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WASHINGTON: Several members of the US Congress launched on Wednesday a multi-pronged attack on Pakistan, questioning its policies and priorities.

Pakistan had to bear this humiliation for the $742 million that the Obama administration has proposed for the country in the next fiscal year. The lawmakers suggested using this money somewhere else.

Two US officials, Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan Richard Olson and US Agency for International Development’s Donald Sampler, made feeble attempts to defend the proposed aid but they could not match the angry legislators.

Congresswoman Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, who chaired the hearing of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, set the tone, with a frontal attack on Pakistan.

Administration’s proposed financial assistance to Islamabad opposed
“The Taliban operate freely because Pakistan refuses to take action against them inside its borders,” she said while calling Pakistan “a direct contributor to the Taliban success”.

“It makes little sense to continue giving Pakistan billions of dollars if it’s going to continue to work against our interests,” she said, urging the US administration to “leverage our aid” to make Pakistan “a better regional partner with Afghanistan”.

Ambassador Olson reminded the lawmaker that Pakistan was at a strategic crossroads and had made great progress over the past couple of years in addressing its domestic counter-terrorism priorities.

Pakistan had also taken robust action against those groups, principally the Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan, that threaten Pakistanis, he added.

But the US administration had “made very clear at the highest levels” that “there is considerable room for improvement in the application” of targeting all terrorist groups without any discrimination, said the senior US diplomat.

“We believe in particular that Pakistan has not taken as vigorous action against groups that threaten its neighbours as it has against those that threaten it domestically.”

Ambassador Olson said that Pakistan now had to make a strategic choice, “with the Taliban having refused to come to the table, it seems to us that it is time to address more robustly the question of groups that threaten Afghanistan”.

But Congresswoman Ros-Lehtinen disagreed. “We need to leverage our military sales to Pakistan in order to get some more cooperation within the region,” she said.

Congressmen Matt Salmon and Brad Sherman reminded the administration that Congress had, in the recent past, withheld US aid to Pakistan because it was still holding Dr Shakil Afridi, who assisted US efforts in tracking down Osama bin Laden and later was jailed for 23 years for alleged links to terrorist groups.

By keeping Dr Afridi in prison, the Pakistani government was “thumbing their nose to the United States and the people of the United States”, said a third lawmaker, Dana Rohrabacher.

“Should we look for any other possible restrictions?” asked Mr Salmon, who chairs the House Subcommittee on Asia and the Pacific.

“What would be the Pakistani response if we cut all aid until Dr Afridi was released?” asked Mr Sherman.

Mr Sampler told the lawmaker that the administration shared his sense of outrage with regard to the plight of Dr Afridi and had raised this issue at the very highest levels.

“We have requested the release of Dr Afridi and we continually request updates on his health and his status,” he said while reminding the lawmaker that the tactics he suggested had not yielded any results.

But the congressman said that Pakistan should “take a second and third and fourth look at the incarceration of this man and look to his expedited release,” if it wanted to improve its ties with the US.

Congressman Salmon also raised the issue of the Panama leaks at the hearing, noting that Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s family was named in those papers.

Mr Sampler refused to offer direct comments on Panama papers, but assured the lawmaker that the US was “in favour of greater financial transparency”.

Ambassador Olson said that the US had established a hotline in Pakistan to ensure that American financial assistance was not misappropriated.

Congressman Sherman asked why had the US administration routinely declined to certify that Pakistan was cooperating with the United States on action against the Haqqani Network and others.

“We have long had concerns about the fact that despite Pakistan having a stated policy of not discriminating between terrorist groups and the application of that policy, they have in fact not moved against actors that threaten their neighbours,” Mr Sampler replied.

Congressman Rohrabacher, known in Washington for his anti-Pakistan rhetoric, claimed that Islamabad was “killing the Baloch by the thousands and attacking their neighbours with the supporting terrorist incursions into India”.

“What more can Pakistan do that would have us cut off the military aid?” he asked.

Link: Published in Dawn, April 29th, 2016
 
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Pakistan had to bear this humiliation for the $742 million that the Obama administration has proposed for the country in the next fiscal year. The lawmakers suggested using this money somewhere else.
This humiliation is acceptable because it helps us get more F-16s :lol:
Koe dusra hota to uski maa behn ek kardi jati.
And you'll see all the "Qoumi Ghairatmands" running away from this thread.
 
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Although I have posted the same on the comments section of DAWN. I wanted to share my thoughts here as well.

