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US backs opening Taliban office in Qatar: Report
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pkuser2k12
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american's yaars here are defending USA decision as part of super secret plan of first luring afghan taliban in to talks and then by some merical totally wipe them out or making way for their exit and then eliminating them
these are the patwaries of USA and WEST always defending their every move and justifying their actions
these people are like
jeray jeetay oo day nal
or mayub loog like
the pandu who comes to city and is impressed with batian and amarats while for city people these are just normal things
like pandu they are mayub by their progress and see nothing else
koi haal nae
these are the patwaries of USA and WEST always defending their every move and justifying their actions
these people are like
jeray jeetay oo day nal
or mayub loog like
the pandu who comes to city and is impressed with batian and amarats while for city people these are just normal things
like pandu they are mayub by their progress and see nothing else
koi haal nae
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1) Haqqanis operate independently and seldom interact with other groups.
2) I don't know who sketched this ideal and peaceful landscape for you, Mir Ali is still better but Faujis don't even leave the fort in Miranshah without an ROD, and you are talking about drinking tea with militants? This isn't Kissakhwani bazar, my friend!
The Haqqanis only came about in the late 90s, I don't know who you got this timeline from.
The Haqqanis are independent of the Afghan Taliban, they have about as much influence with them as we do.
The Haqqanis hide in NWA and operate in neighbouring provinces, hardly much strategic advantage there.
The Haqqanis are not even involved in the entire episode and Pakistan has no role in the talks. The talks haven't even started yet.
Indeed they are, which just goes to show that if the Haqqanis were so indebted to us, they would be offering some resistance to the local brand of miscreants.
Al Bhatti
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May 1, 2015
Qatar to host talks between Taliban, Afghan delegation
Meeting could mark significant step towards opening formal talks to ending the war
An Afghan delegation is headed to Qatar for "open discussions" with representatives of Taliban insurgents over the next few days aimed at ending Afghanistan's long war, officials said on Friday.
The scheduled meeting would mark a significant step towards opening formal talks to ending the war, but it was not clear on Friday whether the Taliban's reclusive supreme leader had approved them.
Pakistan's army chief told Afghan President Ashraf Ghani in February that senior figures in the Taliban were open to direct talks with Kabul to end the war, but until now there had been little sign of progress.
The 20-member Afghan delegation will attend preliminary talks set for Sunday and Monday, said Attaullah Ludin, deputy chief of the country's High Peace Council.
"The open discussions are based on peace in Afghanistan. There will be representatives from Afghanistan, Pakistan, the Taliban and some other organisations," Ludin said.
He added that members of the High Peace Council would be meeting the Taliban in Qatar and also two representatives of Hizb-i-Islami, another militant group fighting Afghanistan's US-backed government that also has a political wing.
A senior Taliban official in Qatar confirmed that a meeting was set for the next several days with Afghan figures, as well as some from Pakistan and other countries.
The Taliban official also said that Hizb-i-Islami figures would participate in the meeting. He spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorised to reveal the talks.
"It's top secret so far," he said.
Qatar to host talks between Taliban, Afghan delegation | GulfNews.com
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Qatar to host talks between Taliban, Afghan delegation
Meeting could mark significant step towards opening formal talks to ending the war
An Afghan delegation is headed to Qatar for "open discussions" with representatives of Taliban insurgents over the next few days aimed at ending Afghanistan's long war, officials said on Friday.
The scheduled meeting would mark a significant step towards opening formal talks to ending the war, but it was not clear on Friday whether the Taliban's reclusive supreme leader had approved them.
Pakistan's army chief told Afghan President Ashraf Ghani in February that senior figures in the Taliban were open to direct talks with Kabul to end the war, but until now there had been little sign of progress.
The 20-member Afghan delegation will attend preliminary talks set for Sunday and Monday, said Attaullah Ludin, deputy chief of the country's High Peace Council.
"The open discussions are based on peace in Afghanistan. There will be representatives from Afghanistan, Pakistan, the Taliban and some other organisations," Ludin said.
He added that members of the High Peace Council would be meeting the Taliban in Qatar and also two representatives of Hizb-i-Islami, another militant group fighting Afghanistan's US-backed government that also has a political wing.
