US has 'rebuilt' China: Donald Trump

[Muhammed45]

its good time china sale out 1300bn$ US treasury bills and then see who rebuild whom

China announced its interests to introduce oil backed Yuan for world markets which makes dollar shake to its dirty roots. From Venezuela until EU territories that are fed up with world bully, China can find markets for its Yuan

Hence, Sometimes, the mad dog tries to bully Chinese, when he fails to bully them into submission, he starts begging. What a pathetic country is this US. We rebuilt China, sounds like a child begging his papa.



Chinese workers have US economy on their shoulders, if China gets rid of dollar with satisfying European countries to buy Yuan, American empire will collapse. And here we are, we rebuilt China, says who, American swine

 

[Imran Khan]

China announced its interests to introduce oil backed Yuan for world markets which makes dollar shake to its dirty roots. From Venezuela until EU territories that are fed up with world bully, China can find markets for its Yuan

Hence, Sometimes, the mad dog tries to bully Chinese, when he fails to bully them into submission, he starts begging. What a pathetic country is this US. We rebuilt China, sounds like a child begging his papa.



Chinese workers have US economy on their shoulders, if China gets rid of dollar with satisfying European countries to buy Yuan, American empire will collapse. And here we are, we rebuilt China, says who, American swine

china just stop buying US TREASURY BILLS that is it . no one want to buy this toilet papers worth bounds anymore

 

[PurpleStone]

Also, we aren't speaking Japanese while their constitution is written in English.

Chinese would have been speaking Japanese had US did save Chinese @$$ in WWII.

We defeated Japan and China is always an independent country, we didn't get independent from foreigners, India got independence from UK, but not China, China always has a government and even during Japan's heydays, it only mannaged to control less than one third of China and only the cities, not the countryside. Some part of Russia also was occupied by Germany but it didn't get the dependence from Germany, that's the first time I heard that China got independence from foreigners, it's such a big joke, Indians can never change their colonized mentality.

From the start to the end of the war ,the only official document China and Japan signed is this one.

US defeated Japan and China claimed victory. Everyone knows this fact.

 

[Nan Yang]

Wrong. Building defenses is okay but building only defences to hide with no offense is what the great wall represents. Did Chinese rulers take on Genghis Khan head on?

Sort of...Genghis Khan was killed fighting a Sub Chinese kingdom call Xi Xia.

 

[PurpleStone]

Sort of...Genghis Khan was killed fighting a Sub Chinese kingdom call Xi Xia.

He died of ill health.


Genghis Khan takes Beijing
The great conqueror took the Chinese city on June 1st, 1215.

Richard Cavendish | Published in History Today Volume 65 Issue 6 June 2015

Genghis Khan in battle. Illustration from a chronicle by Rashid al-Din, 14th century.History's greatest conqueror emerged from obscurity in 12th-century Mongolia, when the steppes north of the Great Wall of China were occupied by tribes and clans entangled in constantly shifting alliances, rivalries and disputes. Fierce warriors, the Mongols claimed to be descended from the Huns (Hun being the Mongol word for human being). The Jurcheds, who ruled northern China and Manchuria, deliberately fomented quarrels among the Mongols and the other tribes north of the Great Wall to stop them from being a nuisance.

A boy called Temujin was born around 1162 to Yesugei, the khan or leader of a minor Mongol clan, the Borijin. The name Temujin seems to have come from a Mongol word meaning 'headstrong' and 'inspired' and it suited him and perhaps helped to inspire him. His father, Yesugei, was poisoned when Temujin was still a boy. Temujin developed into an overwhelmingly commanding personality with a genius for warfare, which he employed to bring the other Mongol groups under his control. Starting by stalking and killing his elder half-brother, he took command of his clan and went on over many years to kill leading figures in rival groups and threaten or win others into his service. By his mid-forties in 1206 he was acknowledged by the admiring peoples of the steppes as Genghis Khan (Chinggis Khan, or 'unshakeable ruler').

