Unity.

[Indus Pakistan]

Are you talking about Ahmedis here?

Ahmedis are terribly treated. I stand by Ahmedis any time. However their numbers and their treatment aggregated into quanta is far, far, far less than Untouchables of India who number in the population of entire US of A or all of Europe. That is injustice at monumental proportions.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

Laws of evolution of society presumably don't apply in Pakistan. In time as society matures it will evolve and the constitution will reflect that change. Have a look at the change in US in regars to Black people. Change is inevitable. You of course think Pakistan is some frozen matrix. In fact Pakistan is going through more change then India with higher urbanization releasing massive force into cityscape by bringing vastly differant ethnic groups/social groups in close proximity creating a vortex of change.

That is very good to know
But the Basic premise of your thread is still unknown

You want Unity in your country but what have we "Gangoos " Done to Break your Unity

Why is your Unity threatened by " Gangoos " ( I love this word )

Is your country so fragile

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

Anything that has ORIGINATED on or after 14 August 1947 is Pakistani

Before that this whole SUB continent was called India / Hindustan and
And Before Islam Arrived in South Asia ; This Sub Continent was called BHARAT

then Pakistan is India by your stupid logic
and Pakistani/neplai/Bangldeshi are also Indians because they have origin prior to 1947 lol
include even afghnaistan as well because you claim that it was also part of mahabhart at sometime in past

 

[Jugger]

Total Nonsense. Dalits are still fighting against injustice and discrimination as so called high caste people are not ready to give them equal social status in your society because of cultural/religious beliefs as caste system is deep rooted in Indian society . To make one so called dalit as PM don't mean that rest of Muslims or dalit community are not facing any sort of discrimination and inequality on daily basis. Muslims and dalits have worse literacy rate and poorest economic condition in India as compare to others community. Its like saying that you have no poverty in India because Indian like mukesh ambani own 22.7 billion US dollars lol

Btw We have been told you guys dozen times that Abdul kalam was not practising Muslim and he was very much like atheist or agnostics or someone who read all religion and made his own mixture of beliefs that monotheism and polytheism are boht true when they are boht contradictory others example are shak rukh khan, salman khan and amir khan who have their own version of beliefs to please boht Hindus and Muslims

Total nonsense is your understanding of my post.
Give me a single line in Indian construction which is unjust and non secular? You can't.
BTW I was not pointing toward Abdul kalam but towards K R Narayanan who was India's first dalit president.

And who are you to judge my presidents islamiyat? This is the reason why Pakistan just cannot think rationally beyond religion, everything stops there.
You guys are busy deciding who is a proper Muslim or not and wondering why your country is not so united even after 70 years of independence? Laughable.

You prove all my points, so thanks.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

Well Indian were divided where local ruler/raja maharaja were oppressing their own people that's why India got conquered easily by invaders

This thread is about the Present day and times

Anyway we are Forward looking people

We have a LOT to look forward to as a nation ; Miles to go to achieve our destiny

 

[Pakistani E]

@Kaptaan

My old posts are all similar to your first post, I always tell Pakistanis before trying to hate each other to look around you. We don't have many friends in this world, we have several different countries/groups trying to undermine us. Those who hate us are united in their hatred, why are we not united to face such threats?

We have people who are willing to fight and die for distant lands, they kill and be killed for foreign ideologies, who use us as cannon fodder. But most Pakistanis do not understand this, I don't think the vast majority of them ever will.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Before that this whole SUB continent was called India / Hindustan and

Calling myself Mohammed Ali does not make me boxer Ali. You came into existence in 1947 on the same day as Pakistan. You did not exist before 1947. It was BRITISH India. Just because you chose the same name does not give you any preferantial rights to heritage of pre-1947.

In your faggot logic Romania has claim to Roman Empire, West Indian are Indians, State of Indiana is Indian. All reduced to just the name.

 

[aakash_2410]

Someone is clearly very much frustrated with India's ever growing influence.

Whether haters like it or not, India is going places. Watch this space! I've been on this forum for almost 7 years and I'd absolutely love to come back on this forum a couple of decades down the road.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

then Pakistan is India by your stupid logic
and Pakistani/neplai/Bangldeshi are also Indians because they have origin prior to 1947 lol
include even in afghnaistan as well because you claim that it was also part of mahabhart at sometime in past

History did not begin on 15 August 1947

Neither did it Begin when Bin Qasim reached Sindh

This is a 5000 year old Land and people
And it has had a Continuos civilisation spanning all these 5000 Years

You cannot wish it away

 

[Jugger]

Laws of evolution of society presumably don't apply in Pakistan. In time as society matures it will evolve and the constitution will reflect that change. Have a look at the change in US in regars to Black people. Change is inevitable. You of course think Pakistan is some frozen matrix. In fact Pakistan is going through more change then India with higher urbanization releasing massive force into cityscape by bringing vastly differant ethnic groups/social groups in close proximity creating a vortex of change.

Good luck evolving then! I wish the people of Pakistan all the best.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

Calling myself Mohammed Ali does not make me boxer Ali. You came into existence in 1947 on the same day as Pakistan. You did not exist before 1947. It was BRITISH India. Just because you chose the same name does not give you any preferantial rights to heritage of pre-1947.

In your faggot logic Romania has claim to Roman Empire, West Indian are Indians, State of Indiana is Indian. All reduced to just the name.

I know where all this anger is coming from

I just dont have any cure for it

Reality is Bitter ; but you have to accept it

 

[Proudpakistaniguy]

Total nonsense is your understanding of my post.
Give me a single line in Indian construction which is unjust and non secular? You can't.
BTW I was not pointing toward Abdul kalam but towards K R Narayanan who was India's first dalit president.

And who are you to judge my presidents islamiyat? This is the reason why Pakistan just cannot think rationally beyond religion, everything stops there.
You guys are busy deciding who is a proper Muslim or not and wondering why your country is not so united even after 70 years of independence? Laughable.

You prove all my points, so thanks.

Again non sense. You need to follow certain principles in order to be a Muslim and its not me but Islam who set those principles and guideline so every Muslim will be judged according to it and if Islam reject idol worshipping and some Indian Muslim find no harm in it and worship morti and place it in their homes then surely we will judge them based on teaching of Islam and as said before Hinduvata praise Abdul kalam because he was not any different than others Hindus in beliefs lol

 

[LURKER]

Ahmedis are terribly treated. I stand by Ahmedis any time. However their numbers and their treatment aggregated into quanta is far, far, far less than Untouchables of India who number in the population of entire US of A or all of Europe. That is injustice at monumental proportions.

I'm afraid you are so wrong here. Ahmedis literally have to hide their faith for fear of being persecuted. They can't call their place of worship as mosque. While the Indian constitution gives special privilege and perks to untouchables, in case of Pakistan it's the opposite whose constitution restricts the freedom of religion of Ahmedis. The less we talk about treatment of minorities in Pakistan the better.

 

[aakash_2410]

In your faggot logic Romania has claim to Roman Empire, West Indian are Indians, State of Indiana is Indian. All reduced to just the name.

Do you have a problem with gays, Mr? Also, Gangaland or Indie or dot head is not an insult, whereas the abbreviation of your nationality is considered such derogatory and filthy term. It's considered n word equivalent for brown people especially, in English speaking word. You know the word I'm referring to.

Just goes to show how the world sees us differently indeed

 

[ranjeet]

JIT report is out, we might see a little demonstration of "Unity" in coming days.