Ukraine appoints American trans woman as new military spokesperson

[Foinikas]

So what preclude them from perform in such a post?

I mean, what do you look at on a post like this? The ability to communicate, even fight if they have to, again, I can't see anything preclude crossdressers to do such word? Because they have a weird sense of their gender??

I mean, shouldn't the position be given to people who fit the bill? I still yet to understand how he/she/they should be denied because they have a different view on gender? I mean you don't need to look at her if you don't want to, but to say that this particular person should not held such post because it is public is another story...I mean do you tell transvestite on the street to go home and put on women cloth at home and don't do it in public?

As someone said, there are no law in Ukraine to criminalise transvestitism or any LGBIT offence, so what a person do is what they do and they have every right to do them, you can say you don't like them, or you don't want to hang out with them, that's okay because that's your choice, but I don't think anyone have any say on whether or not people should hire a transvestite except the person is hiring, you may not and I certainly will not, that's fine, but that does not mean everybody else have an issue with it...

If you see someone dressed as Batman,being appointed as Australia's military spokesperson,how serious will you take the command? How serious will you take that person? How much will you trust their decisions? What comes out of their mouth?

 

[jhungary]

If you see someone dressed as Batman,being appointed as Australia's military spokesperson,how serious will you take the command? How serious will you take that person? How much will you trust their decisions? What comes out of their mouth?

Well, so is this more acceptable to you then a man dressed as Batman? Girl dressing up exceptionally sexy and shaking their arse while sending off a Navy ship?

Again, it's not about you believe what the person said, because she did NOT make the decision, it's not like Ukraine is appointing her the supreme commander of the Armed Force, again, they could if they think she is up to the job. I mean just because I don't like Gay or Lesbian or Tran does not mean I doubt the decision that made from a whole other organisation just because she speak of those word.

As I said, if you have a problem listening to a transveristie, then don't listen to her, that is your right and nobody is forcing you to listen to her, that does not mean she should step down on her role, because that is not yours, or mine decision to make, that's the people who made the decision that hire her, and as far as I see, if she can speak normally, and can convey message from higher up to lower down, I think that's more than enough to do the job she was appointed to do. That's what spokesperson did. Or do you think Trans should automatically loses any employment opportunities because they cannot be taken seriously and that they should be stay home and not work forever because they cannot be taken seriously.

The issue here, and as I mentioned number of time about the decline of Republicanism in the US thread, conservative is a concept someone held, but that does not mean you need to force it on everyone else, and upholding someone's right not just those people who you like, you also need to defend the right for people you don't like, because they, whether you like it or not, have the same right as you, just because they are different than you and you don't like that difference, that doesn't mean their right does not exist. As far as I concern, that is what wrong with people nowadays, in the old days, we don't like something, we say something and it's okay for you to not like something, but we accept that this occur whether or not we like this or not. I mean, it's like watching TV, you don't like a TV programme, in the old days, we would just change channel or turn it off altogether and not watch it, now when people don't like a TV programme, they are forcing themselves to go thru the entire programme so they can bitch about how bad it was and how much they don't like it.....That is the problem today..

 

[BHAN85]

If you see someone dressed as Batman,being appointed as Australia's military spokesperson,how serious will you take the command? How serious will you take that person? How much will you trust their decisions? What comes out of their mouth?

That's the point, it's not any freedom like @jhungary said.

This is trans freedom.

And I think it's ok, but it's my personal opinion and I guess a lot of Ukrainian wouldnt understand it.

 

[Redbeanpaste]

The post itself is pointless as all communique either come from Zelenskyy office or Ukraine MOD.

Notice the posting is mostly propaganda, it's obvious they are doing this to spite the Russian

How is it propoganda? Either the military spokesman is trans or not.

Dude, what people want to do in their down time is their business. You want to dress like a gladiator and fight someone in supermarket or go into a comic-con and dress like a bunny, that's your business, so again, why would people have any problem with a man dressing up like a woman, or a woman dressing up at a man, they are called private time for a reason.