A senior Taliban official in Qatar confirmed that a meeting was set for the next several days with Afghan figures, as well as some from Pakistan and other countries.
The Taliban official also said that Hizb-i-Islami figures would participate in the meeting. He spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorised to reveal the talks.
"It's top secret so far," he said.
Qatar to host talks between Taliban, Afghan delegation | GulfNews.com
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So Qatar has a had a taliban office since 2011? 
Plus who is America to give permission for whats happening in Qatar? Qatar is an independent country no one goes around giving a thumbs up for anything to open in USA...
Secondly I thought America doesnt negotiate with terrorists but what is this drama?
Plus who is America to give permission for whats happening in Qatar? Qatar is an independent country no one goes around giving a thumbs up for anything to open in USA...
Secondly I thought America doesnt negotiate with terrorists but what is this drama?
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4 May 2015
Afghan talks agree on reopening Taleban political office
The dialogue was a step toward a peace process that has proved elusive during a war that has killed tens of thousands of Afghans since the Taleban were driven from power by a 2001 U.S.-led military operation.
Representatives at preliminary talks aiming to end Afghanistan’s long war have agreed that Taleban insurgents should open a political office for negotiations, but disagreement over foreign troops still clouds the prospects for a ceasefire.
A statement issued on Monday outlined the agreements reached by at least 40 delegates to a “non-official meeting” bringing together Taleban representatives, Afghan government figures and UN representatives at a two-day meeting held in Qatar.
The dialogue was a step toward a peace process that has proved elusive during a war that has killed tens of thousands of Afghans since the Taleban were driven from power by a 2001 US-led military operation.
Delegates agreed the Taleban should re-open a political office in Doha that caused a furore in 2013 when it was briefly inaugurated as part of a previous, failed attempt to start negotiations.
At the televised inauguration ceremony, the Taleban representatives raised the flag of their former regime, enraging then-president Hamid Karzai and dooming hoped-for talks.
Afghanistan’s new leader, Ashraf Ghani, has made negotiations a priority since taking office last year.
The delegates also called for the removal of key Taleban leaders’ names from a UN terrorism blacklist so they could travel to negotiations, according to the statement by the Pugwash Council, a global organisation that promotes conflict resolution. It co-hosted the talks with Qatar’s government.
Pugwash said more than 40 representatives including several Afghan women had attended the Qatar meeting.
However, there was no progress on the main obstacle to a ceasefire - the continued presence of around 10,000 US military trainers and counter-terrorism forces.
The talks ended on Sunday with pledges to hold a similar dialogue in the future.
The informal talks came as fighting escalated after the withdrawal of most US and allied troops. The Taleban recently launched an offensive in northern Afghanistan that brought its fighters to the outskirts of Kunduz city, a provincial capital.
The Afghan government has made no official statement on the meetings, though members of the country’s High Peace Council attended.
One Taleban participant in the talks told Reuters an eight-member Taleban delegation had held direct talks with Afghan officials.
“The Afghan delegation and Qayyum Kochai, uncle of (Afghan) President Ashraf Ghani, demanded we stop our fighting and announce a ceasefire,” he said.
The Taleban said they would not stop fighting until all foreign forces had left Afghanistan, he said.
The government delegation argued that most foreigners had already left and only trainers remained, who would also leave if the Taleban stopped fighting, he said.
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/kt-arti...5/May/middleeast_May47.xml§ion=middleeast
Afghan talks agree on reopening Taleban political office
The dialogue was a step toward a peace process that has proved elusive during a war that has killed tens of thousands of Afghans since the Taleban were driven from power by a 2001 U.S.-led military operation.
Representatives at preliminary talks aiming to end Afghanistan’s long war have agreed that Taleban insurgents should open a political office for negotiations, but disagreement over foreign troops still clouds the prospects for a ceasefire.
A statement issued on Monday outlined the agreements reached by at least 40 delegates to a “non-official meeting” bringing together Taleban representatives, Afghan government figures and UN representatives at a two-day meeting held in Qatar.
The dialogue was a step toward a peace process that has proved elusive during a war that has killed tens of thousands of Afghans since the Taleban were driven from power by a 2001 US-led military operation.
Delegates agreed the Taleban should re-open a political office in Doha that caused a furore in 2013 when it was briefly inaugurated as part of a previous, failed attempt to start negotiations.
