US drops charges against Huawei exec who was held in Canada

[beijingwalker]

US drops charges against Huawei exec who was held in Canada​

AFP
20:11 UTC+8, 2022-12-03

The US Justice Department on Friday dropped all charges against Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou, who was held by Canada on a US warrant for Iran sanctions-related charges for nearly three years.
Meng, who had fought extradition to the United States while Ottawa struggled with China's alleged retaliatory arrest of two Canadians, was freed in 2021 after reaching a deferred prosecution agreement with US authorities.

The Justice Department said Friday that she had completed the period of the agreement without violating it, and so the charges were fully dropped and could not be revisited.
The case became a major thorn in relations between China and both Canada and the United States.

Meng, the 50-year-old daughter of Ren Zhengfei, the founder of the Chinese telecoms giant, was Huawei's chief financial officer when she was arrested in Vancouver in December 2018.

The United States had sought her arrest for wire fraud and deceiving HSBC bank, relating to her alleged efforts to hide violations of US sanctions on Iran by Huawei affiliate Skycom.

During the same period that Meng was held under house arrest, Washington intensified a campaign against the use of Huawei equipment in the United States and allies, saying it posed deep security threats.
Meanwhile China arrested and held two Canadians – former diplomat Michael Kovrig and businessman Michael Spavor – forcing talks on what became labeled "hostage diplomacy."

The US deferred prosecution deal and the release and repatriation of Meng and the two Canadians came in a tightly arranged series of actions in September last year.

But that did not end the US pressure to exclude Huawei, one of the world's largest suppliers of networking and 5G technology, from the markets and systems of allies.
US authorities say that Huawei equipment could provide China's intelligence apparatus backdoor access to rivals' telecommunications networks.

The United States banned Huawei equipment in government use and discouraged its use in the commercial market.
In May this year Canada banned Huawei equipment from its 5G network.

US drops charges against Huawei exec who was held in Canada

The US Justice Department on Friday dropped all charges against Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou, who w

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[renhai]

Even so. We must execute Canadian drug dealers!

Canadians must pay with their lives for what they did! We need to let the world know~ If you sell drugs in China, you'd better write your will in advance!

 

[beijingwalker]

Much ado about nothing . US government often times behave like brainless brat.

 

[TigerOfMysore]

Even so. We must execute Canadian drug dealers!

Canadians must pay with their lives for what they did! We need to let the world know~ If you sell drugs in China, you'd better write your will in advance!

Another example of white and western nations self righteousness.
This is NOT A DIPLOMATIC issue.
These men committed the crime. The punishment is Death. Anyone who smuggles drugs into China deserves the strictest of punishment. And for someone from the West to complain or argue, they have no sense of history and China's scars from this issue. Read what the West did to China during the Opium wars. I cannot believe that anyone in the West even attempts to argue about their moral standards.

 

[beijingwalker]

U.S. drops charges against Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou​

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Much ado about nothing . US government often times behave like brainless brat.

She agreed to admit she way lying about an Iran deal if these charges were eventually dropped.

https://money.usnews.com/investing/news/articles/2022-12-01/huawei-cfos-u-s-bank-fraud-charges-to-be-dismissed

Huawei CFO's U.S. Bank Fraud Charges to Be Dismissed​

U.S. prosecutors on Thursday asked a judge to dismiss bank fraud and other charges against Meng Wanzhou, the chief financial officer of China's Huawei Technologies whose 2018 arrest strained relations between the U.S. and China.

Meng struck a deal with the prosecutors last year for the charges against her to be dismissed on Dec. 1, 2022, four years from the date of her arrest in Canada on a U.S. warrant, as Reuters reported first.

With no information Meng violated the deal, "the government respectfully moves to dismiss the third superseding indictment in this case as to defendant Wanzhou Meng," Brooklyn U.S. Attorney Carolyn Pokorny wrote in a Dec. 1 letter to U.S. District Judge Ann Donnelly.

Huawei, a telecommunications equipment maker the U.S. views as a national security threat, is still charged in the case, which is pending in U.S. District Court in Brooklyn, New York. No trial date has yet been set, and a status conference is scheduled for Feb. 7th.