In 1210 envoys from the Jurched capital of Zhongdu (later Peking and now Beijing) arrived in Mongolia announcing the accession of a new Golden Khan, as their ruler was called, and demanding that Genghis Khan and the Mongols formally accept his suzerainty. Genghis spat contemptuously on the ground, treated the envoys to a volley of insults at the Golden Khan and rode away. He summoned a meeting of his tribespeople – men, women and children – to consider the situation. Once he felt certain they were with him, he went up to the top of a nearby mountain where he bowed down to the Eternal Blue Sky and informed it that he and his people had not looked to fight the Jurcheds, but were being forced into war by them. On the fourth day he came down and told the people what he had done and that the Eternal Sky had promised them victory and revenge.

Secure in his people's support, Genghis led a succession of campaigns. Mongol armies travelled and fought on horseback and took huge numbers of reserve horses with them. They had no supply train to delay them, could survive on little food and lived off the land, pillaging as they went and eating some of their horses if they needed to.

In his Genghis Khan and the Making of the Modern World (2004) Jack Weatherford said that Genghis Khan 'had lit a conflagration that would eventually consume the world'. After repeated campaigns, by 1213 the Mongols had overrun all the Jurched territory north of the Great Wall. Genghis Khan now broke through the Wall and attacked northern China, which his forces ravaged and plundered. In the spring of 1214 they descended on the Jurched capital at Zongdhu. There had been a coup there and the newly installed Golden Khan did not feel secure enough to face a prolonged siege. He offered substantial rewards if the Mongols would withdraw, including enormous quantities of gold, silver and silk, as well as thousands of horses. He gave Genghis Khan a Jurched princess as a wife and acknowledged the Mongol chieftain as his overlord.

Satisfied, Genghis Khan left to return to Mongolia, leaving the Jurched regime to continue in China and pay him tribute as their overlord, but the Golden Khan soon broke the agreement. He aband-oned Zhongdu and moved his court to the city of Kaifeng, far to the south. Genghis Khan was infuriated at what he considered a betrayal. In 1215 he marched back to Zhongdu. Many of its people also felt betrayed by the Golden Khan and the Mongol siege starved the city into submission. Genghis Khan went back to Mongolia, leaving his subordinates to sack Zhongdu, which they did with enthusiastic thoroughness and zeal.

In his last years Genghis Khan extended his sway over northern China, invaded Afghanistan and pressed on into Georgia, Russia and northern Persia. Cities were taken and populations ruthlessly massacred. When Genghis Khan died in his sixties in 1227, of fever after a bad fall from his horse, his empire stretched from the Pacific to the Black Sea and covered an area larger than the Roman Empire at its height. His descendants would make it bigger still.

https://www.historytoday.com/richard-cavendish/genghis-khan-takes-beijing

 

[haidian]

US defeated Japan and China claimed victory. Everyone knows this fact.

As allies we defeated Japan together, Japan surendered to both US and Republc of China.


ACT OF SURRENDER
The Emperor of Japan, the Japanese government and the Japanese Imperial General Headquarters, having recognized the complete military defeat of the Japanese military forces by the Allied forces and having surrendered unconditionally to the Supreme Commander for the Allied powers, having directed by his general order no.1 that the senior commanders and all ground, sea, air and auxiliary forces within China excluding Manchuria, Formosa and French Indo-China north of 16 degrees north latitude shall surrender to Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek.

We, the Japanese Commanders of all Japanese forces and auxiliaries in the areas named above, also recognizing the complete military defeat of the Japanese military forces by the Allied forces, hereby surrender unconditionally all of the forces under our command to Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek. All the Japanese forces hereby surrendered will cease hostilities and will remain at the stations they now occupy. They are now non-combatant troops and in due course will be demobilized. They will assemble, preserve without damage, and turn over to the forces specified by Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek, all arms, ammunition, equipment, supplies, records, information and other assets of any kind belonging to the Japanese forces. Pending specific instructions, all Japanese aircraft, naval units, and merchant ships in the areas named above will be held without damage where they are at present located.

