Upgraded Arjun Mark-II tanks undergoing trial at Pokhran

[gslv mk3]

Say people from country who changed "the best fighter ever" decision some 5 times in last few years. Who still believe in the make in India concept and consider LCA as indigenous product. Unlike Indians, Pakistanies do not ha

And who is talking here ? A TTA who is incapable of thinking ?

If LCA is not an indigenous product,what else is it ?

And BTW make in India is already happening.And I am not interested in comparing our industry with yours.

You are starting on the wrong foot but innocently ignoring the Pakistani input in the JF-17 design that have been much debated and discussed to death. If you are not aware of such basic things it makes one doubt everything else that you are saying. So perhaps we should start again?

May be you should start 'researching' about your indigenous aircraft industry-show me one single aircraft design developed in Pakistan

How about launching toilet mission to your population... Sense of priorities don't really exist .. does it!

What about launching a mass feeding mission rather than spending on 3% of your GDP on defence-Since you have the highest percentage of unfed population in South Asia

Sense of priorities don't really exist .. does it?

 

[GURU DUTT]

You are starting on the wrong foot but innocently ignoring the Pakistani input in the JF-17 design that have been much debated and discussed to death. If you are not aware of such basic things it makes one doubt everything else that you are saying. So perhaps we should start again?

salaam saeen ji is paleed short dark evil yaindoo baniye ka salaam kubool farmae

thing is no nation barring russia , france ,china & USA have the capacity to make an entire fighter jet on there own its not that era of piston engined or early 60s to late 70s things are way way more streched owt now in almost all the aspects of fighter jet designe & manufacturing

now the thread is about Arjun MK2 and its coming owt as expected onli point of concern is that its around 5tonne hevier than planned which i guess will be taken care of in the next gen which is onlines of the new unmanned turret design but rumor here is growing very strong that at least 240 more will be orderred in next couple of months apart from the current order and the new version of TANK-EX is under R&D (improoved T72 Chasis with new suspension and engine & improved and lighter version of arjun MK2 turret)

so arjun is not a waste as many muhib e watan pakistanies think ,,,,,, cheers mate

 

[Chika_Pika]

Yes war on terror on our soil and you also fight it against Maoists in your country so wake up

No that was an maosist insurgency

I bet you felt like it "penetrated" your shell..

What you people are discussing here, avoid offtopic

 

[Arsalan]

And who is talking here ? A TTA who is incapable of thinking ?

If LCA is not an indigenous product,what else is it ?

And BTW make in India is already happening.And I am not interested in comparing our industry with yours.



May be you should start 'researching' about your indigenous aircraft industry-show me one single aircraft design developed in Pakistan



What about launching a mass feeding mission rather than spending on 3% of your GDP on defence-Since you have the highest percentage of unfed population in South Asia

Sense of priorities don't really exist .. does it?

Dear, i guess you just see the flag of the poster, jump to a conclusion and try to barge in all guns blazing. A little more attention to the context and you posts may suddenly start appearing reasonable.

THE POST YOU ARE PROUDLY REFERRING TO AND QUOTING was a reply to hate speech claiming that Pakistanis UNLIKE Indians do not have the ability to logically analyze the statements given by the military.
My Reply just indicated a few of those numerous occasions where you people started jumping all around based on a statement by you top brass only to keep on jumping for a totally different thing as the military suddenly backed out of there initial claims or changed there plans for some reason.
Perhaps if you were little bit interested in learning things and correction your mitstakes these things would not have been such useless to you,, anyway!!

As for your second point, i for one have always been positive that JF-17 is not an indigenous product. Even the PAC do not claims it to be so. The inputs of PAC and PAF in the project are well documented, debated and discussed and not hard to find for those who are actually interested in knowing about them. If someone just want to troll and rant about it, i do not think anyone can help in.

As for LCA being an indigenous product, AGAIN, i don't want to go there mate, it will hurt feelings and further derail the thread. Feel free to tag me in the relevant thread and i will be happy to let you know what is NOT indigenous about LCA. Still, the case is same that it have already been debated and discussed for those who were interested in learning from it, others, no one can really help them.

 

[GURU DUTT]

Dear, i guess you just see the flag of the poster, jump to a conclusion and try to barge in all guns blazing. A little more attention to the context and you posts may suddenly start appearing reasonable.

THE POST YOU ARE PROUDLY REFERRING TO AND QUOTING was a reply to hate speech claiming that Pakistanis UNLIKE Indians do not have the ability to logically analyze the statements given by the military.
My Reply just indicated a few of those numerous occasions where you people started jumping all around based on a statement by you top brass only to keep on jumping for a totally different thing as the military suddenly backed out of there initial claims or changed there plans for some reason.
Perhaps if you were little bit interested in learning things and correction your mitstakes these things would not have been such useless to you,, anyway!!

As for your second point, i for one have always been positive that JF-17 is not an indigenous product. Even the PAC do not claims it to be so. The inputs of PAC and PAF in the project are well documented, debated and discussed and not hard to find for those who are actually interested in knowing about them. If someone just want to troll and rant about it, i do not think anyone can help in.