While Thursday's move was expected, it closes a chapter on a particularly fraught phase of U.S.-China relations that also thrust Canada into the middle of a broader clash between the two superpowers.
Meng had been accused of bank fraud and other crimes for misleading global bank HSBC Holdings Plc about the company's business in Iran to obtain banking services in violation of U.S. sanctions.

As part of her deal -- a deferred prosecution agreement -- she acknowledged that she had made false statements about the company's Iran business in a 2013 meeting with a bank executive.

Meng's untrue statements were in a statement of facts that she agreed was accurate and voluntary and would not contradict.

 

[jhungary]

She agreed to admit doing other stuff if these charges were eventually dropped.

https://money.usnews.com/investing/news/articles/2022-12-01/huawei-cfos-u-s-bank-fraud-charges-to-be-dismissed

Huawei CFO's U.S. Bank Fraud Charges to Be Dismissed​

U.S. prosecutors on Thursday asked a judge to dismiss bank fraud and other charges against Meng Wanzhou, the chief financial officer of China's Huawei Technologies whose 2018 arrest strained relations between the U.S. and China.

Meng struck a deal with the prosecutors last year for the charges against her to be dismissed on Dec. 1, 2022, four years from the date of her arrest in Canada on a U.S. warrant, as Reuters reported first.

With no information Meng violated the deal, "the government respectfully moves to dismiss the third superseding indictment in this case as to defendant Wanzhou Meng," Brooklyn U.S. Attorney Carolyn Pokorny wrote in a Dec. 1 letter to U.S. District Judge Ann Donnelly.

Huawei, a telecommunications equipment maker the U.S. views as a national security threat, is still charged in the case, which is pending in U.S. District Court in Brooklyn, New York. No trial date has yet been set, and a status conference is scheduled for Feb. 7th.

While Thursday's move was expected, it closes a chapter on a particularly fraught phase of U.S.-China relations that also thrust Canada into the middle of a broader clash between the two superpowers.
Meng had been accused of bank fraud and other crimes for misleading global bank HSBC Holdings Plc about the company's business in Iran to obtain banking services in violation of U.S. sanctions.

As part of her deal -- a deferred prosecution agreement -- she acknowledged that she had made false statements about the company's Iran business in a 2013 meeting with a bank executive.

Meng's untrue statements were in a statement of facts that she agreed was accurate and voluntary and would not contradict.

DPA (Deferred Prosecution Agreement) is essentially an Alford Plea deal with no prosecution. Basically, it's an agreement for the defendant to admit the wrongdoing that was accuse them of and in return, the prosecutor will defer the prosecution (ie put the case on hold) It's like a no-Plea deal or NPA (Non-Prosecuted Agreement, which is the one get Bill Cosby off the hook) with the only exception is that in a DPA, prosecution only deferred the prosecution, but not offered amnesty (again like Bill Cosby case). DPA usually used when the punishment already satisfies or over the crime that was asked for, in this case, it's Meng's nearly 4 years of house arrest.

Which mean essentially Meng admit to the wrongdoing, in exchange for the prosecution to drop the case, and that's the agreement, if Meng rolled back on the agreement and say she did not lie on the sworn statement, then the DPA is null and void and she could be charged again.

 

[renhai]

She agreed to admit she way lying about an Iran deal if these charges were eventually dropped.

https://money.usnews.com/investing/news/articles/2022-12-01/huawei-cfos-u-s-bank-fraud-charges-to-be-dismissed

Huawei CFO's U.S. Bank Fraud Charges to Be Dismissed​

U.S. prosecutors on Thursday asked a judge to dismiss bank fraud and other charges against Meng Wanzhou, the chief financial officer of China's Huawei Technologies whose 2018 arrest strained relations between the U.S. and China.

Meng struck a deal with the prosecutors last year for the charges against her to be dismissed on Dec. 1, 2022, four years from the date of her arrest in Canada on a U.S. warrant, as Reuters reported first.

