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The U.S. Navy’s deck guns could take on new relevance if ongoing tests to fire a guided round at five times the speed of sound from their muzzles are successful, USNI News has learned.

Using rounds initially designed for the service’s emerging electromagnetic railgun, Naval Sea Systems Command are now in early testing phases of using the planned hyper velocity projectile (HVPs) with the service’s existing gunpowder-based deck guns found on almost every U.S. Navy surface ship, NAVSEA told USNI News.

The HVPs from a traditional deck gun will be slower than one launched from a railgun — a little over Mach 5 versus Mach 7 — but still double the speed of an unguided regular shell from the service’s Mk 45 five-inch gun found on its guided missile cruisers and destroyers, according to information from NAVSEA.

While deck guns are standard through out the fleet, they lack the range precision of the guided missiles found on cruisers and destroyers and have had shrinking utility in high-end warfare.

A high speed guided round from a deck gun could give U.S. ships more options to deal with air and ballistic missile threats while the Navy continues to refine the railgun design.

According to a service wish list for railgun applications revealed last year, the Navy wants a “multi-mission railgun weapon system to support detect, track and engagement of ballistic missiles and air and watercraft threats” by 2025.

A guided HVP round from a standard Mk 45 deck gun could bring a significant margin of the railguns promised capabilities to the fleet sooner, USNI News understands.

Unlike standard high-explosive rounds, the speed of the HVPs doesn’t need explosives and relies on the force brought from its speed to destroy targets.

The addition of the HVP to the arsenal could mean instead of sending a Standard Missile to interdict an air threat, a ship could instead fire a much more inexpensive salvo of guided shells from the deck gun to handle an enemy aircraft.

According to NAVSEA, the service is also investigating using HVP in larger guns than the MK 45.

“The round is being designed to be compatible with multiple guns in the U.S. inventory,” read the NAVSEA statement to USNI News.
NAVSEA didn’t specify, but USNI News understands the Navy is looking for alternatives to the $400,000-per-round guided rocket assisted Long Range Land Attack Projectile (LRLAP) fired from the 155mm Advanced Gun System (AGS) of the Zumwalt-class guided missile destroyers (DDG-1000).

Testing for the inclusion of the HVP in standard is ongoing and a timeframe as-of-yet for completion hasn’t been established. Likewise, there is no program of record for the effort yet, NAVSEA said.

Both BAE Systems and General Atomics have worked with the service on railgun and projectile technology, though NAVSEA did not specify any companies working on the effort.

“This is a government-led effort, and we are working to involve a number of different defense contractors at this stage,” NAVSEA said.

A BAE Systems designed railgun will undergo a first round of at-sea testing next year.

Navy Researching Firing Mach 5 Guided Round from Standard Deck Guns - USNI News
 
Excellent! The USN should stay armed to the teeth to take on future aggressors.
 
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The U.S. Navy’s deck guns could take on new relevance if ongoing tests to fire a guided round at five times the speed of sound from their muzzles are successful, USNI News has learned.

Using rounds initially designed for the service’s emerging electromagnetic railgun, Naval Sea Systems Command are now in early testing phases of using the planned hyper velocity projectile (HVPs) with the service’s existing gunpowder-based deck guns found on almost every U.S. Navy surface ship, NAVSEA told USNI News.

The HVPs from a traditional deck gun will be slower than one launched from a railgun — a little over Mach 5 versus Mach 7 — but still double the speed of an unguided regular shell from the service’s Mk 45 five-inch gun found on its guided missile cruisers and destroyers, according to information from NAVSEA.

While deck guns are standard through out the fleet, they lack the range precision of the guided missiles found on cruisers and destroyers and have had shrinking utility in high-end warfare.

A high speed guided round from a deck gun could give U.S. ships more options to deal with air and ballistic missile threats while the Navy continues to refine the railgun design.

According to a service wish list for railgun applications revealed last year, the Navy wants a “multi-mission railgun weapon system to support detect, track and engagement of ballistic missiles and air and watercraft threats” by 2025.

A guided HVP round from a standard Mk 45 deck gun could bring a significant margin of the railguns promised capabilities to the fleet sooner, USNI News understands.

Unlike standard high-explosive rounds, the speed of the HVPs doesn’t need explosives and relies on the force brought from its speed to destroy targets.

The addition of the HVP to the arsenal could mean instead of sending a Standard Missile to interdict an air threat, a ship could instead fire a much more inexpensive salvo of guided shells from the deck gun to handle an enemy aircraft.

According to NAVSEA, the service is also investigating using HVP in larger guns than the MK 45.

“The round is being designed to be compatible with multiple guns in the U.S. inventory,” read the NAVSEA statement to USNI News.
NAVSEA didn’t specify, but USNI News understands the Navy is looking for alternatives to the $400,000-per-round guided rocket assisted Long Range Land Attack Projectile (LRLAP) fired from the 155mm Advanced Gun System (AGS) of the Zumwalt-class guided missile destroyers (DDG-1000).

Testing for the inclusion of the HVP in standard is ongoing and a timeframe as-of-yet for completion hasn’t been established. Likewise, there is no program of record for the effort yet, NAVSEA said.

Both BAE Systems and General Atomics have worked with the service on railgun and projectile technology, though NAVSEA did not specify any companies working on the effort.

“This is a government-led effort, and we are working to involve a number of different defense contractors at this stage,” NAVSEA said.

A BAE Systems designed railgun will undergo a first round of at-sea testing next year.

Navy Researching Firing Mach 5 Guided Round from Standard Deck Guns - USNI News


Amazing! Always thought there must be a better way to fire guided projectiles than to use inefficient rockets!

On a side note, please don't let this technology fall prey to the Chinese espionage. Not only is not good for US, it will be devastating when the Chinese inevitably field it against India.
 
On a side note, please don't let this technology fall prey to the Chinese espionage.

The majority of Chinese espionage incidents date to around 2008, when China was known to penetrate less-valuable (non-classified) parts of F-35, THAAD, PAC-3 and other programs - classified info was found to be unaffected.

Links like these, and its accompanying story from Der Spiegel, might be alarmist, but the info presented dates back to 2008 - it doesn't represent a new threat, despite being a more recent article and supported by more recent info, leaks from the NSA.

Snowden: Chinese hackers stole F-35 fighter jet blueprints - NY Daily News

Now that defense contractors and the Pentagon have locked-down their systems, Chinese hackers have turned towards US Academia, which also helps with US R&D:

Chinese Hackers Force Penn State to Unplug Engineering Computers - Bloomberg Business

Since 2008, Chinese hacking of US military contractors or the US military itself have yielded nothing of value. The US military and its contractors take their cyber security very seriously.
 
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The majority of Chinese espionage incidents date to around 2008, when China was known to penetrate less-valuable (non-classified) parts of F-35, THAAD, PAC-3 and other programs - classified info was found to be unaffected.

Links like these, and its accompanying story from Der Spiegel, might be alarmist, but the info presented dates back to 2008 - it doesn't represent a new threat, despite being a more recent article and supported by more recent info, leaks from the NSA.

Snowden: Chinese hackers stole F-35 fighter jet blueprints - NY Daily News

Now that defense contractors and the Pentagon have locked-down their systems, Chinese hackers have turned towards US Academia, which also helps with US R&D:

Chinese Hackers Force Penn State to Unplug Engineering Computers - Bloomberg Business

Since 2008, Chinese hacking of US military contractors or the US military itself have yielded nothing of value. The US military and its contractors take their cyber security very seriously.

I hope you are right, but the recent hack of all the US government employees files was not a little thing.
 
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