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KABUL: Afghan President Hamid Karzai on Sunday accused the Taliban and the US of working in concert to convince Afghans that violence will worsen if most foreign troops leave — an allegation the top American commander in Afghanistan rejected as "categorically false".

Karzai said two suicide bombings that killed 19 people on Saturday — one outside the Afghan defence ministry and the other near a police checkpoint in eastern Khost province — show the insurgent group is conducting attacks to help show that international forces will still be needed to keep the peace after their current combat mission ends in 2014.

"The explosions in Kabul and Khost yesterday showed that they are at the service of America and at the service of this phrase: 2014. They are trying to frighten us into thinking that if the foreigners are not in Afghanistan, we would be facing these sorts of incidents," he said during a nationally televised speech about the state of Afghan women.

US and Nato forces commander Gen Joseph Dunford said Karzai had never expressed such views to him, but said it was understandable that tensions would arise as the coalition balances the need to complete its mission and the Afghans' move to exercise more sovereignty.

"We have fought too hard over the past 12 years, we have shed too much blood over the last 12 years, to ever think that violence or instability would be to our advantage," Dunford said.

Karzai is known for making incendiary comments in his public speeches, a move that is often attributed to him trying to appeal to those who sympathize with the Taliban or as a way to gain leverage when he feels his international allies are ignoring his country's sovereignty. In previous speeches, he has threatened to join the Taliban and called his Nato allies occupiers who want to plunder Afghanistan's resources.

Karzai also denounced the arrest of a university student on Saturday by Afghan forces his aide said were working for the CIA. It was unclear why the student was detained.

Presidential spokesman Aimal Faizi said the CIA freed the student after Karzai's staff intervened, but that Karzai wants the Afghan raiders arrested. The president issued a decree on Sunday banning all foreign forces from universities and schools unless they obtain prior permission from the Afghan government.

The Karzai government's latest comments and actions come as it negotiates a pact with the US for the long-term presence of American forces in Afghanistan and just days after an agreement to transfer the US prison outside of Kabul to Afghan authority fell through. They also came during US defense secretary Chuck Hagel's first visit to Afghanistan since becoming the Pentagon chief.

Karzai said in his speech that any foreign powers that want to keep troops in Afghanistan need to do so under conditions set forward by Afghanistan.

"We will tell them where we need them, and under which conditions. They must respect our laws. They must respect the national sovereignty of our country and must respect all our customs," Karzai said.

Karzai offered no proof of coordination, but said the Taliban and the United States were in "daily negotiations" in various foreign countries and noted that the United States has said that it no longer considers the insurgent group its enemy. The US continues to fight against the Taliban and other militant groups, but has expressed its backing for formal peace talks with the Taliban to find a political resolution to the war.

Karzai said he did not believe the Taliban's claim that they launched Saturday's attacks to show they are still a potent force fighting the United States. "Yesterday's explosions, which the Taliban claimed, show that in reality they are saying they want the presence of foreigners in Afghanistan," Karzai said.

In the arrest of the college student, Faizi said the raiders fired shots as they grabbed the student Saturday from a Kandahar university, and blindfolded him before taking him for interrogation at a CIA post that Taliban leader Mullah Omar once used as a home.

The CIA could not be reached for comment.

The CIA has trained an Afghan counterterrorist force several thousand strong, known as the Counterterrorism Pursuit Team that works mostly in insurgent strongholds in southern and eastern Afghanistan. US officials say they work with the Afghan intelligence service, but Karzai frequently complains he lacks oversight over their operations.

US and Taliban are colluding, Hamid Karzai alleges - The Times of India

How come this puppet keeps biting his masters who instated him every now and then.
 
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Salaam to all the Mulsims,

:pakistan:

Yeh kon sa drama Karzai Sahib ab kar rahay hain?

661 days to go until January 1, 2015.

Salaam to all the Muslims.
 
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I think this statement is due to him knowing that once US leaves, he will be kicked out of the presidency before he can spell 'help'. So he needs to convince the US and Obama to hold off the Taliban.
 
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I think this statement is due to him knowing that once US leaves, he will be kicked out of the presidency before he can spell 'help'. So he needs to convince the US and Obama to hold off the Taliban.

Salaam to all the Muslims,

:pakistan:

I think Americans forgot to tell Karzai Sahib back in 2001 that he can't be the President of Afghanistan forever.

Salaam to all the Muslims.
 
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@gambit - The beginning of the end?

@sherMalang - How bright doez the sunz shinez in Kabul nowz a dayz.. countdown haz begun..
 
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Salaam to all the Muslims,

:pakistan:

Just look at the size and ferocity of the Taliban attacks:


Quite intimidating.

Salaam to all the Muslims
 
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karzai is tool if he is thinking that ANA with no air support no Real artillery /armored Support will be able to deal with Talibans without negotiations when the nato leaves with every thing No way jose
 
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dude the guy that was giving the briefing was wearing aCU some thing is defiantly not right with that picture
 
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@gambit - The beginning of the end?
The US should leave Afghanistan. This is definitive proof that even though 'nation-building' is always a viable option and can be successful, vis-a-vis post WW II Japan and post war South Korea, such ventures should be even more selective with the ME on the bottom of the list of candidates for elevation into modernity.
 
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Already posted.

and its interesting to see that Karzai wants US exit and at the top of that blames Taliban that Taliban wants US to stay.

In the past Karzai had been asking US to stay and now when US policy has come clear on exit Karzai is trying to sell the idea that US-Taliban are cooperating for longer stay of Americans
 
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That's what I have been saying from day one. Not even God, himself, can help this nation and it's people. Mark my words regarding Tajiks/Chechens/Uzbeks, whom you are dealing with... they will sell their mothers for a penny.

The US should leave Afghanistan. This is definitive proof that even though 'nation-building' is always a viable option and can be successful, vis-a-vis post WW II Japan and post war South Korea, such ventures should be even more selective with the ME on the bottom of the list of candidates for elevation into modernity.
 
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That's what I have been saying from day one. Not even God, himself, can help this nation and it's people. Mark my words regarding Tajiks/Chechens/Uzbeks, whom you are dealing with... they will sell their mothers for a penny.
The problem have many facets and it goes beyond Afghanistan.

When we defeated the Taliban, whatever leftover was no more attractive than what was ejected. Pancreatic or liver cancer? Those were the choices we had because those were the choices the region, not just the country called Afghanistan, is best capable of producing -- to varying degrees. If the Taliban was a '10' on a 1-10 scale of odiousness with 10 being the worst, then what was leftover was 9.9. The entire ME is best at producing leaders between 7 and 10. Like it or not, that is the ME's history since the end of colonialism.

So do we live with liver cancer after we largely 'cured' pancreatic cancer? Or should we embark on a new program of nation-building starting with a reasonably clean slate? The thing is -- despite all the charges leveled at US for 'imposing' democracy and our values in Afghanistan, no one could do anything different. If it was the Saudis, they would have 'impose' their brand of Islam and political values. If it was Pakistan -- same. If it was Marvin the Martian -- no different. Everybody is going to try nation-building with values they know best.
 
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Karzai is a paranoid and delusional wreck. He might end up hanging from a lamp post like another Afghan president if he doesnt step down and let someone who is sane take over.
 
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Karzai is a paranoid and delusional wreck. He might end up hanging from a lamp post like another Afghan president if he doesnt step down and let someone who is sane take over.
The problem is that he is probably the sanest Afghanistan can produce.
 
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