With no information Meng violated the deal, "the government respectfully moves to dismiss the third superseding indictment in this case as to defendant Wanzhou Meng," Brooklyn U.S. Attorney Carolyn Pokorny wrote in a Dec. 1 letter to U.S. District Judge Ann Donnelly.

Huawei, a telecommunications equipment maker the U.S. views as a national security threat, is still charged in the case, which is pending in U.S. District Court in Brooklyn, New York. No trial date has yet been set, and a status conference is scheduled for Feb. 7th.

While Thursday's move was expected, it closes a chapter on a particularly fraught phase of U.S.-China relations that also thrust Canada into the middle of a broader clash between the two superpowers.
Meng had been accused of bank fraud and other crimes for misleading global bank HSBC Holdings Plc about the company's business in Iran to obtain banking services in violation of U.S. sanctions.

As part of her deal -- a deferred prosecution agreement -- she acknowledged that she had made false statements about the company's Iran business in a 2013 meeting with a bank executive.

Meng's untrue statements were in a statement of facts that she agreed was accurate and voluntary and would not contradict.

DPA (Deferred Prosecution Agreement) is essentially an Alford Plea deal with no prosecution. Basically, it's an agreement for the defendant to admit the wrongdoing that was accuse them of and in return, the prosecutor will defer the prosecution (ie put the case on hold) It's like a no-Plea deal or NPA (Non-Prosecuted Agreement, which is the one get Bill Cosby off the hook) with the only exception is that in a DPA, prosecution only deferred the prosecution, but not offered amnesty (again like Bill Cosby case). DPA usually used when the punishment already satisfies or over the crime that was asked for, in this case, it's Meng's nearly 4 years of house arrest.

Which mean essentially Meng admit to the wrongdoing, in exchange for the prosecution to drop the case, and that's the agreement, if Meng rolled back on the agreement and say she did not lie on the sworn statement, then the DPA is null and void and she could be charged again.

According to this logic. Every country in the world can arrest Americans. They do not need to provide evidence. And they are free to "edit charges" for Americans. How wonderful.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Even so. We must execute Canadian drug dealers!

Canadians must pay with their lives for what they did! We need to let the world know~ If you sell drugs in China, you'd better write your will in advance!

I thought he was charged with trying to export meth from China to Australia.

He has little sympathy from the Canadian court system

Canadian sentenced to death in China previously warned by B.C. judge to change his ways | Globalnews.ca

Years before being sentenced to death by a Chinese court for drug smuggling, a B.C. Supreme Court judge warned Robert Lloyd Schellenberg to change his ways.

globalnews.ca

Canadian sentenced to death in China previously warned by B.C. judge to change his ways​

Years before being sentenced to death by a Chinese court for drug smuggling, a B.C. Supreme Court judge warned Robert Lloyd Schellenberg to change his ways.

Justice Neill Brown told Schellenberg in 2012 that he was lucky to be living in Canada and not caught up in Libya or Syria.

Brown sentenced Schellenberg to two years jail time minus time served for drug possession for the purpose of trafficking.

The judge told Schellenberg to “never underestimate the seriousness of his crime.”

A Chinese court ruled Schellenberg was recruited to help smuggle more than 222 kilograms of methamphetamine from China to Australia.

According to this logic. Every country in the world can arrest Americans. They do not need to provide evidence. And they are free to "edit charges" for Americans. How wonderful.

Are you thick or something? They never said she was innocent of the charges. They just said if you openly admit (without a trial) that you lied about key things we will drop the other charges.

 

[jhungary]

According to this logic. Every country in the world can arrest Americans. They do not need to provide evidence. And they are free to "edit charges" for Americans. How wonderful.

Why are you quoting me? I am just explaining what a Deferred Prosecution Agreement is.

It's Meng who took that deal, ask her, not me.

 

[renhai]

I thought he was charged with trying to export meth from China to Australia.

