US Donates More Abrams Tanks, Humvees to Iraq

[Hindustani78]

US Donates More Abrams Tanks, Humvees to Iraq
January 6, 2015

US MRAPs in Kuwait await shipment to Iraq

American-donated MRAPs en route form Kuwait to Iraq

WASHINGTON — The United States provided the Iraqi armed forces with $300 million in donated military equipment in 2014, and over the next two months will deliver six more Abrams tanks and 50 up-armored Humvees at no cost to the Baghdad government, according to information provided by the US Embassy in Baghdad.

The deliveries come on the heels of the announcement that the US had donated 250 mine-resistant, ambush-protected (MRAP) vehicles to Iraqi and Kurdish forces since late December in a deal that also provided six months of US-provided maintenance for the hulking blast-resistant vehicles.

"The number one threat to the Iraqi security forces are roadside bombs and vehicle-borne bombs," US Ambassador to Iraq Stuart Jones said in a Tuesday statement. "These MRAP vehicles provide increased ballistic and counter mine protection for Iraqi security forces."

Some of the equipment provided by Washington includes 12,000 sets of body armor, Kevlar helmets, medical kits, counter-IED equipment, vehicle maintenance and sustainment, and tank and helicopter maintenance training. Preparations are also being made to ship 10,000 M16 rifles to the Iraqi Army in the coming weeks.

The multinational coalition against the radical Islamic State has conducted more than 900 airstrikes against targets in Iraq since Aug. 8 at an average daily cost of over $8 million, according to figures provided by the Pentagon.

That would put the price tag at more than $1.2 billion as of Tuesday.

And it is not only the MRAPs that are being shipped to help protect Iraqi troops from the threat of roadside bombs. US troops stationed in Baghdad, Taji and Al Asad Air Base are training Iraqi security forces in counter-IED tactics, and "the United States is providing Iraq with millions of dollars in equipment to defeat IEDs, booby traps, and homemade bombs," according to a statement by the US Embassy in Baghdad.

 

[Syrian Lion]

What about the F-16 Iraq been waiting on? I think F-16 would be more helpful right now, and the so called collation would have to work less on bombing their own terrorists... oh wait, if they give Iraq F-16 then Iraq will actually bomb I$I$ where the west and their puppet pretend to bomb I$I$ and make "Mistakes" dropping weapons to I$I$

 

[Oldman1]

What about the F-16 Iraq been waiting on? I think F-16 would be more helpful right now, and the so called collation would have to work less on bombing their own terrorists... oh wait, if they give Iraq F-16 then Iraq will actually bomb I$I$ where the west and their puppet pretend to bomb I$I$ and make "Mistakes" dropping weapons to I$I$

Or it could fall into enemy hands. Not sure if giving them more Abrams will help.

 

[Syrian Lion]

Or it could fall into enemy hands. Not sure if giving them more Abrams will help.

thats their goal, I$I$ takes those weapons and vehicles... trust me the west doesn't want I$I$ to end... they supply them indirectly...

 

[Oldman1]

thats their goal, I$I$ takes those weapons and vehicles... trust me the west doesn't want I$I$ to end... they supply them indirectly...

The Iraqi Army probably got their orders to abandoned their vehicles when they were close. Only possible explanation.

 

[Syrian Lion]

The Iraqi Army probably got their orders to abandoned their vehicles when they were close. Only possible explanation.

US trained them...

 

[Oldman1]

US trained them...

Through one of the Iraqi generals or some high ranking officer.

 

[1000]

Through one of the Iraqi generals or some high ranking officer.

You just said it yourself, problem is not the soldiers, it's the corruption and command / chain of command. Which is why the small militia's are more successful than the army despite them not having that much training. The militia's often recaptured equipment of the army taken by ISIS.

 

[Oldman1]

You just said it yourself, problem is not the soldiers, it's the corruption and command / chain of command. Which is why the small militia's are more successful than the army despite them not having that much training. The militia's often recaptured equipment of the army taken by ISIS.

Through Kurds no doubt.

 

[1000]

Through Kurds no doubt.

