Uri attack: Can India launch a covert operation across the border?

[Mrc]

Rumor is they are fuelling a sukhoi su 30 MAKHI ....

Only problem is that the pilot is not opening the cap of fuelling tank


Just a rumour

 

[punit]

Now Army doing Stupid moves Why waste Strategic asset when you do this Job by Paying Mercenaries

exactly ! but the its TOILET news paper so !

 

[That Guy]

Modi isn't stupid, he won't go to war, and jeopardize India's economy.

The truth is that this is nothing more than bravado from the media; I highly doubt that even the military hawks in India are actually serious about a cross border raid.

There are already signs that this was a domestic attack, not one from across the border, most likely motivated by the mass protests in IoK.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-37399969

Dangerous impasse - Justin Rowlatt, South Asia correspondent
With the Indian Home Ministry talking about a "cross-border terror attack", there is no doubt the raid will make the already fraught relations between India and Pakistan even frostier.

But the truth is this latest upsurge in violence has a distinctly home-grown flavour.

The huge wave of protests against Indian rule that were prompted by the killing of a popular young militant on 8 July have been overwhelmingly by people from Indian-controlled areas of Kashmir.

The attack is likely to mean normal life in the province will continue to be paralysed by the curfew imposed by the security forces for some time to come.

The Indian government says it wants to discuss how to end the violence with local leaders, but so far its overtures have been rejected by separatists who insist that the issue of Kashmiri independence must be on the table.

 

[A.M.]

How nice it must be for Indians to be able to put all major attacks from last 17 years on one single poster.

Pakistan will have to print 100 posters to do the same courtesy of our friends from across the border.

 

[Mrc]

Modi isn't stupid, he won't go to war, and jeopardize India's economy.

The truth is that this is nothing more than bravado from the media; I highly doubt that even the military hawks in India are actually serious about a cross border raid.

There are already signs that this was a domestic attack, not one from across the border, most likely motivated by the mass protests in IoK.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-37399969

Dangerous impasse - Justin Rowlatt, South Asia correspondent
With the Indian Home Ministry talking about a "cross-border terror attack", there is no doubt the raid will make the already fraught relations between India and Pakistan even frostier.

But the truth is this latest upsurge in violence has a distinctly home-grown flavour.

The huge wave of protests against Indian rule that were prompted by the killing of a popular young militant on 8 July have been overwhelmingly by people from Indian-controlled areas of Kashmir.

The attack is likely to mean normal life in the province will continue to be paralysed by the curfew imposed by the security forces for some time to come.

The Indian government says it wants to discuss how to end the violence with local leaders, but so far its overtures have been rejected by separatists who insist that the issue of Kashmiri independence must be on the table.

Even keeping this rheotric sustained might be enough to ruin their economy in short term...
We can always help by firing few shots across loc at height of tensions

 

[That Guy]

Even keeping this rheotric sustained might be enough to ruin their economy in short term...
We can always help by firing few shots across loc at height of tensions

Stupid thing to do, because it would also affect Pakistan's economy. Investors would pull out their money from both nations, but India would be better off due to a larger and better managed economy.

 

[New World]

Who the fcking hell will take on at that time when whole world is standing against india.

this attack is Orchestrated by the india to ease the international pressure. and divert the kashmir issue.

 

[Mrc]

Stupid thing to do, because it would also affect Pakistan's economy. Investors would pull out their money from both nations, but India would be better off due to a larger and better managed economy.

Are we growing at 7.9%?

 

[That Guy]

Are we growing at 7.9%?

No, and that's exactly the problem. Pakistan's barely growing at 5%, and a fear of war would reduce that to almost nothing, which could collapse Pakistan's economy. India's economy would drop as well, but it already has such a large reserve of forex, that it could slow down a decline long enough to recover.

 

[Mrc]

No, and that's exactly the problem. Pakistan's barely growing at 5%, and a fear of war would reduce that to almost nothing, which could collapse Pakistan's economy. India's economy would drop as well, but it already has such a large reserve of forex, that it could slow down a decline long enough to recover.

Ok ... i agree... cross loc and we will see what happens

 

[Areesh]

Are we growing at 7.9%?

Are we war mongers like India?

No. So lets keep it that way.

 

[JonAsad]

Yeah that will solve the kashmir issue -

 

[That Guy]

Ok ... i agree... cross loc and we will see what happens

Modi isn't stupid enough to potentially start a war. He's proven that he'll attack using militants and terrorists, so as he can avoid direct war, and deny any links to any violence in Pakistan.

Remember, as much as we like to hate him, Modi is a damn good businessman, far better than Nawaz Sharif. Modi knows the consequences of what could happen, if he does anything emotional and drastic.

 

[JanjaWeed]

NEW DELHI: The Army is going to turn the heat on Pakistan+ along the 778-km Line of Control (LoC) with concentrated artillery barrages, sniping and other operations, even as a section of the Indian security establishment wants the government to also consider "limited but punitive cross-border strikes" to send an unequivocal message to Pakistan.