All the Allied prisoners of war and civilian internees now under Japanese control in the areas named above will be liberated at once and the Japanese forces will provide protection, care, maintenance, and transportation to places as directed.

Henceforth, all the Japanese forces, hereby surrendered, will be subject to the control of Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek. Their movements and activities will be dictated by him, and they will obey only the orders and proclamations issued, or authorised, by him, or the orders of their Japanese commanders based upon his instructions.

This act of surrender and all subsequent orders and proclamations of Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek to the surrender forces will be issued at once to the appropriate subordinate commanders and forces and it will be the responsibility of all Japanese commanders and forces to see that such proclamations and orders are immediately and completely complied with.

For any failure or delay, by any member of the forces surrendered hereby to act in accordance with this act of surrender or future orders or proclamations of the Generalissimo, he will summarily and drastically punish both the violator and his responsible commanders.

He died of ill health.


Genghis Khan takes Beijing
The great conqueror took the Chinese city on June 1st, 1215.

Richard Cavendish | Published in History Today Volume 65 Issue 6 June 2015

Genghis Khan in battle. Illustration from a chronicle by Rashid al-Din, 14th century.History's greatest conqueror emerged from obscurity in 12th-century Mongolia, when the steppes north of the Great Wall of China were occupied by tribes and clans entangled in constantly shifting alliances, rivalries and disputes. Fierce warriors, the Mongols claimed to be descended from the Huns (Hun being the Mongol word for human being). The Jurcheds, who ruled northern China and Manchuria, deliberately fomented quarrels among the Mongols and the other tribes north of the Great Wall to stop them from being a nuisance.

A boy called Temujin was born around 1162 to Yesugei, the khan or leader of a minor Mongol clan, the Borijin. The name Temujin seems to have come from a Mongol word meaning 'headstrong' and 'inspired' and it suited him and perhaps helped to inspire him. His father, Yesugei, was poisoned when Temujin was still a boy. Temujin developed into an overwhelmingly commanding personality with a genius for warfare, which he employed to bring the other Mongol groups under his control. Starting by stalking and killing his elder half-brother, he took command of his clan and went on over many years to kill leading figures in rival groups and threaten or win others into his service. By his mid-forties in 1206 he was acknowledged by the admiring peoples of the steppes as Genghis Khan (Chinggis Khan, or 'unshakeable ruler').

In 1210 envoys from the Jurched capital of Zhongdu (later Peking and now Beijing) arrived in Mongolia announcing the accession of a new Golden Khan, as their ruler was called, and demanding that Genghis Khan and the Mongols formally accept his suzerainty. Genghis spat contemptuously on the ground, treated the envoys to a volley of insults at the Golden Khan and rode away. He summoned a meeting of his tribespeople – men, women and children – to consider the situation. Once he felt certain they were with him, he went up to the top of a nearby mountain where he bowed down to the Eternal Blue Sky and informed it that he and his people had not looked to fight the Jurcheds, but were being forced into war by them. On the fourth day he came down and told the people what he had done and that the Eternal Sky had promised them victory and revenge.

Secure in his people's support, Genghis led a succession of campaigns. Mongol armies travelled and fought on horseback and took huge numbers of reserve horses with them. They had no supply train to delay them, could survive on little food and lived off the land, pillaging as they went and eating some of their horses if they needed to.

In his Genghis Khan and the Making of the Modern World (2004) Jack Weatherford said that Genghis Khan 'had lit a conflagration that would eventually consume the world'. After repeated campaigns, by 1213 the Mongols had overrun all the Jurched territory north of the Great Wall. Genghis Khan now broke through the Wall and attacked northern China, which his forces ravaged and plundered. In the spring of 1214 they descended on the Jurched capital at Zongdhu. There had been a coup there and the newly installed Golden Khan did not feel secure enough to face a prolonged siege. He offered substantial rewards if the Mongols would withdraw, including enormous quantities of gold, silver and silk, as well as thousands of horses. He gave Genghis Khan a Jurched princess as a wife and acknowledged the Mongol chieftain as his overlord.