He has little sympathy from the Canadian court system

Canadian sentenced to death in China previously warned by B.C. judge to change his ways | Globalnews.ca

Years before being sentenced to death by a Chinese court for drug smuggling, a B.C. Supreme Court judge warned Robert Lloyd Schellenberg to change his ways.

globalnews.ca

Canadian sentenced to death in China previously warned by B.C. judge to change his ways​

Years before being sentenced to death by a Chinese court for drug smuggling, a B.C. Supreme Court judge warned Robert Lloyd Schellenberg to change his ways.

Justice Neill Brown told Schellenberg in 2012 that he was lucky to be living in Canada and not caught up in Libya or Syria.

Brown sentenced Schellenberg to two years jail time minus time served for drug possession for the purpose of trafficking.

The judge told Schellenberg to “never underestimate the seriousness of his crime.”

A Chinese court ruled Schellenberg was recruited to help smuggle more than 222 kilograms of methamphetamine from China to Australia.



Are you thick or something? They never said she was innocent of the charges. They just said if you openly admit that you lied about key things we will drop the other charges.

Let's reach a consensus first.

1，No matter how many reasons you have for selling drugs in China. China has the right to execute you.

2，If you can arbitrarily arrest citizens of other countries without evidence. According to the principle of reciprocity. Other countries can also arrest you without evidence.

3，As to whether you lied or perjured. Let me arrest you first. okay?

I am very sure that White Friend has a "logic barrier" when it comes to his own interests.

 

[jhungary]

Let's reach a consensus first.

1，No matter how many reasons you have for selling drugs in China. China has the right to execute you.

2，If you can arbitrarily arrest citizens of other countries without evidence. According to the principle of reciprocity. Other countries can also arrest you without evidence.

3，As to whether you lied or perjured. Let me arrest you first. okay?

I am very sure that White Friend has a "logic barrier" when it comes to his own interests.

Meng was NEVER officially arrested (Not by the US), Meng was detained by the Canadian Border Official and taking into custody by the RCMP and then release on bail, if Meng was officially arrested, there WILL NOT be a DPA because you would either have to drop the charge with prejudice (Ie cannot be file again due to double jeopardy) or go ahead with the trial.

Meng do have an arrest warrant from the DOJ and it lay out all the evidence against her, and it is that warrant made the basis of the Interpol Red Notice served to the RCMP lead to Meng detainment. Interpol will not accept a red notice on a charge without evidence. You may dispute the evident but it does not mean it was absent. That is the Jurisprudence in the US.

 

[renhai]

Meng was NEVER arrested, Meng was detained by the Canadian Border and release on bail, if Meng was officially arrested, there WILL NOT be a DPA because you would either have to drop the charge with prejudice (Ie cannot be file again due to double jeopardy) or go ahead with the trial.

Meng do have an arrest warrant from the DOJ and it lay out all the evidence against her, and it is that warrant made the basis of the Interpol Red Notice served to the RCMP lead to Meng detainment. Interpol will not accept a red notice on a charge without evidence. You may dispute the evident but it does not mean it was absent. That is the Jurisprudence in the US.

OK. Let me arrest or detain you first. Then talk about other things. According to North American logic. I have the right to do so. isn't it?

 

[jhungary]

OK. Let me arrest or detain you first. Then talk about other things. According to North American logic. I have the right to do so. isn't it?

Sure, please do, that will make me a VERY RICH man.

I don't know what kind of law and order you have in China. (I don't know about Hong Kong anymore). In the US, you need to have a "Probable Clause" or An "Arrest Warrant" signed by a judge to arrest someone. You cannot detain me first and then ask for a Warrant later. And A judge cannot issue a warrant if that did not hold up to the evidence threshold.

Again, you may dispute the fact to the evident, that does not mean they don't need evidence to arrest you.

And no, that is not North American Logic, this is the basis of Common Law, which made up the legal system in around 70% of the world, include partly by China.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Let's reach a consensus first.

1，No matter how many reasons you have for selling drugs in China. China has the right to execute you.

I have no problem with that. If you read my post about the Canadian judge warning that guy that he is lucky he isn't in Syria or Libya because his punishment would be far more severe. After his release the guy ignored the judge and now is facing the death penalty in China.

Why should he get any sympathy?