At the televised inauguration ceremony, the Taleban representatives raised the flag of their former regime, enraging then-president Hamid Karzai and dooming hoped-for talks.
Afghanistan’s new leader, Ashraf Ghani, has made negotiations a priority since taking office last year.
The delegates also called for the removal of key Taleban leaders’ names from a UN terrorism blacklist so they could travel to negotiations, according to the statement by the Pugwash Council, a global organisation that promotes conflict resolution. It co-hosted the talks with Qatar’s government.
Pugwash said more than 40 representatives including several Afghan women had attended the Qatar meeting.
However, there was no progress on the main obstacle to a ceasefire - the continued presence of around 10,000 US military trainers and counter-terrorism forces.
The talks ended on Sunday with pledges to hold a similar dialogue in the future.
The informal talks came as fighting escalated after the withdrawal of most US and allied troops. The Taleban recently launched an offensive in northern Afghanistan that brought its fighters to the outskirts of Kunduz city, a provincial capital.
The Afghan government has made no official statement on the meetings, though members of the country’s High Peace Council attended.
One Taleban participant in the talks told Reuters an eight-member Taleban delegation had held direct talks with Afghan officials.
“The Afghan delegation and Qayyum Kochai, uncle of (Afghan) President Ashraf Ghani, demanded we stop our fighting and announce a ceasefire,” he said.
The Taleban said they would not stop fighting until all foreign forces had left Afghanistan, he said.
The government delegation argued that most foreigners had already left and only trainers remained, who would also leave if the Taleban stopped fighting, he said.
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/kt-arti...5/May/middleeast_May47.xml§ion=middleeast
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Taliban open to talks, but only if US forces leave
Taliban also seek removal of key leaders from terror blacklist
The Taliban declared on Monday that it was open to peace talks with the Afghan government, but only if all US and other international forces withdraw from Afghanistan and key Taliban figures are removed from a UN terrorism blacklist.
The lengthy statement, posted on one of the group’s known websites, came after two days of informal meetings with Afghan government representatives in Qatar, where both sides were swift to clarify that they were not holding peace negotiations. The discussions ended with no agreement except to hold a second meeting in the near future.
The delegates, however, did agree that the Taliban should reopen a political office briefly set up in Qatar in 2013 in a step toward possible peace talks, according to the meeting’s organiser, the Pugwash Conferences on Science and World Affairs, a Nobel Peace Prize-winning organisation dedicated to promoting peace. The insurgent group’s statement also reflected that intent.
Bringing the Taliban to the negotiating table, and possibly into the government, has become a cornerstone of Afghan President Ashraf Gani’s efforts to end the conflict in his country. Expectations were raised this weekend by the discussions in Qatar, the latest in a series of efforts over the years to jump-start a peace process.
“First of all, America and its allies should put an end to their occupation, and that will facilitate the way to peace talks,” reads the Taliban statement, written in the Pashto language and posted on the Alemara1.org website. “The countries in the region also don’t want the foreign forces. The ongoing occupation means the ongoing fight will continue.”
The Qatar talks come just days after the Taliban launched its spring offensive. Some observers view the ongoing fighting as a strategic move by the group to gain more influence in possible peace negotiations. But the Taliban’s insistence on a complete withdrawal of foreign troops raises questions about whether peace talks are a realistic possibility in upcoming months. On Gani’s request, President Barack Obama has slowed the drawdown of the roughly 10,000 US troops remaining in Afghanistan.
Meanwhile, the Taliban shows no signs of stopping its attacks. On Monday, a suicide bomber in Kabul targeted a bus carrying government workers, killing one person. And late Sunday, Taliban fighters killed at least 18 police officers in the northeastern province of Badakhshan, said Shah Waliullah Adeeb, the province’s governor.
On Monday, the Taliban also listed other “obstacles to peace talks,” such as what it described as the “imprisoning and torturing” of innocent Afghans, night raids on suspected militant targets by US and Afghan forces, and the placing of Taliban leaders on the UN blacklist.
“In peace talks, it is important that both sides continue talks in a free environment, without any pressure,” reads the statement. “If one side is on a blacklist and cannot travel freely and the other side is free, then such an unbalanced process can’t go forward. It won’t have a conclusive result.”