What more does the Government of Pakistan and the PakMil require to sever all military ties with the US? The list:
1. Continued sale of highest grade military equipment to India, which is mostly Pakistan specific.
2. Continued and blatant rhetoric against Pakistan at all forums, foreign and domestic.
3. Humiliation of Pakistan and Pakistanis and continuation of calling the CSF as Aid.
4. Lack of acknowledgement and lack of respect for the 75k lives and over USD 120 Billion lost by Pakistan due to the US TERROR WAR!!
5. Continued ruckus, propaganda and diplomacy in favor of India and against the interests of Pakistan.
6. Lack of acknowledgement of the fact that the US would have been in no position to put boots on the ground, or would have done so at a much higher and unacceptable risk of KIA's, had Pakistan declined to support the US in their WAR OF TERROR!!
7. Weight of benefits of extreme support to US interests are far outweighed by the losses continued to be incurred by Pakistan.
8. The fact that US has always been a back stabber, that the US lawmakers are neither responsive nor sympathetic to the plights of Pakistan and the boundaries that Pakistan has to live with. That their vision is one sided, deluded and nonsense. That, Pakistan to them is just a vendor hired to carry out tasks without regards to the severe peril that it holds for the state itself.
9. Continued propaganda against Pakistani Nuclear Weapons despite them being considered safer then those of India, by independent research and think tanks.
10. Discriminatory treatment with Pakistan and extremely preferential treatment with India to the point of arming India to the teeth and paving way for more so in the near future instead of using its influence to ensure a permanent solution to Kashmir so that both countries can co-exist peacefully and with mutual respect and trust.
11. Bigots and Hippocrates, as on the one hand they themselves want to deal with Talibaan and want Pakistan to broker the deal and then on the other hand they want Pakistan to go after the same Talibaan, This is done to ensure that a) Pakistan is continually blackmailed to do more and to diplomatically isolate Pakistan as a state that harbors and supports terrorists and b) to engage Pakistan Army with another enemy, which is not the enemy in the first place.

The list just goes on and on........we need to end this BULLSHIT now!!
 
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The US policymakers are making mistakes of the lifetime. They're offering the Super Power status to China in a platter as the path to being the Super Power passes through the heart of Asia. What they fail to understand is that once China becomes a Super Power capital will also take a flight to China. I don't want to think what will happen to the USA itself. Conditions leading to the Civil War should contain enough caveats to read the consequences correctly. Anyway, Murad-i Ilahi can't be undone..
 
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The sooner we end this the better but again for that to happen we will have to have a national government and not this mockery of corrupt thugs and pathetic excuse for a government, People who can fight for Pakistan and not just to defend their corruption. Period
Till than we as nation will continue to face such embarrassment.
 
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The sooner we end this the better but again for that to happen we will have to have a national government and not this mockery of corrupt thugs and pathetic excuse for a government, People who can fight for Pakistan and not just to defend their corruption. Period
Till than we as nation will continue to face such embarrassment.
As if the FMS go to government? :lol:
 
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As if the FMS go to government? :lol:

There are other things apart from FMS that do go elsewhere and if the government actually works for the betterment with the purpose of putting Pakistan back on track and its economy to be revived, there wont even be a need for an FMS.
 
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As if the FMS go to government? :lol:

It is not just a matter of FMS. The bending over of the political leadership to the US demands guarantees US diplomatic and financial intervention in the event the civilian Government is sent packing by the Military.

However, the inclination of the PAF towards the F-16's (blk-52) is beyond any reason, especially when these may sitting ducks against the Rafael or the potential IAF purchase of 200 odd F-16 (blk-70)!! And all the BS that we have to take just because of these F-16's is unjustified and just not worth it.
 
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There are other things apart from FMS that do go elsewhere and if the government actually works for the betterment with the purpose of putting Pakistan back on track and its economy to be revived, there wont even be a need for an FMS.
Like can you give me anything on that? US does that spending through USAID which falls under the agency's allocation not not directly to Pakistan. FMS is directly attributable to Pakistan and hence comes the questions.How do you expect the economy to accelerate when the military budget dwarfs the development budget?

It is not just a matter of FMS. The bending over of the political leadership to the US demands guarantees US diplomatic and financial intervention in the event the civilian Government is sent packing by the Military.
???? US has been long demanding Pakistan to act against Haqqanis and shed malintention which they still continue to blame us for. I'd love to know the demands where have political leadership been allowed to bend towards US?
 
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Although I have posted the same on the comments section of DAWN. I wanted to share my thoughts here as well.

