US junks tech denial regime for India, now more an ally than just partner

[joekrish]

Always remember Pakistan in your mind as what could happen with US allys down the future..first they will build you and then they will destroy you!

There is a huge difference between the way you delt and we are dealing, we have the whole market open to us and the money to buy more than you could and we decide our purchases.

 

[The_magnificent]

Nobody is following pakistan's path. So stop giving advise. We are not getting free gifts. we are not fighting american wars, we are not asking america to give us donations.

WHat we are doing is to getting tech with our hard earned money.

Not everyone who befriended america ended up with pakistan like results. Look at Israel, japan, South korea, turkey.

Only those states who wants to be puppet states suffer in the end. Thr is huge difference betweed making Friends and master

 

[Rig Vedic]

being neutral in coming time is nothing but being foolish ..and keep it in mind this foolishness will be very costly this time ..

You can afford to be neutral if you are strong enough to defend yourself. Neutral does not mean that we can't be friendly.

When you go into one camp, you become an opponent of the other. Proxy warriors and proxy nations are easy to find.

India's current policy is fairly satisfactory.

 

[Developereo]

Indian "diplomacy" has zip to do with anything.

India is cashing in on others' paranoia. The US is helping India to counter China, and Israel is helping India to counter Pakistan.

Of course, we don't expect the Indians to acknowledge it.

 

[Abhishek_]

Indian "diplomacy" has zip to do with anything.

India is cashing in on others' paranoia. The US is helping India to counter China, and Israel is helping India to counter Pakistan.

Of course, we don't expect the Indians to acknowledge it.

you forgot to include what PK is doing to counter this development?

 

[Developereo]

you forgot to include what PK is doing to counter this development?

Not to go too off-topic, but Pakistan is not going to abandon its Chinese relationship, or suck up to Israel, just to counter these developments.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Indian "diplomacy" has zip to do with anything.

India is cashing in on others' paranoia. The US is helping India to counter China, and Israel is helping India to counter Pakistan.

Of course, we don't expect the Indians to acknowledge it.

That my friend, requires intelligence and Thinking. Just the stuff required in Diplomacy! Apart from Manipulation, of course.

Now, think about it.

you forgot to include what PK is doing to counter this development?

Question ought to have been instead: "what PK can do to counter this development?"

 

[Rig Vedic]

India is cashing in on others' paranoia. The US is helping India to counter China, and Israel is helping India to counter Pakistan.

Of course, we don't expect the Indians to acknowledge it.

The US has not particularly helped India. Even the nuclear deal has not resulted in any Indian imports from the US.

The Indo-Israeli relationship is beneficial, but it is not one sided. We pay good prices and have also provided satellite launch services to Israel.

 

[sss112]

Leaving the burnt a$$es aside on this thread, we should start our wish list here buddies.
First thing on it
Javelins and M777

 

[Developereo]

That my friend, requires intelligence and Thinking. Just the stuff required in Diplomacy! Apart from Manipulation, of course.

Now, think about it.

Uh no.

India could have sat on its butt and Israel/US would have helped India anyway.

The rise of China is the best thing that happened to India.

The US has not particularly helped India. Even the nuclear deal has not resulted in any Indian imports from the US.

Are you kidding? The US has championed any number of international diplomatic initiatives specifically to help India, from the NSG waiver to the Australian nuke deal to inclusion in various ASEAN forums. The US dominated global media turns a blind eye to major problems in India, while others, including China, get no such favorable treatment.

And, before you guys mention the economy, the US doesn't let economic considerations cloud their geopolitical agenda, else they would have taken China as their "ally" long ago. I am not denying the importance of India's economy, but I am saying it is not a factor in the US/Israeli patronage of India.

The Indo-Israeli relationship is beneficial, but it is not one sided. We pay good prices and have also provided satellite launch services to Israel.

Israel can get their satellites launched nine ways to Sunday; they don't India for that. They also do not need Indian technology or money, both of which they can get plenty of from China. Again, the reason Israel picked India over China, is due to US pressure and the Pakistan factor. (Remember the planned joint raid on Kahuta.)

 

[Laughing_soldier]

Indian "diplomacy" has zip to do with anything.

India is cashing in on others' paranoia. The US is helping India to counter China, and Israel is helping India to counter Pakistan.

Of course, we don't expect the Indians to acknowledge it.

How is it??? US does not give a single at low cost, we buy them like we do from other countries. Tell us what US did to help us contain China???


Do we need Israel to contain Pakistan? They also do not give anything for free but comes with a high $.

On the other way Pakistan gets all of its technologies and many of its weapons free from China. From F-22P to JF-17 all are free. Forget about missiles and nukes.

 

[anoop]

Yes we were and we are because of our puppet GOVT and it seems like its ur turn now, if u r going ahead with this, even having an example in Neighbourhood, u might not like to called as DUMB

tell me time when pakistan didn`t had any puppet gov that didn`t followed dikkat of america . why blame present gov which is only following policies of ex-musrraf gov

 

[Zeeshan360]

american/israeli tech and iranian oil.

how did we do that?

THIS .. Hahahaha
It happens only in India

 

[India defense]

Indian "diplomacy" has zip to do with anything.

India is cashing in on others' paranoia. The US is helping India to counter China, and Israel is helping India to counter Pakistan.

Of course, we don't expect the Indians to acknowledge it.

Funny statement...dont give too much importance to yourself....do you think Israel bother about Pakistan

 

[Vinod2070]

Funny statement...dont give too much importance to yourself....do you think Israel bother about Pakistan

Some people need to justify everything that has nothing to do with them.

Whatever we are witnessing today is the result of 2 decades of ~7% average growth that is expected to increase pace.

The writing on the wall is clear to those who matter.

Of course, other factors are important but the economy and the strides made by Indian scientific and technological community have been major factors behind the changed perceptions of India globally.

And of course the IT industry.

The situation is more complex than India in an anti China camp or USA/China conflict. For China, their USA relationship still remains the most important, as it is for almost all of the world.

There are many alignments in Indo US interests and we share many common values. The combination works fantastically well.

In fact, we should have been close friends for decades, it was only the cold war that kept us apart.

The problem with some people wanting to become the client state of the rising power on the bloc in place of the current hyperpower is that the relationship will remain too much one sided.

It will be (and is today) like a jealous and insecure girlfriend forever worried...