US & Afghan Shelter Baluch Terrorists and Assist Escape to Switzerland

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

On the run: Brahamdagh’s asylum in Switzerland opposed​

By Qaiser Butt
Published: March 30, 2011

Pakistan conveys objections to Swiss authorities over Baloch leader’s plea.
ISLAMABAD:

Pakistan has strongly opposed a plea by a Baloch separatist leader for political asylum in Switzerland, The Express Tribune has learnt.

The foreign ministry has conveyed to the Swiss mission in Islamabad its reservations on the move by Nawabzada Brahamdagh Bugti, who also heads the Balochistan Republican Party, a splinter group of the Jamhoori Wattan Party (JWP), official sources said.

Islamabad has also asked its ambassador in Berne to take up the issue with the Swiss authorities.

On a formal request from the Balochistan government, the interior ministry had asked the foreign ministry to oppose the request by Brahamdagh, a grandson of the slain Bugti chieftain Nawab Akbar Bugti.

The Swiss authorities have been informed that the secessionist leader was wanted on charges of anti-state activities in Pakistan.

Brahamdagh, who secretly flew to Switzerland from Kabul along with his family and two associates last year, had submitted the application for political asylum early this year.

“Apparently Islamabad is opposed to Brahamdagh’s plea, but at the same time it is satisfied that he will not be able to stoke the Baloch insurgency from Switzerland,” a government source told The Express Tribune. “For this reason we are not demanding his extradition,” he added.

Pakistan had repeatedly said that Brahamdagh was hiding in Kabul from where he had been spearheading the Baloch insurgency. And the matter was taken up with Afghan President Hamid Karzai, when he visited Islamabad last time. He had reportedly promised to look into the matter.

“Under mounting pressure from the Pakistan government, Brahamdagh was forced by the Afghan government to leave the country,” the source said.

However, Brahamdagh’s supporters in Quetta claim that he left Afghanistan following reports that Pakistani agencies had hired an Afghan journalist to assassinate him in Kabul.

Another official source claimed that Brahamdagh possesses Indian, Afghan and Pakistani passports. “He was being funded by Indian spy agencies through Arjun Das Bugti, a close aide of the late Nawab Akbar Bugti,” the source added.

Nawab Akbar Bugti had awarded the tribal name of Bugti to local Hindus and supported Arjun Das for the office of deputy speaker of the Balochistan Assembly from the JWP platform.

Arjun had migrated to India a few years ago where he was granted Indian nationality.

If the Swiss government accepts his plea, Brahamdagh would be the third Baloch nationalist leader to get political asylum in Europe.

Earlier Britain had granted asylum to Baloch leader Hyrbyair Marri. And another Baloch nationalist, Prince Salman of Qalat, was also granted asylum in Britain where he had set up ‘Government of Balochistan in exile.’

Published in The Express Tribune, March 30th, 2011.

On the run: Brahamdagh

And in case anyone thinks the US and Afghanistan had no idea about what was happening, wikileaks blew the lid off of that lie a long time ago:

WikiLeaks cables reveal Afghan-Pakistani row over fugitive rebel | World news | The Guardian

Wah ji Wah!

Afghanistan and the US can ‘shelter’ and ‘assist in traveling’ wanted terrorist leaders from Pakistan, but Pakistan is blamed for ‘sheltering OBL and Mullah Omar’ despite no actual evidence to support that claim.

So what does the ‘baigharat liberal brigade’ have to say about the US now?

Should we not expect the same sorts of condemnation for the US and Afghanistan in ‘sheltering and supporting terrorist proxies against other nations’ that the liberals typically reserve for the Army and ISI?

 

[Patriot]

These people are notorious for supporting insurgencies in different countries.For example France is a major hub how it sheltered the Khomeini during the reovlution

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Perhaps Switzerland should offer to also provide 'Asylum' to Mullah Omar, Osama Bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri.



I'm sorry, but for all the Pakistani 'liberal's out there denigrating their fellow Pakistanis for being 'conspiracy theorists' for suggesting US involvement in the terrorism in Baluchistan and elsewhere, 'shove it up your collective arses'.

There can be little more to conclusively show that the most wanted Baluch terrorist leader in Pakistan was sheltered and supported in Afghanistan by the Afghans and Americans, and then allowed to travel to Switzerland and seek asylum.

WTF?

Are they offering him a free Chateau as well?

Treacherous lying scumbags.

 

[BelligerentPacifist]

m u l l a fellows.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

I have to say that I am far more inclined to believe Iranian claims of US and British support for Jundullah and other terrorists attacking Iran, after reading this.