But while "enhanced military pressure" along the LoC is a tactical move to impose some costs on the Pakistan Army for continuing to aid and abet terrorism in Jammu & Kashmir, the government will have to take a considered decision on conventional cross-border strikes on terror-training camps because of possible escalation into a full-fledged conflict.

Army battalions along the LoC as well as forward IAF airbases on the western front have in any case been put on "full alert" to take care of any contingency, government sources said.

Though "surgical strikes", covert military operations or "hot pursuits" inside Pakistani territory may not be on the cards as yet, the Army can certainly "bleed" Pakistani troops without crossing the LoC.

Targeted artillery and heavy-mortar fire on Pakistan army posts and bunkers and intensive sniping to interfere with movement of their patrols are among the several tactical options used in the past. "Yes, there will be retaliation from the other side but it can be dealt with," said a source

As for cross-border strikes, some security establishment officials say a political decision has to be taken to send a clear message to Pakistan that "enough is enough". A senior official said, "How long will we keep on absorbing terror strikes, from 26/11 to Pathankot, without effectively retaliating? Our defensive approach only serves to embolden the Pakistan army-ISI combine further."

For longer range strikes, the 90-km range Smerch rockets or the 290-km BrahMos supersonic cruise missiles can come into play. An escalatory step would be "surgical air strikes" by fighters like Mirage-2000s, Jaguars and Sukhoi-30MKIs armed with laser-guided 'smart' bombs or cluster bombs. But this will have to be carefully calibrated because Pakistan's air defence system is totally geared towards India, with the possibility of IAF taking some losses.

But others sound a word of caution. "Pakistan is no Myanmar (where Indian Para-SF troops conducted a trans-border raid to take out militants in June 2015). The government has to take into account that any strike inside Pakistan can escalate into an all-out war. Pakistan, of course, often threatens first-use of tactical nuclear weapons if it is attacked by India," said an official.

Officials say there are a variety of military options with "different thresholds" that can be considered by the government short of a full-scale war or crossing Pakistan's nuclear red lines. The first could be "calculated trans-border operations" by infantry units or even the Special Forces, trained for such "irregular warfare", against military or terrorist targets across the LoC.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...cross-border-strikes/articleshow/54397656.cms

wow..I'm lost for words. TOI managed to get such a sensitive info so easily & posted everywhere already to give heads-up to Pak?

 

[Windjammer]

NEW DELHI: The Army is going to turn the heat on Pakistan+ along the 778-km Line of Control (LoC) with concentrated artillery barrages, sniping and other operations, even as a section of the Indian security establishment wants the government to also consider "limited but punitive cross-border strikes" to send an unequivocal message to Pakistan.

But while "enhanced military pressure" along the LoC is a tactical move to impose some costs on the Pakistan Army for continuing to aid and abet terrorism in Jammu & Kashmir, the government will have to take a considered decision on conventional cross-border strikes on terror-training camps because of possible escalation into a full-fledged conflict.

Army battalions along the LoC as well as forward IAF airbases on the western front have in any case been put on "full alert" to take care of any contingency, government sources said.

Though "surgical strikes", covert military operations or "hot pursuits" inside Pakistani territory may not be on the cards as yet, the Army can certainly "bleed" Pakistani troops without crossing the LoC.

Targeted artillery and heavy-mortar fire on Pakistan army posts and bunkers and intensive sniping to interfere with movement of their patrols are among the several tactical options used in the past. "Yes, there will be retaliation from the other side but it can be dealt with," said a source

As for cross-border strikes, some security establishment officials say a political decision has to be taken to send a clear message to Pakistan that "enough is enough". A senior official said, "How long will we keep on absorbing terror strikes, from 26/11 to Pathankot, without effectively retaliating? Our defensive approach only serves to embolden the Pakistan army-ISI combine further."

For longer range strikes, the 90-km range Smerch rockets or the 290-km BrahMos supersonic cruise missiles can come into play. An escalatory step would be "surgical air strikes" by fighters like Mirage-2000s, Jaguars and Sukhoi-30MKIs armed with laser-guided 'smart' bombs or cluster bombs. But this will have to be carefully calibrated because Pakistan's air defence system is totally geared towards India, with the possibility of IAF taking some losses.

But others sound a word of caution. "Pakistan is no Myanmar (where Indian Para-SF troops conducted a trans-border raid to take out militants in June 2015). The government has to take into account that any strike inside Pakistan can escalate into an all-out war. Pakistan, of course, often threatens first-use of tactical nuclear weapons if it is attacked by India," said an official.

Officials say there are a variety of military options with "different thresholds" that can be considered by the government short of a full-scale war or crossing Pakistan's nuclear red lines. The first could be "calculated trans-border operations" by infantry units or even the Special Forces, trained for such "irregular warfare", against military or terrorist targets across the LoC.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...cross-border-strikes/articleshow/54397656.cms

Dear Indians, there's a saying in our part of the world, ''Ghar mein nai atta, aur beta mangey Paratha''....sadly for you, Sunny Deol is too old to do another Gupta Rambo....or as they say boards don't hit back but bullets kill.
Off screen this is the reality.
Indian army 'backed out' of Pakistan attack
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/KA21Df02.html