I don't really know what the fuzz this is about. I mean, army time? sure, you do what the army tells you to do, but private time? That's your business, I don't, and never care about what my soldier do in their downtime, that's their time, I only care when I tell them to do something, because that's my time.

I mean, is cross dressing a dieases that preclude someone from performing their duty? I mean if you are anti-social or bi-polar, yes, I would say we shouldn't give you access to big gun loaded with real bullet, but again, even if we define Crossdressing as a mental disease, how it preclude someone from performing and discharging their duty?

Don't get me wrong, I don't like crossdresser, and never understood why people want to do that but then that does not mean it's a wrong choice of lifestyle, or even ill, it's just someone choose something different. And that different alone does not make that person incapable to pick up a gun and fight and understand why. So why that is a problem for the military?

Where do you draw the line then? If tomorrow I said I was a helicopter would you be happy having me in that fox hole. What if I tried to fly away?


You people are going insane!!!! The rest of the,World are laughing at you.

 

[jhungary]

How is it propoganda? Either the military spokesman is trans or not.

Her role is for propanganda purpose.....Not she being appointed is a propaganda

Where do you draw the line then? If tomorrow I said I was a helicopter would you be happy having me in that fox hole. What if I tried to fly away?


You people are going insane!!!! The rest of the,World are laughing at you.

Dude, you make no sense. Try to rephase your point into a more fluid sentence.......I don't understand what you are saying.

 

[Yawm al-qiyāma]

Sodom and Gomorra

 

[Foinikas]

Sodom and Gomorra

We agree there.

 

[Yawm al-qiyāma]

We agree there.

First time that you agreed with me you made my day

 

[Foinikas]

So what preclude them from perform in such a post?

I mean, what do you look at on a post like this? The ability to communicate, even fight if they have to, again, I can't see anything preclude crossdressers to do such word? Because they have a weird sense of their gender??

I mean, shouldn't the position be given to people who fit the bill? I still yet to understand how he/she/they should be denied because they have a different view on gender? I mean you don't need to look at her if you don't want to, but to say that this particular person should not held such post because it is public is another story...I mean do you tell transvestite on the street to go home and put on women cloth at home and don't do it in public?

As someone said, there are no law in Ukraine to criminalise transvestitism or any LGBIT offence, so what a person do is what they do and they have every right to do them, you can say you don't like them, or you don't want to hang out with them, that's okay because that's your choice, but I don't think anyone have any say on whether or not people should hire a transvestite except the person is hiring, you may not and I certainly will not, that's fine, but that does not mean everybody else have an issue with it...

If someone dressed as Batman was appointed to official spokesman of the Army in Australia,what would you think?

 

[jhungary]

If someone dressed as Batman was appointed to official spokesman of the Army in Australia,what would you think?

I wouldn't have a problem.

And they already did with the US Army. Think you missed the Army Bagram PSA

 

[Foinikas]

I wouldn't have a problem.

And they already did with the US Army. Think you missed the Army Bagram PSA

Where this world going?

 

[jhungary]

Where this world going?

Dude, you probably are too tight, this is harmless fun...............

 

[Foinikas]

Dude, you probably are too tight, this is harmless fun...............

Trans are harmless fun too?

 

[Jazzbot]

Reminded me of a punjabi saying:

"Je gal khusreyaan te aa gai ae te fer haar ee mann lo"


@lastofthepatriots @Ghareeb_Da_Baal

 

[jhungary]

Trans are harmless fun too?

As I said, I don't really know what's your issue with trans. I don't like trans people probably as much as you, I don't go talk to them, and I don't socialise within their circle and frankly, I don't want to know their circle and I don't understand why people would want to dress up as a woman (as a man) or man (as a woman) probably as much as you, but at the end of the day, these people are people, and they have their right, same as me and you. Just because you don't like them does not mean they don't have the right to do whatever they do, or people should not and cannot take these people seriously. I mean when will it stop? How about gays and les? How about Asian? How about people with weird faces?

You really need to let this go, at some point you will know, you can either keep hating these people and "red eyeing " on what they did and live a vengeful life, or you need to accept these stuff happen and you can't really stop that.