The insurgents also declared that the current Afghan constitution “is not acceptable, because it has been copied from the West’s laws under the shadow of [American] B-52 planes.”
Still, the Taliban also suggested that it was willing to soften its stance on some issues to facilitate a peace process. It said it was willing to accept a government system that “gives the right of education for women and men” and allows “freedom of expression.” Women’s rights activists have expressed concern that hard-fought gains for Afghan women since the Taliban regime’s ouster in 2001 could erode if the group were to enter the government.
There have been other meetings between the Taliban and Afghan government representatives over the years, but none as open as the current discussions. The Taliban sent an eight-member delegation, including senior officials. The government’s team included Gani’s uncle and representatives from Afghanistan’s three major ethnic groups.
Taliban open to talks, but only if US forces leave | GulfNews.com
Taliban open to talks, but only if US forces leave
Taliban also seek removal of key leaders from terror blacklist
The Taliban declared on Monday that it was open to peace talks with the Afghan government, but only if all US and other international forces withdraw from Afghanistan and key Taliban figures are removed from a UN terrorism blacklist.
The lengthy statement, posted on one of the group’s known websites, came after two days of informal meetings with Afghan government representatives in Qatar, where both sides were swift to clarify that they were not holding peace negotiations. The discussions ended with no agreement except to hold a second meeting in the near future.
The delegates, however, did agree that the Taliban should reopen a political office briefly set up in Qatar in 2013 in a step toward possible peace talks, according to the meeting’s organiser, the Pugwash Conferences on Science and World Affairs, a Nobel Peace Prize-winning organisation dedicated to promoting peace. The insurgent group’s statement also reflected that intent.
Bringing the Taliban to the negotiating table, and possibly into the government, has become a cornerstone of Afghan President Ashraf Gani’s efforts to end the conflict in his country. Expectations were raised this weekend by the discussions in Qatar, the latest in a series of efforts over the years to jump-start a peace process.
“First of all, America and its allies should put an end to their occupation, and that will facilitate the way to peace talks,” reads the Taliban statement, written in the Pashto language and posted on the Alemara1.org website. “The countries in the region also don’t want the foreign forces. The ongoing occupation means the ongoing fight will continue.”
The Qatar talks come just days after the Taliban launched its spring offensive. Some observers view the ongoing fighting as a strategic move by the group to gain more influence in possible peace negotiations. But the Taliban’s insistence on a complete withdrawal of foreign troops raises questions about whether peace talks are a realistic possibility in upcoming months. On Gani’s request, President Barack Obama has slowed the drawdown of the roughly 10,000 US troops remaining in Afghanistan.
Meanwhile, the Taliban shows no signs of stopping its attacks. On Monday, a suicide bomber in Kabul targeted a bus carrying government workers, killing one person. And late Sunday, Taliban fighters killed at least 18 police officers in the northeastern province of Badakhshan, said Shah Waliullah Adeeb, the province’s governor.
On Monday, the Taliban also listed other “obstacles to peace talks,” such as what it described as the “imprisoning and torturing” of innocent Afghans, night raids on suspected militant targets by US and Afghan forces, and the placing of Taliban leaders on the UN blacklist.
“In peace talks, it is important that both sides continue talks in a free environment, without any pressure,” reads the statement. “If one side is on a blacklist and cannot travel freely and the other side is free, then such an unbalanced process can’t go forward. It won’t have a conclusive result.”
The insurgents also declared that the current Afghan constitution “is not acceptable, because it has been copied from the West’s laws under the shadow of [American] B-52 planes.”
Still, the Taliban also suggested that it was willing to soften its stance on some issues to facilitate a peace process. It said it was willing to accept a government system that “gives the right of education for women and men” and allows “freedom of expression.” Women’s rights activists have expressed concern that hard-fought gains for Afghan women since the Taliban regime’s ouster in 2001 could erode if the group were to enter the government.
There have been other meetings between the Taliban and Afghan government representatives over the years, but none as open as the current discussions. The Taliban sent an eight-member delegation, including senior officials. The government’s team included Gani’s uncle and representatives from Afghanistan’s three major ethnic groups.
Taliban open to talks, but only if US forces leave | GulfNews.com
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