If the US can blatantly support a most wanted terrorist leader against a nation that it is an ostensible 'ally' of, then it is certainly capable of everything the Iranians have accused it of.

So was Raymond Davis gathering information against LeT and associated groups, or was he in contact with extremists in order to provide direct and indirect support to them to attack Pakistan and Pakistanis? I don't think the latter argument looks as outlandish as some had argued.

 

[Patriot]

I have to say that I am far more inclined to believe Iranian claims of US and British support for Jundullah and other terrorists attacking Iran, after reading this.

If the US can blatantly support a most wanted terrorist leader against a nation that it is an ostensible 'ally' of, then it is certainly capable of everything the Iranians have accused it of.

So was Raymond Davis gathering information against LeT and associated groups, or was he in contact with extremists in order to provide direct and indirect support to them to attack Pakistan and Pakistanis? I don't think the latter argument looks as outlandish as some had argued.

GOTUS/CIA have worked with far worse people on earth.
Just read this on Wikipedia
Manuel Noriega - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

At his trial, Noriega intended to defend himself by presenting his alleged crimes within the framework of his work for the US Central Intelligence Agency. The government objected to any disclosure of the purposes for which the United States had paid Noriega because this information was classified and its disclosure went against the interests of the United States. In pre-trial proceedings, the government offered to stipulate that Noriega had received approximately $320,000 from the United States Army and the Central Intelligence Agency. Noriega insisted that "the actual figure approached $10,000,000, and that he should be allowed to disclose the tasks he had performed for the United States". The district court held that the "information about the content of the discrete operations in which Noriega had engaged in exchange for the alleged payments was irrelevant to his defense". It ruled that the introduction of evidence about Noriega's role in the CIA would "confuse the jury".

On December 20, 1989, the United States invaded Panama as part of Operation Just Cause, which involved 25,000 American troops. Gen. Manuel Noriega, head of the government of Panama, had been giving military assistance to Contra groups in Nicaragua at the request of the U.S. which, in exchange, allowed him to continue his drug trafficking activities, which they had known about since the 1960s.[54][55] When the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) tried to indict Noriega in 1971, the CIA prevented them from doing so.[54] The CIA, which was then directed by future president George H. W. Bush, provided Noriega with hundreds of thousands of dollars per year as payment for his work in Latin America.,[54] When CIA pilot Eugene Hasenfus was shot down over Nicaragua by the Sandinistas, documents aboard the plane revealed many of the CIA's activities in Latin America, and the CIA's connections with Noriega became a public relations "liability" for the U.S. government, which finally allowed the DEA to indict him for drug trafficking, after decades of allowing his drug operations to proceed unchecked.[54] Operation Just Cause, whose purpose was to capture Noriega, killed numerous Panamanian civilians; Noriega found temporary asylum in the Papal Nuncio, and surrendered to U.S. soldiers on January 3, 1990.[56] He was sentenced by a court in Miami to 45 years in prison.

War on Drugs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Vassnti]

A minor point but where does it say the US has him? The Guardian article even says the US want to swap him for Barader but dont seem to know where he is. Locations are listed as Normay, Swiss, UAE Afghanistan and possibly Britian i dont see any where in either article saying the US has him or even knows where he is, they had to go through Karzai to even get a message to him.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

A minor point but where does it say the US has him? The Guardian article even says the US want to swap him for Barader but dont seem to know where he is. Locations are listed as Normay, Swiss, UAE Afghanistan and possibly Britian i dont see any where in either article saying the US has him or even knows where he is, they had to go through Karzai to even get a message to him.

Karzai admitted he was being sheltered by the GoA in Kabul, the US and even the UN knew about it. Musharraf was screaming about it till he got kicked out.

Are you seriously going to tell me that despite Karzai acknowledging that he was sheltering Bugti (even ignoring the absurd argument that somehow the US had no clue till Karzai told them, despite Musharraf screaming about it every chance he got), US intelligence had no clue about a 'most wanted terrorist' living under their noses in Kabul?

That US intelligence had no clue that he flew out of Afghanistan to Switzerland, or wherever?

BS - and if US intelligence has no clue about terrorists living under its noses in Kabul and taking commercial flights to European nations, the Pakistan Army and ISI certainly cannot be blamed for Mullah Omar and OBL allegedly hiding in Pakistan, given that Pakistan has nowhere close to the capabilities that the CIA does.

 

[Truth Teller]

so pakistanis,why are not you responding to this..........?

