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Sailors aboard the Los Angeles-class attack submarine USS Tucson (SSN-770) make preparations to get underway while in Subic Bay, Philippines. US Navy photo.


Ballistic missile submarines will once again make port calls in foreign countries, after more than a decade of boomer crews deploying without the possibility of mid-patrol liberty.

The Associated Press reported on Monday that USS Wyoming (SSBN-742) recently stopped in Faslane, Scotland, marking the first of what will become “occasional visits to foreign ports.”

Foreign visits by the boomer fleet, which carry nuclear-tipped weapons, were halted in 2003 in part due to post- Sept. 11 security concerns. Whereas attack submarines, which are smaller and carry only conventional weapons, may stop several times during a deployment in places like the Philippines, Diego Garcia and South Korea, the ballistic missile submarines surface rarely and may stop only at U.S. naval facilities around the world.

Retired Vice Adm. Michael Connor, who served as commander of Submarine Forces from September 2012 until September 2015, told the AP that the change was meant to both provide an opportunity to experience what the rest of the Navy fleet gets to do – see the world and interact with foreign counterparts – and emphasize the global presence of the boomer force.

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USS Rhode Island (SSBN-740) returns to Naval Submarine Base Kings Bay after three months at sea in 2013. US Navy Photo

“The fact that a port visit is a possibility, even if it can’t be delivered on every patrol, that is a big deal to the sailors. I know it was a big deal to me,” Connor told the AP.
“It’s a huge motivator. It’s a reason people want to be in the Navy. It’s a reason people want to be up to date on their qualifications so they’re allowed to go ashore and take this time.”

Connor told the AP that port visits stopped in 2003 after the Navy decided these important boats – one leg of the nation’s nuclear triad – could not assume any undue risk. Navy Cmdr. Tommy Crosby, spokesman for SUBFOR, told the AP that there were also fewer opportunities to do so, regardless of security concerns, as the fleet dropped from 18 boats to 14.

Crosby also told the AP that the primary reason for the Scotland visit was “to strengthen cooperation and interoperability between the U.S. and the U.K. and to demonstrate our capability, flexibility and continued commitment to our allies.”

Ballistic Missile Submarines Resume Making Foreign Port Calls After 12-Year Hiatus - USNI News
 

Sailors aboard the Los Angeles-class attack submarine USS Tucson (SSN-770) make preparations to get underway while in Subic Bay, Philippines. US Navy photo.


Ballistic missile submarines will once again make port calls in foreign countries, after more than a decade of boomer crews deploying without the possibility of mid-patrol liberty.

The Associated Press reported on Monday that USS Wyoming (SSBN-742) recently stopped in Faslane, Scotland, marking the first of what will become “occasional visits to foreign ports.”

Foreign visits by the boomer fleet, which carry nuclear-tipped weapons, were halted in 2003 in part due to post- Sept. 11 security concerns. Whereas attack submarines, which are smaller and carry only conventional weapons, may stop several times during a deployment in places like the Philippines, Diego Garcia and South Korea, the ballistic missile submarines surface rarely and may stop only at U.S. naval facilities around the world.

Retired Vice Adm. Michael Connor, who served as commander of Submarine Forces from September 2012 until September 2015, told the AP that the change was meant to both provide an opportunity to experience what the rest of the Navy fleet gets to do – see the world and interact with foreign counterparts – and emphasize the global presence of the boomer force.

web_130320-N-FG395-031.jpg

USS Rhode Island (SSBN-740) returns to Naval Submarine Base Kings Bay after three months at sea in 2013. US Navy Photo

“The fact that a port visit is a possibility, even if it can’t be delivered on every patrol, that is a big deal to the sailors. I know it was a big deal to me,” Connor told the AP.
“It’s a huge motivator. It’s a reason people want to be in the Navy. It’s a reason people want to be up to date on their qualifications so they’re allowed to go ashore and take this time.”

Connor told the AP that port visits stopped in 2003 after the Navy decided these important boats – one leg of the nation’s nuclear triad – could not assume any undue risk. Navy Cmdr. Tommy Crosby, spokesman for SUBFOR, told the AP that there were also fewer opportunities to do so, regardless of security concerns, as the fleet dropped from 18 boats to 14.

Crosby also told the AP that the primary reason for the Scotland visit was “to strengthen cooperation and interoperability between the U.S. and the U.K. and to demonstrate our capability, flexibility and continued commitment to our allies.”

