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US might strike in Pakistan:White House

If you can’t beat them, buy them


Ref:http://thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=9250

By Rauf Klasra

LONDON: The Americans threatening to launch attacks in Pakistan’s tribal areas, have been advised to use "money" to buy the loyalties of the tribal chiefs instead of bombing them to turn them against al-Qaeda operatives, as Washington has already done in one Iraqi province by buying Muslim fighters.

It is being feared here that any American attack on the tribal areas—as predicted by Washington—might hasten the fall of the Musharraf regime, which according to a new assessment, has already weakened its position, after the restoration of chief justice of Pakistan. As if this was not enough, Benazir Bhutto has announced to end her ongoing negotiations to share power after the general elections of 2007.

The British foreign secretary David Miliband's visit to Pakistan to discuss the al-Qaeda issue with President Musharraf, has also generated a lot of interest in the British media.

The Guardian in its editorial has pointed out that the task at hand of Miliband was Pakistan's record in its fight against al-Qaeda and one which a British foreign secretary can do little about. Last week a US national intelligence estimate concluded that al-Qaeda had built a safe haven in the tribal areas of Pakistan and ever since war drums are being beaten, not least in the liberal columns of the Washington Post, for US forces to take action.

It writes that it is the last thing that the Pakistani president, Pervez Musharraf, needs right now. The threat is that if Pakistan's forces fail to uproot al-Qaeda in Waziristan, US forces will. There are several problems with the assumption that US commandos can be any more successful than Pakistani ones in classic guerrilla country.[/B] US Predator drones have been hitting, and missing, al-Qaeda targets across the tribal areas for the last two years, and each time buildings have been levelled and innocents killed the Pakistani Army has had no option but to claim responsibility to avoid the charge that it is letting foreign forces operate on its territory. If Washington removed that fig leaf by taking overt action, it would only boost anti-Americanism and cement the president's image as a US loyalist.

The Guardian writes that there was a national consensus behind the storming of the Red Mosque. That would be lost if American forces joined the action. "Instead of bombing the tribal chiefs, their strategy should be to buy them off, as they have done in Anbar province of Iraq," it advises the Americans.

Pakistan claims that if it received actionable intelligence on al-Qaeda targets, the country would make use of it. Either the US does not have it, or it is reluctant to hand it over. Either way, the suspicion is that the military does not trust its counterparts in Pakistan's intelligence service.

It says Musharraf has a major political battle ahead after the reinstatement of the chief justice. "The surest way to hasten the general's demise would be to deploy forces on his patch," The Guardian warns the Americans.
 
Musharraf firmly rejects US strike threats

Afp, Islamabad

The Daily Star - July 28, 2007

Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf yesterday firmly rejected US threats to strike militants holed up near the Afghan border, saying that American forces will not be allowed to operate in the area.

Military ruler Musharraf's remarks come amid mounting anger at warnings from key ally Washington that it will not allow Osama bin Laden's rejuvenated terror network to use the South Asian nation's frontier regions as a safe haven.

"Inside Pakistani territory only Pakistani forces will operate and they are fully capable of performing this task," Musharraf told reporters as he left for a visit to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.

"We are fighting extremism and terrorism in our national interest and we do not have to please anyone," state media quoted him as saying.

Musharraf also rejected the US allegations that al-Qaeda is regrouping in Pakistan's rugged tribal belt, where hundreds of Islamic militants took shelter after US-led forces overthrew Afghanistan's Taliban regime in 2001.

"A small number of al-Qaeda elements present in the area are on the run and we are pursuing them," the president said.

Pakistan has bristled against the recent string of US threats of strikes against al-Qaeda, calling them "irresponsible and dangerous", while hundreds of people have fled the tribal zone fearing military action.

The country has been gripped by a wave of suicide attacks and other militant violence since a bloody army operation to clear militants from Islamabad's Red Mosque earlier this month. More than 200 people have died in the attacks.

Senior US State Department troubleshooter Nicholas Burns said this week that Washington would retain the option of targeting Osama bin Laden's terror group in Pakistani-Afghan border areas in some circumstances.