 

[Leader]

they saved a guy who was going to be persecuted by the Pakistanies... are we pakistanies so ________ by nature that we cannot even resolve our issues with our own fellow country men and stupid enough to blame it on neighbouring country and america ?


Instead of blaming and cursing others, one should know why RD got away?

 

[Leader]

self delete

 

[LeGenD]

they saved a guy who was going to be persecuted by the Pakistanies... are we pakistanies so ________ by nature that we cannot even resolve our issues with our own fellow country men and stupid enough to blame it on neighbouring country and america ?


Instead of blaming and cursing others, one should know why RD got away?

Brother, we have found a scapegoat in devils like US and Afghanistan. It is always THEM against US.

Our military establishment (even with long political exposure) only knows how to crush internal problems. It does not knows how to address the root causes of those problems.

Do any pro-military personality here realizes that for how long Balochistan has been the most ignored province in Pakistan?

In China; its top brass is reaching out and trying to integrate local people from remote and unstable regions around the country in to parts of the society where development is at its peak. This is an example of a sound strategy.

Our scenario is all nicely summed up here:

Inspired in part by the Sardars [tribal chiefs] who fear loss of power if the province develops economically, the movement has at times threatened the integrity of the Pakistani state. Grievances harbored by the Baluch stem from their economic deprivations. Baluchistan has economic resources which the successive federal governments have exploited without either due acknowledgement of Baluchistan's contribution to the national economy or recompense in monetary or financial measures. Natural gas deposits were found in the Sui area in 1953 and in Pirkoh in 1982. The natural gas deposits of Baluchistan cater in a very large measure to the running of industries, factories, businesses and domestic usage in all of the provinces of Pakistan. The Baluch nationalists claim that the royalties received from these projects are next to negligible.

Baloch nationalists demanding greater political rights, autonomy and control over their natural resources, have led four insurgencies - in 1948, 1958-59, 1962-63 and 1973-77 - which have been brutally suppressed by the army. Now a fifth is underway and this time the insurgents have gone a step further and are striving for seccession. Violence in Baluchistan historically has been the product of several factors: a fiercely independent Baluch people that eschew outside interference; the lasting legacy of British policy; mismanagement by ruling Pakistani regimes; and historical grievances that have allowed Baluch leaders to mobilize support for their nationalist cause. The most recent surge of violence in Baluchistan is a result of a change in the relationship between the central government and Baluchistan brought about by the province's growing strategic significance.

Source is GlobalSecurity.

See? This is the mentality of Pakistani military establishment.

 

[Truth Teller]

Brother, we have found a scapegoat in devils like US and Afghanistan. It is always THEM against US.

Our military establishment (even with long political exposure) only knows how to crush internal problems. It does not knows how to address the root causes of those problems.

Do any pro-military personality here realizes that for how long Balochistan has been the most ignored province in Pakistan?

In China; its top brass is reaching out and trying to integrate local people from remote and unstable regions around the country in to parts of the society where development is at its peak. This is an example of a sound strategy.

Our scenario is all nicely summed up here:


Source is GlobalSecurity.

See? This is the mentality of Pakistani military establishment.

right.pakistani government and pakistani public has not worked hard enough to convince balochi ppl we have our loyalty towards them.we have to convince the balochi ppl.

pakistan has to convince the balochi people,for a long-term solution on this sepratist issue.

but this thread is about afghanistan and USA who accuse pakistan of harbouring terrorists(with out any solid proof),but at the same time are openly harbouring bugti.

 

[Leader]

Legend @
Our military establishment (even with long political exposure) only knows how to crush internal problems. It does not knows how to address the root causes of those problems.


couldnt agree more. their strategy is wrong from the very beginning, it is mainly because they are characterless people and deserve not to be in the positions they are/were.

 

[Leader]

right.pakistani government and pakistani public has not worked hard enough to convince balochi ppl we have our loyalty towards them.we have to convince the balochi ppl.

pakistan has to convince the balochi people,for a long-term solution on this sepratist issue.

but this thread is about afghanistan and USA who accuse pakistan of harbouring terrorists(with out any solid proof),but at the same time are openly harbouring bugti.

I remember when Sardar Akhtar Mengal was brought in court of law in a cage, and he remained in a cage inside the court during the hearing....

just imagnine this incident with your own very father, or your own self...... I being in Lahore, got nothing to do with what happens in Balochistan, was so offended...how does it feel being Baloch?

we need to learn manners even, how Shahzain Bhugti was treaty by the security forces on a complete false and rediculous alegations....its simply shameful on our part.... to honour the enemy is a far cry !!