Ukraine war will make China more cautious on Taiwan, advisers say

[WotTen]

Now let us assume that the US and allies, Asian and EU, decides to help Taiwan ala Ukraine, meaning not troops but materiel DURING the war. So Taiwan inflict serious losses on the PLAN making the blockade weaker, then we resupply Taiwan defenses.

NATO is supplying real time intelligence, weapons, training, and men (maybe PMC, not official military) to Ukraine, but both Russia and NATO are playing this surreal game of pretending NATO isn't helping Ukraine because they want to avoid direct conflict.

This surreal denial won't be possible in Taiwan. To break through a PLAN blockade, US would have to directly engage with PLAN.

Will US officially declare war on China?

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

You failed to tell the part of story: a man arrives and gives gifts to children. Man, you sound like a psychopath. Go seek a doc.

Are you a small kid? You sure sound and behave like one.

 

[beijingwalker]

The US always overestimates its adversaries. You should understand that by this point. I'd take those exercises with a huge grain of salt. The US military is extremely capable. Underestimate at your own risk.

LOl, yes, like what they did in Korea, Vietnam and Afghanistan....

 

[Menthol]

NEXT!

After Russia is down.

It will be China turn.

USA will declare Taiwan independent soon after.

 

[Viet]

Are you a small kid? You sure sound and behave like one.

62,500 chinese soldiers were killed in 2 weeks, worse than 60,000 US soldiers killed in the long war with Vietnam. Every time Vietnam and China go to war hundred thousands if not a million on both sides perish. I don’t know why you are so proud of deaths and destruction.

https://english.pravda.ru/world/107193-vietnam_china/

Vietnam defeated China in a war lasting one month

Forget Afghanistan, Vietnam is the real graveyard of empires. Wars with China, France, Japan, and the United States, all came up short.

www.wearethemighty.com

 

[northeast]

The US always overestimates its adversaries. You should understand that by this point. I'd take those exercises with a huge grain of salt. The US military is extremely capable. Underestimate at your own risk.

You are talking non sense. You mean you overestimate vietnam,north korea and afghanistan? You are either totally brainwashed by your mass media into a blind f**l or you are a f**l from the beginning.

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

LOl, yes, like what they did in Korea, Vietnam and Afghanistan....

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62,500 chinese soldiers were killed in 2 weeks, worse than 60,000 US soldiers killed in the long war with Vietnam. Every time Vietnam and China go to war hundred thousands if not a million on both sides perish. I don’t know why you are so proud of deaths and destruction.

https://english.pravda.ru/world/107193-vietnam_china/

Vietnam defeated China in a war lasting one month

Forget Afghanistan, Vietnam is the real graveyard of empires. Wars with China, France, Japan, and the United States, all came up short.

www.wearethemighty.com

Report based on Voice of Vietcong broadcasting source or you were there carrying the carcass of dead cat identified by your comrade still in a daze as a dead Chinese soldier.

So today finally out of guilt, you admitted only 60,000 US GI died and not the one million as reported by the same source earlier on in NAM.
Wonder where was the wreckage of the B-52 shot down by VC with their AK-47? Transported to Bermuda Triangle.



Grow up. Kid.

 

[Apollon]

The only uncertainty about China retaking its province lost to colonialism. was direct american intervention.

Taiwan and western propaganda were making all sorts of noise about american intervention balabalbalba..

The ukraine war has showed what a hollow power the US/west is. Their only real weapon was the economic one, and they have pretty much exhausted it.

if anything, China now knows it can take taiwain with 0 direct western intervention.

Sanctions were always a certainty. the west showed their economic weapons in this war, which gives china alot of opportunity to specifically shield itself from western economic attacks.

if anything, China should become more emboldened.

Russia is pounded in Ukraine by just weapon deliveries with extreme losses and stuck

 

[northeast]

Russia is pounded in Ukraine by just weapon deliveries with extreme losses and stuck

China isn't russia,our industrial might is at least ten or twenty times more mightier than russia.

 

[Apollon]

China isn't russia,our industrial might is at least ten or twenty times more mightier than russia.

That is true. Thats also reason why Russia and China will never be an alliance. Russia simply cant match with China on any level.

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

China admitted that the heavy losses of 7000 fatalities and 15,000 injured were due to the fact they were on the offensive in a hilly ground that were mined by the Vietnamese defenders. That was why it took 3 weeks.

But nevertheless, China's military objectives were achieved and the enemy were annihilated or ran away. They were completed wiped off with many cities flattened. Disgraceful.

Those Vietnamese who managed to escape when being questioned replied. "What enemies? We only saw shells."
Next question: Where is your rifle? Where is your shoes?

 

[Vapnope]

Now let us assume that the US and allies, Asian and EU, decides to help Taiwan ala Ukraine, meaning not troops but materiel DURING the war.

Exactly how if China enforces a naval blockade. I am sure US would not risk sending cargo planes in a hostile airspace as well.

 

[Yousafzai_M]

I disagree. They learned, harshly. But their problem is that they are EMOTIONALLY INVESTED into both Russia and China, so when one fail, the capabilities of the other are in serious doubt. So when they are so emotionally invested, they have no choice but to talk up the remaining one -- China. And talking up is what we are seeing now. They have to talk of war as if it is a video game because that is all they know. They do not know what it is like to feel the recoil of a rifle or the g-force of an airplane. They have never been under life or death stress. Because they have so little real life experience, they have to treat the Taiwanese as things, not as human beings, in order to talk up China. The worse things get for Russia in Ukraine, the more talking up for China we will see.

I wonder if you would say the same about the millions of humans that suffered in Iraq and Afghanistan at the hands of US and its gang. Even today I was reading 90% of Afghans don't have enough to eat because the US wouldn't release the money which belongs to Afghans.

On the topic, I don't think Chinese will need a war with Taiwan, all they have to do is wait, maybe another 100 years, continue to grow their economy and miliatry, till it becomes too expensive for the West to engage them in a war and Taiwan will come home, like Hong Kong and Macau did.

As for 'emotionally invested', the Russia-Ukraine war is the first time in mine and that of a lot of PDF member's lifetime, that we have nothing to do with, physically, emotionally, financially.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

I wonder if you would say the same about the millions of humans that suffered in Iraq and Afghanistan at the hands of US and its gang. Even today I was reading 90% of Afghans don't have enough to eat because the US wouldn't release the money which belongs to Afghans.

On the topic, I don't think Chinese will need a war with Taiwan, all they have to do is wait, maybe another 100 years, continue to grow their economy and miliatry, till it becomes too expensive for the West to engage them in a war and Taiwan will come home, like Hong Kong and Macau did.

As for 'emotionally invested', the Russia-Ukraine war is the first time in mine and that of a lot of PDF member's lifetime, that we have nothing to do with, physically, emotionally, financially.

Lol seriously they think that we are emotionally invested in some European war?

You know why I don't post in that thread anymore? mostly, I don't care too much about the details. When there's a big movement, mainstream media will pick it up.

I care much more about my day to day and personal interests. Russia and Ukraine is a mild distraction that ultimately has little to do with me or China. Trying to shoehorn Taiwan into this is even funnier. Everything PLA does right, Taiwan can't do. Everything PLA supposedly gets wrong, Taiwan does too.

 

[Rafi]

You do know that the US have been arming Taiwan for decades, right?

And also acknowledge that Taiwan is part of China.