UK's Cameron will move EU referendum forward if possible

[Echo_419]

Poles,Romanians and Bulgarians are destroying the UK.They must leave the EU to save themselves while there's still time.

The Caliphate seems the next logical union for Al Britannia.

The UK should make up it's mind to stay or not to stay in the union @Abingboy your views

 

[Hindustani78]

Norway? Seriously? France is too weak in the EU to do anything.

Norway is having good economy and France is expanding its defense industry.

 

[Steve781]

Norway is having good economy and France is expanding its defense industry.

Norway isn't even in the EU. They were scared of having their oil grabbed.

 

[flamer84]

Do you agree that newspapers like these do the same thing to Muslims? And I don’t think they are scared to criticize us. You just need to look at any of the well known news websites to see how "terrified" they are by Muslims.

Yes I do.And these are the same papers who will cry out "racists" if some state actors would try to come down hard on criminal element,be they muslim radical nutjobs or criminals.Every year i hear that Romanians are racists bec ause our prisons are filled with gypsies.Ok,i say that in the name of representative quotas we should put innocents in jails while letting criminals get away as to have a balance of ethnic quotas.The soft kinded Westerners should love this.

I hear from Romanians they are actually a proverbial pain. They have carried over much of the same way of living to the UK which has led to racial tensions, increased opposition to the EU and so forth.
The problem is when you give the right of "freedom of movement", you can't really control who comes and goes. This has sadly led to a surge of criminals, who have left mainly Eastern European states and sullied the name of these nations.



That was plain silly. I laughed at that as well. The harsh reality is such messages resonate well now.

I still fail to see how didn't they see this one coming,i mean it was a given that with free movement there will be criminals and their activities moving to the West/UK.You make much more money stealing,running prostitution rings,fraud,etc in the UK than in Romania.Plus,from what i've heard our criminals found Westerners to be truly gullible people ripe for plucking and the Western prison system as a forced holliday in case you get caught,very easy to handle and quite comfortable.

 

[waz]

I still fail to see how didn't they see this one coming,i mean it was a given that with free movement there will be criminals and their activities moving to the West/UK.You make much more money stealing,running prostitution rings,fraud,etc in the UK than in Romania.Plus,from what i've heard our criminals found Westerners to be truly gullible people ripe for plucking and the Western prison system as a forced holliday in case you get caught,very easy to handle and quite comfortable.

Gullible is an understatement my friend. The system and country itself is plush pastures for those with ill intent.

 

[ozzy22]

Yes I do.And these are the same papers who will cry out "racists" if some state actors would try to come down hard on criminal element,be they muslim radical nutjobs or criminals.Every year i hear that Romanians are racists bec ause our prisons are filled with gypsies.Ok,i say that in the name of representative quotas we should put innocents in jails while letting criminals get away as to have a balance of ethnic quotas.The soft kinded Westerners should love this.




I still fail to see how didn't they see this one coming,i mean it was a given that with free movement there will be criminals and their activities moving to the West/UK.You make much more money stealing,running prostitution rings,fraud,etc in the UK than in Romania.Plus,from what i've heard our criminals found Westerners to be truly gullible people ripe for plucking and the Western prison system as a forced holliday in case you get caught,very easy to handle and quite comfortable.

I don’t think they give two ****s about being PC to any racial group. The reason Muslims are highlighted is because of 9-11 and Eastern Europeans for being recent immigrants. Any group of people can be made to look bad if the media has an agenda for that to be the case. My point is you defended Eastern Europeans because you are one and implied the Muslims get it easy. Which is just a crazy thing to say. I’m saying your point could be just as well be used for Muslims. It’s best not to make a judgment of any group of people from such newspapers. Be it Muslims or Eastern Europeans etc

 

[Steve781]

I don’t think they give two ****s about being PC to any racial group. The reason Muslims are highlighted is because of 9-11 and Eastern Europeans for being recent immigrants. Any group of people can be made to look bad if the media has an agenda for that to be the case. My point is you defended Eastern Europeans because you are one and implied the Muslims get it easy. Which is just a crazy thing to say. I’m saying your point could be just as well be used for Muslims. It’s best not to make a judgment of any group of people from such newspapers. Be it Muslims or Eastern Europeans etc

People who are against immigration are not necessarily against immigrants themselves, they just think people born in this country should be put first. I'm sure most people in Pakistan, Romania or elsewhere think the same about their own countries.

 

[ozzy22]

People who are against immigration are not necessarily against immigrants themselves, they just think people born in this country should be put first. I'm sure most people in Pakistan, Romania or elsewhere think the same about their own countries.

That’s fine and understandable but my point had more to do with flamer84 posts on here implying that Eastern Europeans are harshly targeted and Muslims get special treatment for whatever reason. Which is so far from reality and unfair.

 

[flamer84]

People who are against immigration are not necessarily against immigrants themselves, they just think people born in this country should be put first. I'm sure most people in Pakistan, Romania or elsewhere think the same about their own countries.

I totally agree with that.It's your God given right to want your country for your people but you could just say that instead of making my country seem a banana republic with silly articles from a biased press.

That’s fine and understandable but my point had more to do with flamer84 posts on here implying that Eastern Europeans are harshly targeted and Muslims get special treatment for whatever reason. Which is so far from reality and unfair.

But did they explicitly say in the British press that ALL muslims are bad ? 'Cause apparently ALL Romanians live in huts,defecate outdoors and scratch a living from begging and credit card fraud.

 

[Steve781]

I totally agree with that.It's your God given right to want your country for your people but you could just say that instead of making my country seem a banana republic with silly articles from a biased press.

You're right. I always attack the politicians rather than the immigrants or their countries of origin.

 

[flamer84]

You're right. I always attack the politicians rather than the immigrants or their countries of origin.

You can attack the immigrants to.I would be pretty pissed to if i saw gypsies from Eastern Europe on my front lawn.Ofcourse,you're right ,the politicos are the first to blame on this.

 

[ozzy22]

I totally agree with that.It's your God given right to want your country for your people but you could just say that instead of making my country seem a banana republic with silly articles from a biased press.




But did they explicitly say in the British press that ALL muslims are bad ? 'Cause apparently ALL Romanians live in huts,defecate outdoors and live from begging and credit card fraud.

I don’t think that has been said about Muslims or Romanians there a bit smarter than that, but they do want the readers to think Muslims are all bad and all Romanians live in slums and beg.

Tell me when you read these articles that say negative stuff about Muslims from the same website that say negative stuff about Romanians. Do you tend to agree with it or not? It seems like your outrage is because it's your own people (understandable) but totally missing the broader picture.

 

[flamer84]

I don’t think that has been said about Muslims or Romanians there a bit smarter than that, but they do want the readers to think Muslims are all bad and all Romanians live in slums and beg.

Tell me when you read these articles that say negative stuff about Muslims from the same website that say negative stuff about Romanians. Do you tend to agree with it or not? It seems like your outrage is because it's your own people (understandable) but totally missing the broader picture.

Well,no,because i am right in what i've told you.In case of muslims,they mention them as radicals while most of them in my case they're...Romanians.Not Romanian criminals,not Romanian gypsies .And,yes,there really was a title with capital letters..."this is how they live in Romania" which presented a gypsie camp.

 

[Gufi]

The issue at hand is whether the UK feels brave enough to actually exit the EU because then they will be isolated

 

[Steve781]

The issue at hand is whether the UK feels brave enough to actually exit the EU because then they will be isolated

We're isolated anyway.