Satisfied, Genghis Khan left to return to Mongolia, leaving the Jurched regime to continue in China and pay him tribute as their overlord, but the Golden Khan soon broke the agreement. He aband-oned Zhongdu and moved his court to the city of Kaifeng, far to the south. Genghis Khan was infuriated at what he considered a betrayal. In 1215 he marched back to Zhongdu. Many of its people also felt betrayed by the Golden Khan and the Mongol siege starved the city into submission. Genghis Khan went back to Mongolia, leaving his subordinates to sack Zhongdu, which they did with enthusiastic thoroughness and zeal.

In his last years Genghis Khan extended his sway over northern China, invaded Afghanistan and pressed on into Georgia, Russia and northern Persia. Cities were taken and populations ruthlessly massacred. When Genghis Khan died in his sixties in 1227, of fever after a bad fall from his horse, his empire stretched from the Pacific to the Black Sea and covered an area larger than the Roman Empire at its height. His descendants would make it bigger still.

https://www.historytoday.com/richard-cavendish/genghis-khan-takes-beijing

Genghis Khan took the whole known world, but his empire fell very fast, in just a century Chinese Ming dynasty troops took Mongol capital in today's Mongolia and burned the whole city to the ground.

 

[PurpleStone]

As allies we defeated Japan together, Japan surendered to both US and Republc of China.

The fact is from 1931, when Japan invaded China, to 1941, when US entered the war (WWII), China just rolled over and/or was losing battles to Japan. It took US just 4 years to defeat the Japanese and save China from becoming a colony of Japan.

Genghis Khan took the whole known world, but his empire fell very fast, in just a century Chinese Ming dynasty troops took Mongol capital in today's Mongolia and burned the whole city to the ground.

Whatever stand that suits China?

Outrage as China lays claim to Genghis Khan

By Graeme Baker

12:01AM GMT 30 Dec 2006


He swept all before him and subjugated much of the known world. But now, almost 800 years after his death, Genghis Kahn is embroiled in another war as China attempts to adopt the Mongol king as its own national hero.

In stark contrast to Mao Zedong, who insisted Genghis was only fit to fire arrows at birds, communist officials and historians now say he represents the essence of new China – a unifying force for a strident land of many ethnic minorities.

"We define him as a great man of the Chinese people, a hero of the Mongolian nationality, and a giant in world history," said Guo Wurong, the manager of the new Genghis Khan "mausoleum" in China's Inner Mongolia province.

"Genghis Khan was certainly Chinese," he added.

The ''mausoleum" was built on a spot the Mongol leader was said to have passed on his way to his final war in 1227, and holds artefacts including his bow and saddle.

But the buildings resemble many Chinese imperial tombs, drawing criticism for historical inaccuracy.

And recent Mongolian festivals of riding, shooting and wrestling, once banned but now subsidised by the Chinese state, have been "communised", according to one Mongolian official who did not wish to be named.

Such rewriting of history has raised the hackles of Mongolians, both in the independent (outer) Mongolian state and inside China.

They see the attempt to claim their national icon as part of a Chinese plan to expand influence.

Promoting Genghis Khan as Chinese also helps promote the party line that Inner Mongolia is an important part of China, despite the fact that many ethnic Mongols still yearn for independence.

Many remember the Cultural Revolution, when, according to reports, between 10,000 and 17,000 died in the terror, 87,000 were crippled and 346,000 persecuted.

Professor Baildugqi, an expert on Mongolian history at the Inner Mongolia University, said new Chinese commemorations of Genghis Khan went against all that he was.

"You cannot use the methods of the [Chinese] interior to commemorate Genghis and his culture," he said.

The official justification rests on the view that Genghis Khan was Chinese because his successors ruled as Chinese emperors and there are many Mongolians now living in China.

But it is a view dismissed by many Mongols.

On a popular website on such issues, one contributor wrote: "Now there are quite a few Mongolians in China, and they have Chinese citizenship. But that does not make Mongolians [of the times of Genghis] Chinese. If your grandson moves to the US and becomes a US citizen, that will not mean that you and your dad were Americans."