The White House's top counter-terrorism official Frances Townsend on Sunday caused a stir by refusing to rule out a military incursion into the remote Pakistani regions close to the border with Afghanistan.

http://www.thedailystar.net/2007/07/28/d70728130194.htm
 
Geo Tv
Programme: "Meray Mutabiq" by Dr. Shahis Masood.
telecast on Saturday 28, 2007 10:00pm-11:00pm

Dr.Shahid Masood phoned the General Aslam Baig ex-Army Chief. General Aslam told Dr. Shahid that Pakistan Government ordered Pakistan Air Force to responed :sniper: if any air violation takeplace by usa by using force. in response of Dr. Shahid Masood's question is PAF capable to responed USA, he answered that PAF has no one but many capabilities to responed he also added that Pakistan is not Afghanistan who has no airforce or Iraq whose air force was on ground. he also told to Dr. Shaid Masood That some tribal leaders also announce that they will also responed with force to any attack against tribal areas by USA forces.
:pakistan: :pakistan: :pakistan:
 
Some people says that musharraf is America's Agent:confused:
is that right ??
 
From an Indian Perspective, Musharraf is a boon and a bane.
While from a Pakistani perspective musharaf is definitly a boon. Musharraf in the american case you mentioned, the best for his country. These mullah's want pakistan turned into an Afghanistan, a savage barren land, where they go in toyota pick up trucks killing each other. Musharaf to some extend has saved you from that.
 
Time is passing out for Pakistan due to the wrong and US dictated policies of Musharraf. At this point the govt of Pakistan must act tough in best interest of Pakistan and oppose firmly any aerial or ground attack from US or NATO forces. Despite all the weaknesses we must believe firmly in Allah and take bold steps. US with all its might is not able to touch Iran and Iranian leadership is firmly standing with the help of God.
US has already given too much free hand, whether its the capture of Al Qaida leadership or sealing the border with Afghanistan etc. There interest can not be same as the interests of Pakistan. One by one they will offer an unending list of demands comletely compromising the interests of Pakistan e.g. Assist us in any future attack on Iran, send military to Iraq or Afghanistan, close down the Islamic schools, throw out those verses of quran from the syllabus of islamic studies which teach about Jihad, Jews & Christian, Chastity(As they have done in case of Egypt), Accept Israel as a legitimate State without the creation of Palestine and so on. If we believe firmly in Allah, then no power on earth can bow us or eliminate us.

Fanoos ban ke jiski hifazat hawa kare
O shamma kya bujhe jise roshan Khuda kare.

Al Quran says: "They (think to) deceive Allâh and those who believe, while they only deceive themselves, and perceive (it) not! In their hearts is a disease (of doubt and hypocrisy) and Allâh has increased their disease. A painful torment is theirs because they used to tell lies. And when it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "We are only peacemakers." Verily! They are the ones who make mischief, but they perceive not."
Quran 2: 9-12
 
Losing United States for Pakistan.....that is like walking straight into India's traps
 
Losing United States for Pakistan.....that is like walking straight into India's traps

Yes but isn't China also an ally of Pakistan and there are also better relations with Russia. A balance is emerging but it requires a Pakistani leader and statesmen to use it to the country's best advantage.
 
Draft US 9/11 law could harm relations: Pakistan

Afp, Islamabad

The Daily Star - July 30, 2007

Draft US anti-terrorism legislation could undermine relations with Pakistan because of its allegations about terrorist safe havens and nuclear proliferation networks, the foreign ministry said.

The US Congress Friday approved a bill to implement key anti-terrorism recommendations of the independent probe into the September 11 attacks in 2001 that will become law if President George W Bush signs it.

Pakistan says the new law could undermine relations between the "war on terror" allies because it contained "unsubstantiated" allegations.

"The draft bill... contains references and provisions that cast a shadow on the existing cooperation between Pakistan and US," the ministry said in a statement at the weekend.

"Regardless of the fact that the bill emphasises the importance attached by the United States to long-term strategic relationship with Pakistan... the bill is disappointing from Pakistan's point of view," it said.

It said references in the bill relating to the existence of so-called terrorist "safe havens" or "proliferation networks" in Pakistan were unsubstantiated and already rejected by Islamabad.

"Inclusion of these references in the bill cannot contribute to the trust that is necessary for the stated US objective to establish a strategic relationship with Pakistan."

Pakistan said the bill which linked US aid to the South Asian country for its performance in the fight against terrorism could damage ties between the two countries just like the 1985 Pressler Amendment on nuclear proliferation in South Asia which banned most economic and military assistance to Pakistan.

"Conditionalities have been introduced for the continuation of US security assistance to Pakistan which is primarily aimed at capacity building in counter-terrorism. This is reminiscent of the infamous Pressler Amendment."

The draft bill comes at a time when Pakistan is already upset by US threats to strike militants holed up near the Afghan border.

President Pervez Musharraf on Friday firmly rejected US statements about attacking militants on its soil saying American forces would not be allowed to operate in the area.