What more does the Government of Pakistan and the PakMil require to sever all military ties with the US? The list:
1. Continued sale of highest grade military equipment to India, which is mostly Pakistan specific.
2. Continued and blatant rhetoric against Pakistan at all forums, foreign and domestic.
3. Humiliation of Pakistan and Pakistanis and continuation of calling the CSF as Aid.
4. Lack of acknowledgement and lack of respect for the 75k lives and over USD 120 Billion lost by Pakistan due to the US TERROR WAR!!
5. Continued ruckus, propaganda and diplomacy in favor of India and against the interests of Pakistan.
6. Lack of acknowledgement of the fact that the US would have been in no position to put boots on the ground, or would have done so at a much higher and unacceptable risk of KIA's, had Pakistan declined to support the US in their WAR OF TERROR!!
7. Weight of benefits of extreme support to US interests are far outweighed by the losses continued to be incurred by Pakistan.
8. The fact that US has always been a back stabber, that the US lawmakers are neither responsive nor sympathetic to the plights of Pakistan and the boundaries that Pakistan has to live with. That their vision is one sided, deluded and nonsense. That, Pakistan to them is just a vendor hired to carry out tasks without regards to the severe peril that it holds for the state itself.
9. Continued propaganda against Pakistani Nuclear Weapons despite them being considered safer then those of India, by independent research and think tanks.
10. Discriminatory treatment with Pakistan and extremely preferential treatment with India to the point of arming India to the teeth and paving way for more so in the near future instead of using its influence to ensure a permanent solution to Kashmir so that both countries can co-exist peacefully and with mutual respect and trust.
11. Bigots and Hippocrates, as on the one hand they themselves want to deal with Talibaan and want Pakistan to broker the deal and then on the other hand they want Pakistan to go after the same Talibaan, This is done to ensure that a) Pakistan is continually blackmailed to do more and to diplomatically isolate Pakistan as a state that harbors and supports terrorists and b) to engage Pakistan Army with another enemy, which is not the enemy in the first place.

The list just goes on and on........we need to end this BULLSHIT now!!
For that we ned to decrease our over reliance on American military hardware

Like can you give me anything on that? US does that spending through USAID which falls under the agency's allocation not not directly to Pakistan. FMS is directly attributable to Pakistan and hence comes the questions.How do you expect the economy to accelerate when the military budget dwarfs the development budget?


???? US has been long demanding Pakistan to act against Haqqanis and shed malintention which they still continue to blame us for. I'd love to know the demands where have political leadership been allowed to bend towards US?
Wel we cant decrease the military budget now when we have our eastern neighbours making references to East Pakistan again and ttp attacking us from the other side of durand line maybe after ttp is no longer a threat we could decrease the percentage from 18 to 16% of gdp but decreasing now is like commiting suicide
 
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Although I have posted the same on the comments section of DAWN. I wanted to share my thoughts here as well.

What more does the Government of Pakistan and the PakMil require to sever all military ties with the US? The list:
1. Continued sale of highest grade military equipment to India, which is mostly Pakistan specific.
2. Continued and blatant rhetoric against Pakistan at all forums, foreign and domestic.
3. Humiliation of Pakistan and Pakistanis and continuation of calling the CSF as Aid.
4. Lack of acknowledgement and lack of respect for the 75k lives and over USD 120 Billion lost by Pakistan due to the US TERROR WAR!!
5. Continued ruckus, propaganda and diplomacy in favor of India and against the interests of Pakistan.
6. Lack of acknowledgement of the fact that the US would have been in no position to put boots on the ground, or would have done so at a much higher and unacceptable risk of KIA's, had Pakistan declined to support the US in their WAR OF TERROR!!
7. Weight of benefits of extreme support to US interests are far outweighed by the losses continued to be incurred by Pakistan.
8. The fact that US has always been a back stabber, that the US lawmakers are neither responsive nor sympathetic to the plights of Pakistan and the boundaries that Pakistan has to live with. That their vision is one sided, deluded and nonsense. That, Pakistan to them is just a vendor hired to carry out tasks without regards to the severe peril that it holds for the state itself.
9. Continued propaganda against Pakistani Nuclear Weapons despite them being considered safer then those of India, by independent research and think tanks.
10. Discriminatory treatment with Pakistan and extremely preferential treatment with India to the point of arming India to the teeth and paving way for more so in the near future instead of using its influence to ensure a permanent solution to Kashmir so that both countries can co-exist peacefully and with mutual respect and trust.
11. Bigots and Hippocrates, as on the one hand they themselves want to deal with Talibaan and want Pakistan to broker the deal and then on the other hand they want Pakistan to go after the same Talibaan, This is done to ensure that a) Pakistan is continually blackmailed to do more and to diplomatically isolate Pakistan as a state that harbors and supports terrorists and b) to engage Pakistan Army with another enemy, which is not the enemy in the first place.

The list just goes on and on........we need to end this BULLSHIT now!!

Well said. Bravo! Cease to be a non NATO ally!!
 
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Pakistan must not seek the 8 F-16s US is offering. If the country has to go through such humiliations.

In the end, people of Pakistan must decide the leaders they should have. They should choose between generational thieves we have ruling the country right now and those who promise to bring fundamental reforms so that country does not seek loans and aid.

If we can collect enough taxes, we can buy all stuff we want. The problem is corrupt and unaccountable leadership and our own mindset of defending these criminals in one way or another.
 
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Wel we cant decrease the military budget now when we have our eastern neighbours making references to East Pakistan again and ttp attacking us from the other side of durand line maybe after ttp is no longer a threat we could decrease the percentage from 18 to 16% of gdp but decreasing now is like commiting suicide
Then probably we should also be realistic about our economic prospect. Shouldn't we?
 
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Well said. Bravo! Cease to be a non NATO ally!!

Ally???? You have got to be kidding me. Just because they said Iraq has WMD's didn't really mean it did! Precisely the same way as they call us an Ally!!
 
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