Calling Genghis Khan a Chinese hero has also upset some inside China. Many Chinese retain the view of Mao that he was no more than a barbarian warlord.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1538174/Outrage-as-China-lays-claim-to-Genghis-Khan.html

 

[rott]

Chinese would have been speaking Japanese had US did save Chinese @$$ in WWII.

IF IF IF IF IF... keep iffing...
We aren't and you are still an English colony.

 

[haidian]

The fact is from 1931, when Japan invaded China, to 1941, when US entered the war (WWII), China just rolled over and/or was losing battles to Japan. It took US just 4 years to defeat the Japanese and save China from becoming a colony of Japan.

So you changed your tone that China didn't get "independence" from Japan, see, live and learn, we taught you something that your school didn't teach you. In the history some wars last over 100 years,but they are still wars, in the end one will come out victoriously and the process of a war can be very trecherous but in the end the result is what only matters. Japan can never have the power to conquer China , they knew that so they set up a puppet Manchuria state in China's North East instead of annexing it, they stretched very far and thin, it's only a matter of time that China turns the tables, US only facilitated this trend ,nothing else.

The fact is from 1931, when Japan invaded China, to 1941, when US entered the war (WWII), China just rolled over and/or was losing battles to Japan. It took US just 4 years to defeat the Japanese and save China from becoming a colony of Japan.



Whatever stand that suits China?

Outrage as China lays claim to Genghis Khan

By Graeme Baker

12:01AM GMT 30 Dec 2006


He swept all before him and subjugated much of the known world. But now, almost 800 years after his death, Genghis Kahn is embroiled in another war as China attempts to adopt the Mongol king as its own national hero.

In stark contrast to Mao Zedong, who insisted Genghis was only fit to fire arrows at birds, communist officials and historians now say he represents the essence of new China – a unifying force for a strident land of many ethnic minorities.

"We define him as a great man of the Chinese people, a hero of the Mongolian nationality, and a giant in world history," said Guo Wurong, the manager of the new Genghis Khan "mausoleum" in China's Inner Mongolia province.

"Genghis Khan was certainly Chinese," he added.

The ''mausoleum" was built on a spot the Mongol leader was said to have passed on his way to his final war in 1227, and holds artefacts including his bow and saddle.

But the buildings resemble many Chinese imperial tombs, drawing criticism for historical inaccuracy.

And recent Mongolian festivals of riding, shooting and wrestling, once banned but now subsidised by the Chinese state, have been "communised", according to one Mongolian official who did not wish to be named.

Such rewriting of history has raised the hackles of Mongolians, both in the independent (outer) Mongolian state and inside China.

They see the attempt to claim their national icon as part of a Chinese plan to expand influence.

Promoting Genghis Khan as Chinese also helps promote the party line that Inner Mongolia is an important part of China, despite the fact that many ethnic Mongols still yearn for independence.

Many remember the Cultural Revolution, when, according to reports, between 10,000 and 17,000 died in the terror, 87,000 were crippled and 346,000 persecuted.

Professor Baildugqi, an expert on Mongolian history at the Inner Mongolia University, said new Chinese commemorations of Genghis Khan went against all that he was.

"You cannot use the methods of the [Chinese] interior to commemorate Genghis and his culture," he said.

The official justification rests on the view that Genghis Khan was Chinese because his successors ruled as Chinese emperors and there are many Mongolians now living in China.

But it is a view dismissed by many Mongols.

On a popular website on such issues, one contributor wrote: "Now there are quite a few Mongolians in China, and they have Chinese citizenship. But that does not make Mongolians [of the times of Genghis] Chinese. If your grandson moves to the US and becomes a US citizen, that will not mean that you and your dad were Americans."

Calling Genghis Khan a Chinese hero has also upset some inside China. Many Chinese retain the view of Mao that he was no more than a barbarian warlord.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1538174/Outrage-as-China-lays-claim-to-Genghis-Khan.html

Much more Mongols live in China than republic of Mongolia, Most Genghis descendants now are Chinese citizens, so there is a truth in this claim.

