old men were killed, some tortured to death in front of their children. Mr Aburish says: "Saddam Hussein, who had rushed back to Iraq from exile in Cairo to join the victors, was personally involved in the torture of leftists in the separate detention centres for the fellaheen [peasants] and the muthaqafeen, or educated class."
in the 1980s, the United States and Britain helped arm Saddam in his confrontation with Iran only to turn against him over the 1990 Kuwait crisis. When in 1991 the Iraqi people rose against Saddam, the United States was fearful that change would put its majority Shi'ites and thus Iran in power, and US forces stood by as the Republican Guard crushed the rebellion.
That's why when Saddam was arrested he called himself president of Iraq .. as he was thinking it's another game of his supporters ... Saddam and entire Iraq couldn't resist more than 20 days .. Hezbollah resisted 33 days and in fact was victorious ...
All you mentioned were dictators or terrorists groups while Iran is a nation revolted & toppled american backed dictator ... comparing them is insane. besides part of Iran influence in Iraq is Iran standing next to Iraqi ppl when others were supporting Saddam .. in fact all those whom were fighting Saddam had no place to take refugee but Iran & that's why many of them speak Persian fluently including current Iraqi president ... it is not 2 wrongs its all other side wrong including usage of DU:
& then they staged this circus:
Like this:
And when I siad they didn't fight isis it wasn't my wordings:
It would be two months before the US came to the aid of Baghdad by launching air strikes to support Iraqi forces defending the capital from Islamic State (IS) advances. Meanwhile, Washington’s arch-rival in the region, Iran, began sending weapons, ammunition, crucial intelligence and senior advisers within 48 hours of the Mosul crisis.
“From the first day, we sent a request to the Americans for training and weapons,” says Gen Qassem Atta, head of the Iraqi National Intelligence Service. “The US excuse for not sending it [help] was to wait for the new government to be established. We had no choice . . . but to go to Iran. We had to defend ourselves.”
“From the first day, we sent a request to the Americans for training and weapons,” says Gen Qassem Atta, head of the Iraqi National Intelligence Service. “The US excuse for not sending it [help] was to wait for the new government to be established. We had no choice . . . but to go to Iran. We had to defend ourselves.”
At the end whatever happens in Iraq would directly impact Iran , what about america?
You should know this world we live in is the world of deception, "Si vis pacem, para bellum".
Leader’s Speech at Imam Ali (a.s.) Military Academy
"..We are not a nation that attacks other countries and nations. We will never start a bloody war. The Iranian nation has proven this. But we are a nation that responds to all kinds of attack and even all kinds of threats with full force and determination. We are not a nation that stands by and watches the fragile materialist powers“ which have been eaten by worms and termites from within “ threaten the steadfast and powerful Iranian nation. We will answer threats with threats. Anybody who thinks of attacking the Islamic Republic of Iran should be prepared to receive strong slaps and iron fists from the Armed Forces, from the Army of the Islamic Republic of Iran, from the Islamic Revolution's Guards Corps and from Basij: all supported by the great Iranian nation. And America, its regional puppets and its guard dog “ the Zionist regime “ should know that the response of the Iranian nation to any kind of aggression, attacks or even threats will be a response that will make them collapse from within..."