US must 'get used to China's rise'

[Beast]

will USA invade Canada or Mexico? No

US force mexico to concede california and new mexico.

 

[BoQ77]

US force mexico to concede california and new mexico.

how old is that act ?

 

[Beast]

how old is that act ?

Does it matter how old or new,is it?

 

[tranquilium]

how old is that act ?

It was 1800s, where US was "rising", very similar to China today really. You have British Empire as the superpower of the day that backs Canada and Mexico in their fight against US and you have the "international" community that backs the superpower officially, but isn't actually going to lift an actual finger. Canada and Mexico have to get use to it eventually. I don't see how this one will turnout differently.

BTW, if you are looking for a recent example, there is the Canada/USA petroleum importation agree where Canada is forced to supply US petroleum at reduced price, well below the market price in Canada itself. Of course, Mexico is practically cash land for CIA's drug operations.

 

[NiceGuy]

China rise ?? The fastest rise in China is terrorism with car bombing , knife stabbing every where bcz its incompetent Govt. dont have enough money to stop terrorist

 

[Beast]

China rise ?? The fastest rise in China is terrorism with car bombing , knife stabbing every where bcz its incompetent Govt. dont have enough money to stop terrorist

The fastest rise of Vietnam poverty with humilitation cancellation of Asian game 2019. High inflated rates and a dwindling national reserve. Vietnam and India can go hold hand in hand.

 

[NiceGuy]

The fastest rise of Vietnam poverty with humilitation cancellation of Asian game 2019. High inflated rates and a dwindling national reserve. Vietnam and India can go hold hand in hand.

We dont have any frozen and starving kids died in trash bin like in China.

And we poor coz we have to fight hard to unite our country first when TW of China still under US control and never have a chance to take back

 

[Ganges Zephyr]

The fastest rise of Vietnam poverty with humilitation cancellation of Asian game 2019. High inflated rates and a dwindling national reserve. Vietnam and India can go hold hand in hand.

You have three fingers at you LOL

 

[tranquilium]

We dont have any frozen and starving kids died in trash bin like in China.

And we poor coz we have to fight hard to unite our country first when TW of China still under US control and never have a chance to take back

Global hunger index: see how the world compares. Spreadsheet and visualised | Global development | theguardian.com

The global hunger index disagree with you. Seriously, why would you even use starvation as a topic? China isn't quite a developed country yet, so it still have some hunger (even the developed countries do), but Vietnam's economy isn't even remotely on the same level as China and there is no way Vietnam can match China in these parameters.

 

[BoQ77]

We dont have any frozen and starving kids died in trash bin like in China.

And we poor coz we have to fight hard to unite our country first when TW of China still under US control and never have a chance to take back

don't insult each other ... let discuss, argue with evidence and sharp argument ...
let's share useful information ( opinion, attention, interest, fear ... ).

At this moment, what Xi said about one Asia, nearly meaningless with Vietnamese average people, they tend to follow Japan and USA, France ...
Taiwan has some votes of Vietnam. to Vietnamese people feeling now, China is the most ugly neighbor

 

[A1Kaid]

..In an effort to use China against the USSR. And don't forget the G2 proposal, the bait which the US once again entice us to align against Russia, but who are they kidding.

In an effort to establish a cheap labor manufacturing hub. It was private US companies and manufacturers that set up their base in China which brought billions in investment and millions of jobs to China.

 

[tranquilium]

In an effort to establish a cheap labor manufacturing hub. It was private US companies and manufacturers that set up their base in China which brought billions in investment and millions of jobs to China.

Erm, that's a rather common misconception. US investment is never the dominant investment in China, nor is US investment the primary factor in Chinese growth or job creation. Historically, China's biggest partner would be Taiwan and Hong Kong. After those two, it would be Japan, South Korea and after those are France, Germany, etc. Nowadays China are branching out with Southeast Asia, Africa occupying increasingly larger portion of Chinese trade and investment.

In term of technological transfer, China also mainly deal with Russian, EU, Japan, etc rather than US because a number of treaties. US does outsource a lot of stuff, but the primarily destination would be Mexico, Latin American nations. Basically, US and China's economic tie is still pretty large, but it is certainly not as large as people making it out to be.

 

[Mao1949]

Erm, that's a rather common misconception. US investment is never the dominant investment in China, nor is US investment the primary factor in Chinese growth or job creation. Historically, China's biggest partner would be Taiwan and Hong Kong. After those two, it would be Japan, South Korea and after those are France, Germany, etc. Nowadays China are branching out with Southeast Asia, Africa occupying increasingly larger portion of Chinese trade and investment.

In term of technological transfer, China also mainly deal with Russian, EU, Japan, etc rather than US because a number of treaties. US does outsource a lot of stuff, but the primarily destination would be Mexico, Latin American nations. Basically, US and China's economic tie is still pretty large, but it is certainly not as large as people making it out to be.

Mainland China got investment and technology from Taiwan and Hong Kong.
The US media has brainwashed the world into thinking China's rise was due to US. US refused to transfer technology and it's accumulated investment is small compared to others. US opened its markets but so did every other country. Chinese exports to the US only account for 18% of total Chinese exports. China is now an economy that is driven by investment. 50% of the economy is investment and 60% of the GDP growth comes from investment.

 

[Informant]

That's a sugercoated word for 'bullying'.

I know and they're doing what anyone with power does. US, Russia, EU, India as well but just not successful enough.

 

[Oldman1]

That's pretty much how nations worked throughout history. One country is growing faster and becomes stronger than its neighbors and the neighbors have to either find a way to catch up or accept it and bend over. That's really how every empire, superpower came about.

Good to know that China is showing its true colors.

Yeah, I am sure war of 1812 means nothing to you. Fun fact, Texas used to belong Mexico and US won it in a war with Mexico. In fact, I actually have US, Canada and Mexico in mind in my original statement. When US was found in 1776, it was a fraction of its current size and over the next 200 year fought a number of wars with its neighbors over territory, but eventually Canada and Mexico could not keep up with US' growth and have to bend over.

The thing is, for the vast majority of human history Vietnam has bent over before the dominant regional power,I honestly don't see why it would be different today.

Learn your history again. The Texans won its independence from Mexico and approved by Santa Anna and asked to be part of the U.S. Most of our territories we bought from France, Spain, and Russia. Besides the conflict with Mexico. Oh I forgot to include that even though we defeated Mexico, we still paid for those territories as well.