Shi'a militias I meant not Kurds, Kurds didn't go on the offensive in enemy areas just in friendly areas ( kurdish inhabited ), they didn't do that much impressive to start with, media got hyped up until ISIS attacked Sinjar.

quoting @Alshawi1234

The Iraqi army has a flawed chain of command filled with obstacle and corruption. Decisions need to be approved by multiple personal before being carried out, the battle with IS can't afford hat, it needs little armies that can make there own decisions.

That's why the "popular mobilization" forces have been much more successful, they are a an army made from the people for the people, they don't serve politicians.

In most of the operations various groups get together and agree for each group to hold an specific area and achieve the task, then these militias start operations with each group using their own tactics and own commands with needing to kiss a*s for every move.

They are organized, they secure the route and guard it in case of the front lines need reinforcements or a retreat occurs, once they get to a specific area, they use mortars and artillery while bomb experts disable IED's. they walk ON FOOT for miles to prevent IED attacks or possible ambush in vehicles.

 

[Oldman1]

Shi'a militias I meant not Kurds, Kurds didn't go on the offensive in enemy areas just in friendly areas ( kurdish inhabited ), they didn't do that much impressive to start with, media got hyped up until ISIS attacked Sinjar.

quoting @Alshawi1234

Isn't it problematic for Shiite militias to start going into Sunni territories and probably do revenge killings that could have more Sunnis joining the ISIS side?

 

[1000]

Isn't it problematic for Shiite militias to start going into Sunni territories and probably do revenge killings that could have more Sunnis joining the ISIS side?

Nowadays the majority of them are avoiding that, Sunnis requested their help in Anbar as well. But yes they're likely to kill any left ISIS supporters in the towns they capture, but at least it gets the job done like they cleaned jurf al sakhr, they're more effective than the army for the reasons given in the earlier post.

 

[Hindustani78]

Iraqi pilots begin F-16 training in USA - 1/2/2015 - Flight Global
2 Jan 2015

What about the F-16 Iraq been waiting on? I think F-16 would be more helpful right now, and the so called collation would have to work less on bombing their own terrorists... oh wait, if they give Iraq F-16 then Iraq will actually bomb I$I$ where the west and their puppet pretend to bomb I$I$ and make "Mistakes" dropping weapons to I$I$

US started giving training to Iraqi pilots on F 16 in Tucson, Arizona

 

[Oldman1]

Nowadays the majority of them are avoiding that, Sunnis requested their help in Anbar as well. But yes they're likely to kill any left ISIS supporters in the towns they capture, but at least it gets the job done like they cleaned jurf al sakhr, they're more effective than the army for the reasons given in the earlier post.

Well hopefully they can keep them in line. Don't want another Iraqi civil war last time.

 

[Alshawi1234]

Well hopefully they can keep them in line. Don't want another Iraqi civil war last time.

It's already a "civil war". But this times it's between the "Islamic state" and the state of Iraq.

The people supporting the "Islamic state" have given their Iraqi citizenship in exchange for becoming members of the "Islamic state". They welcome foreigners from all over the world to INVADE and settle in Iraq, they want to ethnically cleanse Iraq from 90% of its population.
When they say where they are from, they refer to the specific "walaya" in the "Islamic" state.

As for Baathist and the "iraqi revolution", it exists only in media, most of the advocates of the "Iraqi revolution" are considered infidels by IS and are not living in Iraq as IS executed most of the leaders of other groups including the "naqshabandi" and "Jaish almujahideen". The rest ran away from there own areas and are now calling for international intervention against IS. But they have no credibility right now and no takes them seriously.


In Anbar the situation is probably the worst out of all the other areas, IS has created a civil war that could never end except with one side winning. Not a shia-Sunni civil war, but a war between Sunni tribes themselves.

Isn't it problematic for Shiite militias to start going into Sunni territories and probably do revenge killings that could have more Sunnis joining the ISIS side?

It's basically a brick chose, there is no in between, the people are either with IS or they are not, these shia militias are helping Sunni areas which battled against IS, but they also depopulating areas which houses and joined IS.

But that is not exclusion to shia militias, different Sunni factions in Syria are doing the same against IS areas, and anti-IS Sunni tribes are also doing the same in Iraq as well.