As for LCA being an indigenous product, AGAIN, i don't want to go there mate, it will hurt feelings and further derail the thread. Feel free to tag me in the relevant thread and i will be happy to let you know what is NOT indigenous about LCA. Still, the case is same that it have already been debated and discussed for those who were interested in learning from it, others, no one can really help them.

sirji ek adna sa masoomanaa sawal poochnne ki ghustaki ker raha hoon .... is this thread about Arjun MK2 trails or LCA

 

[Arsalan]

sirji ek adna sa masoomanaa sawal poochnne ki ghustaki ker raha hoon .... is this thread about Arjun MK2 trails or LCA

Have you read the post dear?
the answer is right there in the very post that you quoted.

As for LCA being an indigenous product, AGAIN, i don't want to go there mate, it will hurt feelings and further derail the thread. Feel free to tag me in the relevant thread and i will be happy to let you know what is NOT indigenous about LCA.

You wont need to asked these questions only if you do not jump gun and read the post you are quoting sir.

 

[Kinetic]

JF17 : China :: Tejas : India

BOTH :

- Home Made Design ( If you know what it means to Design a Fighter Jet, Try This.. Simply try to simulate a Fuel Cell in MatLab .. You know.. the HUGE HUGE Efforts Inested. )
- Have Home Designed FBW ( The Most Most Most Critical Technology if you know what IT IS )
- Home Made Avionics
- Home MAde Radar ( Uttam AESA is Almost Ready for Tejas )
- Home Made Airframe ( With LCA having Far far more composites than any comparable Fighter )
- Home Made Weapons ( SD10 , Astra // LGBs Etc. )


BOTH :

- Dont have Their Own Engine ( Both India and China are Developing their own Engines - As of Now )

Now expect Pakistanis to come with AK which is chinese design, FC-1 chinese dsign. All their weapons, even UAV are sold by China all over the world and they talk about R&D. There is not a single weapon that does not have a copy in China or NK!

JF-17 IS ENTIRELY FINANCED BY CHINA. There was a article in Dawn. Initially it was loan but later pardoned just like Gwadar.

China converts $230m loan for Gwadar airport into grant | PAKISTAN - geo.tv

@DESERT FIGHTER @Windjammer @MaarKhoor

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Now expect Pakistanis to come with AK which is chinese design,

Didn't I quote n dare you to post 1/single Chinese subsystem used in AK??? Offer still stands... Just name 1 Chinese system used in AK ! Or stfu.

Although the failed Arjun is based on leopard design.

FC-1 chinese dsign.

It's amazing how many times you & your kind has been owned over such stupid statements.

All their weapons, even UAV are sold by China all over the world and they talk about R&D. There is not a single weapon that does not have a copy in China or NK

Good for China n NK..

JF-17 IS ENTIRELY FINANCED BY CHINA. There was a article in Dawn. Initially it was loan but later pardoned just like Gwadar.

China converts $230m loan for Gwadar airport into grant | PAKISTAN - geo.tv

@DESERT FIGHTER @Windjammer @MaarKhoor

If I prove you wrong.. Would you stfu permanently?

 

[Kinetic]

Didn't I quote n dare you to post 1/single Chinese subsystem used in AK??? Offer still stands... Just name 1 Chinese system used in AK ! Or stfu.

Although the failed Arjun is based on leopard design.

It's amazing how many times you & your kind has been owned over such stupid statements.

Good for China n NK..



If I prove you wrong.. Would you stfu permanently?

You probe that There is one system in FC-1, MBT-2000 that is designed and developed in Pakistan. I have already provided links with pics that MBT-2000 exists in other countries as well, exported by china.

 

[Maarkhoor]

You probe that There is one system in FC-1, MBT-2000 that is designed and developed in Pakistan. I have already provided links with pics that MBT-2000 exists in other countries as well, exported by china.

More chilizzz for u these projects are successful not like Tejas, Arjun or Pinaka,

 

[Kinetic]

More chilizzz for u these projects are successful not like Tejas, Arjun or Pinaka,

Funded, design, developed by China. lol What you didn't do for them to get those weapons...

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

You probe that There is one system in FC-1, MBT-2000 that is designed and developed in Pakistan. I have already provided links with pics that MBT-2000 exists in other countries as well, exported by china.

As I said .. Walk the talk or stfu ?

As for MBT-2000 .. It's an export version of AK.. With Chinese subsystems (entirely).. Whose 50% profit goes to HIT (HIT & Norinco market both AK & MBT-2000 tanks)..

AK is based on type series .. It's design,gun,armour,etc is Pakistani -- with European systems.

As for JF-17.. Unlike you we don't claim its indigenous rather a JV.

Suck it up.

Funded, design, developed by China. lol What you didn't do for them to get those weapons...

58% of JF was funded by PAC.

AK is a Pak project.


Prove us wrong or stfu .. This is the 4th time I'm telling you that.

 

[Dazzler]

Again same amateur replies with plenty of chest thumping but little to no substance. I guess reality check is is long overshadowed by Bollywood fantasies in the neighboring country.

Arjun was, is and will be a disaster in the making and the Indian army know this. The recent "indirect" interest in T-14 is yet another testament to the fact.

Its a dead meat in desert mates, calling it Ferrari or McLaren or Bugatti veron or SSC Ultimate will not change this fact.

 

[Jat Boy]

Dazzler

I call a upgraded AL ZARRER a disaster. EVEN Bangladesh scrapped these 20 years ago. YET YOU GUYS KEEP 600

 

[sharma1111]

India needs a 1400 HP engine, light weight Composite cheap super alloy for armors, turret and barrel.
Arjun will always be a failed project until we can bring down weight to 50 Tons and increase the indigenous components to 70+%