Musharraf also rejected US allegations that Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda terror network was regrouping in Pakistan's rugged tribal belt, where hundreds of Islamic militants took shelter after US-led forces overthrew Afghanistan's Taliban regime in 2001.

http://www.thedailystar.net/2007/07/30/d707301303135.htm

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Musharraf in charge, peace process on course

Says Narayanan

Indo-asian news service, New Delhi

The Daily Star - July 30, 2007

The volatility and instability in Pakistan have neither dented President Pervez Musharraf's influence and credibility nor affected the peace process between New Delhi and Islamabad, National Security Adviser MK Narayanan said.

"There is some progress. Progress has always been slow, it's incremental, but it has not stopped," Narayanan told CNN-IBN news channel in an interview telecast Sunday when asked to comment on the impression that the peace process between India and Pakistan has been in abeyance for the last four months.

"Yes, we could always argue it could go faster but the point is that it has not stopped," Narayanan told Karan Thapar in the interview.

There has been certainly no hiccup in the relationship, he stressed.

Narayanan underlined that although India was "concerned" about the volatility in Pakistan that was sparked four months ago by the suspension of Chief Justice Iftikhar Mohammed Chaudhry, it has not made a "major dent" in President Muhsarraf's influence and he remained very much a man India can do business with.

"I think the chief justice issue was something that could have snowballed but it didn't. He managed to rectify the situation, if I may say so, by going by the Supreme Court's verdict," Narayanan said.

"I think the very fact that the Pakistani president and establishment have accepted the verdict, with grace, if I might say so, has certainly contributed," he added.

Asked about his perception of the threat to India from Pakistan in the context of the shimmering instability in that country that was underlined by the standoff between the government and Lal Masjid clerics this month, Narayanan chose to see the brighter side and said it showed Pakistan was waking up to the problem of extremist forces being encouraged.

"I think the sort of volatility we are now seeing in Pakistan will encourage them (to cooperate). I think Pakistan is now beginning to recognise the danger of encouraging forces of this kind."

Significantly, Narayanan said that infiltration across the Line of Control that divides Jammu and Kashmir had "come down appreciably" after a spurt in April and added that infiltration through other sectors like Bangladesh and Nepal are far more serious although not enough attention is being paid to it.

Narayanan also chose to take a more positive view of the anti-terror institutional mechanism that was set up over 10 months ago between India and Pakistan amid much controversy and said that although the start was slow he was hopeful that by the second or third meeting it "will make some progress".

http://www.thedailystar.net/2007/07/30/d707301301133.htm
 
The Daily Star report does not mention the factors in this bill which is not in the interest of Pakistan.

What exactly are those?
 
Sir,

I haven't seen any bill that is in our interest lately, it seems that US legislation is targetting us on every front!

I sincerely wonder how GoP can continue to be an ally and a target of US at the same time. :disagree:
 
I could say that for India also.

The nuke deal too is not in the interest of India. So are the rules for Indians working in the USA. I believe it is HI or something.

We must understand that the US protects its own interest always and every time. It is for us to accept or reject it. After all, why are we so bothered about what the US does or does not do.

I am of the opinion that whatever be our countries state, it is for us to plod and slog on our own steam and rise to wherever we have to go.

China has not bothered about what the US feels and she was no industrial giant earlier. It was through faith in her ability that she has reached where she has reached. I will, at the same time, concede that she had the advantage that she was and still is not, a democracy unlike us.

Democracy is an excellent thing, but for the sake of liberty, we have to sacrifice a lot. If Pakistan did not have a democracy or the freedom that it has, would Lal Mazjid become an issue? Musharraf would have snuffed out terrorism in a minute, make Pakistan stable and none would be wiser!
 
Sir,

I haven't seen any bill that is in our interest lately, it seems that US legislation is targetting us on every front!

I sincerely wonder how GoP can continue to be an ally and a target of US at the same time. :disagree:

Realistically though, as long as the U.S is mired in Afghanistan, is there really any chance that the provisions in the bill, related to the cut off of funding etc. to Pakistan if not certified as progressing in certain areas, will actually be implemented? Will a sitting U.S president actually act to cut off funding to Pakistan, knowing that such a move would mean that the only way NATO could deal with the situation in the Tribal areas is by conducting operations in Pakistan? And after having funding cut off, Pakistan is probably not going to be in the mood to acquiesce to such moves, considering that they are not enthusiastic about them now.

The most realistic scenario would probably be stepped up operations in the Tribal areas by Pakistan, democratic elections bringing in a "popular leader" (BB), and every one goes home happy that Pakistan is "progressing " in the key areas mentioned.
 

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