 

[PurpleStone]

IF IF IF IF IF... keep iffing...
We aren't and you are still an English colony.

US saved China from becoming a Japanese colony. China is not a colony Thanks!!! to the US.

Remember the topic of this thread - "US has 'rebuilt' China: Donald Trump"

And not once but multiple times.

1) Saved China from becoming a Japanese colony in WWII

2) Giving China UNSC seat

3) Setting up factories in Chinese since 1971 when it was economically collapsing after the civil war

4) Did not take harsh actions against China after the Tiananmen Square protests

So you changed your tone that China didn't get "independence" from Japan

Nope. There is no change in what I said. Your are just playing with words on how much of China was occupied and how long was it occupied.

China gaining independence from Japanese occupation.

 

[haidian]

1.US actually supported Japan to attack China with the provision of oil and rescourcs, otherwise, the invasion could have never happened.
2. US was against China's UNSC seat and was voted down by other China friendly nations . There is a documentary featuring this UN drama, go and educate yourself a bit.
3.1971? China was in the middle of cultural revolution, which US factory was set up back then? Can you enlighten us.
4. It's our domestic event, what does it have anything to do with a foreign country?

Nope. There is no change in what I said. Your are just playing with words on how much of China was occupied and how long was it occupied.

England and France sometime fought a war over a hundred years and based on your theory, sometimes England got independence from France and sometime France got independence from England? Can anyting sound more stupid than that? Are you sure you know the true meaning of " gaining independence"?

 

[rott]

US saved China from becoming a Japanese colony. China is not a colony Thanks!!! to the US.

Remember the topic of this thread - "US has 'rebuilt' China: Donald Trump"

And not once but multiple times.

1) Saved China from becoming a Japanese colony in WWII

2) Giving China UNSC seat

3) Setting up factories in Chinese since 1971 when it was economically collapsing after the civil war

4) Did not take harsh actions against China after the Tiananmen Square protests






Nope. There is no change in what I said. Your are just playing with words on how much of China was occupied and how long was it occupied.

Just to make a kid happy - here's a lollipop. Suck it.

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

China announced its interests to introduce oil backed Yuan for world markets which makes dollar shake to its dirty roots. From Venezuela until EU territories that are fed up with world bully, China can find markets for its Yuan

Hence, Sometimes, the mad dog tries to bully Chinese, when he fails to bully them into submission, he starts begging. What a pathetic country is this US. We rebuilt China, sounds like a child begging his papa.



Chinese workers have US economy on their shoulders, if China gets rid of dollar with satisfying European countries to buy Yuan, American empire will collapse. And here we are, we rebuilt China, says who, American swine

US leaders can bluff their way out with other nations, but they r unable to cheat the Chinese leaders who officially- have higher average iqs than the Anglosaxons.

The true cause of the trade imbalance is:

1)Americans's low savings rate, whereby almost everything is bought on credit(hence n ultimately- China has to assume the debts)

and

2) Americans's addiction for low cost Chinese goods in all segments of the market- from FMCGs(household goods like toothpaste, shampoo,etc etc) to iPhones(make in China)

China's leaders have already stated these observations.

The US knows these, but acts dumb.Trump and his advisors thinks this is the 3rd Opium War- sell China something toxic knowingly and demands handsome profits for it, backed up by gunboats(the tariff threats)

It's like a modified version of the fable of the https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ant_and_the_Grasshopper except this time round, not only is the grasshopper just quietly starving to death; it also has the audacity to blame the ant for its own ordeal n try n rob the latter of its food.

In other words, true cause = China's 'savings culture's vs Americans's 'future money culture'

 

[haidian]

India's logic is very strange ,they even believe setting up factories amounts to save your country, US set up factories in India long before they did in China and Indians believe US saved Inda many times?

 

[rott]

India's logic is very strange ,they even believe setting up factories amounts to save your country, US set up factories in India long before they did in China and Indians believe US saved Inda many times?

Exactly. Strange people with strange logic. I guess it's got everything to do with the IQ.