Ballistic Missile Submarines Resume Making Foreign Port Calls After 12-Year Hiatus - USNI News

It will carry some risk, but how about port call when on training mission, without nukes, and not on regular patrol.
 
The JMSDF in PI!??! WTF? Really? We didn't know that!??! We did exercises with our Filipino counterparts in Bulacan and Nueva something near Manila and "some exercises" down "south" (wink wink) where the islands are gorgeous and beautiful but infested with you know what. It is really a beautiful country, nice and welcoming people. Hey @Cossack25A1 where are you buddy? Where is the lechon cebu?

@Nihonjin1051 have I told you my grandfather served in the PI?
 
The JMSDF in PI!??! WTF? Really? We didn't know that!??! We did exercises with our Filipino counterparts in Bulacan and Nueva something near Manila and "some exercises" down "south" (wink wink) where the islands are gorgeous and beautiful but infested with you know what. It is really a beautiful country, nice and welcoming people. Hey @Cossack25A1 where are you buddy? Where is the lechon cebu?

@Nihonjin1051 have I told you my grandfather served in the PI?

Yes, Japan and the Philippines have a long history together and despite sad events in WWII, post-war relations have been relatively productive and bilateral in nature. The JMSDF have been visiting the Philippines well since the early 1970s. :)

I have very fond memories of Manila in my early 20s. :)
 
Yes, Japan and the Philippines have a long history together and despite sad events in WWII, post-war relations have been relatively productive and bilateral in nature. The JMSDF have been visiting the Philippines well since the early 1970s. :)

I have very fond memories of Manila in my early 20s. :)
and what "FOND" memories might that be? You sneaky devil!!!

Forget about the war buddy. We all make mistakes. 95% of Japanese people nowadays was not even born during the war. It was not the fault of the Japanese people, it was the right wing nationalist in the military who is to blame. Wounds heal. Lets not dwell in the past and look forward to a bright future. We stayed briefly in Manila for 4 days I think. The Filipinos are a friendly bunch. I was there last 2006 before I left the service for an exercise.
 
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and what "FOND" memories that might be? You sneaky devil!!!

Forget about the war buddy. We all make mistakes. 95% of Japanese people nowadays was not even born during the war. It was not the fault of the Japanese people, it was the right wing nationalist in the military who is to blame. Wounds heal. Lets not dwell in the past and look forward to a bright future. We stayed briefly in Manila for 4 days I think. The Filipinos are a friendly bunch. I was there last 2006 before I left the service for an exercise.


Was there for a week training back in 2003 , and i can still remember the Filipino officers who we worked with in the naval department. Our logistical training was something they really admired and appreciated, our duties was to lecture on undersea communication lines particuarly regarding the Philippines' Batanes islands, since it is a strategic value for Japan as well as for the Philippines. Besides 'work' duties, i enjoyed how they treated us very warmly, and the people-to-people experiences such as going to the bars, and introducing us to genuine Filipino food. i LOVED it there. Food is good, people are friendly, the women are beautiful ( ;) ) , you know, and all that jazzz.....
 
Was there for a week training back in 2003 , and i can still remember the Filipino officers who we worked with in the naval department. Our logistical training was something they really admired and appreciated, our duties was to lecture on undersea communication lines particuarly regarding the Philippines' Batanes islands, since it is a strategic value for Japan as well as for the Philippines. Besides 'work' duties, i enjoyed how they treated us very warmly, and the people-to-people experiences such as going to the bars, and introducing us to genuine Filipino food. i LOVED it there. Food is good, people are friendly, the women are beautiful ( ;) ) , you know, and all that jazzz.....
Somehow I knew you'd say that buddy. Yeah those were the days!
 
The JMSDF in PI!??! WTF? Really? We didn't know that!??! We did exercises with our Filipino counterparts in Bulacan and Nueva something near Manila and "some exercises" down "south" (wink wink) where the islands are gorgeous and beautiful but infested with you know what. It is really a beautiful country, nice and welcoming people. Hey @Cossack25A1 where are you buddy? Where is the lechon cebu?

@Nihonjin1051 have I told you my grandfather served in the PI?

Still here, though not as active as before considering some "issues" in this forum regarding a certain group of people of a certain nationality.

I think it is Fort Magsaysay in Nueva Ecija you are referring to as the base bear Manila.
 
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