UK: Violent Neo-Nazis outnumbered by peaceful anti-fascist demonstrators

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This is getting serious in UK. Notice the Israeli flag with the EDL, interesting.


UK: Violent Neo-Nazis outnumbered by peaceful anti-fascist demonstrators

Posted on September 6, 2009 by nigs3


Members of the English Defence League are corralled by police in a subway during a rally in Birmingham on September 5. (Christopher Furlong/Getty Images)

The English Defence League staged a march near the Bullring shopping centre in Birmingham this weekend but its small band of supporters was drastically outnumbered by anti-fascist campaigners and riot police. The protest ended in violent skirmishes and running battles through the city’s busy shopping streets on Saturday evening.

Members of the League resorted to bitter in-fighting today as supporters labelled the organisers “ridiculous” and the event a “shambles”. The Times

LONDON—More than 30 people were arrested in Birmingham city centre on Saturday after fighting broke out between far-right protesters and groups of youths, police said.

A little-known nationalist group calling itself the English Defence League met in the town centre to protest against what they see as Islamic militancy in Britain.

The demonstration led to angry clashes between the protesters and groups of youths who hurled bottles at each other and bricks at police.

West Midlands Police were prepared for the trouble, which they said involved little more than 200 people in all. The force employed additional officers from three other regions.

They said violence flared by mid-afternoon in the New street area of the city, close to the main train station.

Detective Chief Inspector Sue Southern for West Midlands Police said during the course of the day more than 30 men were arrested in the town centre after sporadic incidents of disorder.


UK fascists beat up on a peaceful Asian protester

In addition, she said a significant number of people had been arrested on buses that left the Bennetts Hill area of the city.

“Officers acted quickly and robustly to quell pockets of disorder caused by several groups of 20 to 30 men,” Southern said.”Shoppers in and around the Bullring shopping centre were unaffected by the disorder, with retailers reporting no effect on trade,” she added.

Riot police have been deployed across the city to deal with any further outbreaks of disorder, West Midlands police said in a statement.

On its website, the English Defence League had urged its supporters to avoid violent clashes after a similar march it organised last month in Birmingham city centre was also marred by fighting and arrests.

Under a banner on its website which reads: “Peacefully Protesting Against Militant Islam,” the group says it is not a fascist organisation. It also says it has no affiliation with any other far right groups including the British National Party.
Despite efforts to promote the event, fewer than 100 were thought to have gathered. Left-wing groups including Unite Against Fascism were alerted to the march and were able to organise a counter demonstration.

Despite efforts to promote the event, fewer than 100 were thought to have gathered. Left-wing groups including Unite Against Fascism were alerted to the march and were able to organise a counter demonstration.

But a website contact for the group, Trevor Kelway, lists friends on Facebook who are BNP supporters and others who use swastikas as their facebook identity pictures.

Despite the failure of the first large event, the League insists it will continue to hold demonstrations. Comments on the group’s website, and the affiliated football hooliganism site Casuals United said that the next one would be bigger.

One message on the Casuals United site read: “We will arrange it via the Inner Circles secret forums, so we will arrive unnanounced and neither the police or the scum will know any details.”

Some members may find it more difficult to travel to future demonstrations after West Midlands Police said that they were studying footage of the violence and would consider applying for injunctions against troublemakers.

A police spokesman explained that the English Defence League had not informed local police of their intension to march but said that officers had no power to prevent a demonstration.

The English Defence League claim not to be a racist group and say that they have no ties with the British National Party. One of the websites linked to the League is believed to have been set up by a known BNP member, but that has now been taken down in an apparent attempt to conceal any link.

Nick Griffin, the leader of the BNP, insisted that there was no link with the group. He said: “It’s a potentially very dangerous development. I understand it mainly comes from Luton … which is a tinderbox.”

Paul Ray, who claims to be one of the founding members of the League, says that the group has been taken over by a cabal of extremists including Chris Renton, whose name appears on the list of BNP members leaked last year.

The group, which organises events on its website and through a Facebook group with 198 members, plans to hold its next large official gatherings in Harrow and Luton in August and then in Manchester in October. The Times

 

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Don’t pray for ‘infidel’ downfall: Saudi cleric

RIYADH: Muslims should avoid prayers that call for the destruction of non-Muslims, an influential Saudi cleric said. Many mosque Imams and preachers in some Muslim countries, including Saudi Arabia, close their Friday sermons with prayers that call for the destruction of Islam’s enemies, especially Israel and its allies.

“Praying for the ruin and the destruction of all infidels is not permitted because it goes against God’s law to call upon them ... to take the righteous path,” Sheikh Salman al Awdah told Dubai-based MBC Television channel. “Calling for their offspring and ancestors to be eradicated is not legitimate ... (except) for the tyrants among the infidels and those who violate the sanctities and harm the faithful,” he said. Awdah, whose criticism of the Saudi ruling family in the 1990s earned him praise from Osama Bin Laden, has since denounced the Saudi-born Al Qaeda leader and said his network was responsible for the deaths of many innocent people.

Saudi Arabia has had mixed success in persuading influential clerics to discourage radical ideology, which espouses violence against non-Muslims as well as Muslims or Muslim governments seen as a un-Islamic. Awdah is a director of the Arabic edition of the website Islam Today and he has a number of TV shows and newspapers articles. Bin Laden had cited Awdah’s writings in his statements before the latter urged him last year to abandon violence. reuters

 

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Don’t pray for ‘infidel’ downfall: Saudi cleric

RIYADH: Muslims should avoid prayers that call for the destruction of non-Muslims, an influential Saudi cleric said. Many mosque Imams and preachers in some Muslim countries, including Saudi Arabia, close their Friday sermons with prayers that call for the destruction of Islam’s enemies, especially Israel and its allies.

“Praying for the ruin and the destruction of all infidels is not permitted because it goes against God’s law to call upon them ... to take the righteous path,” Sheikh Salman al Awdah told Dubai-based MBC Television channel. “Calling for their offspring and ancestors to be eradicated is not legitimate ... (except) for the tyrants among the infidels and those who violate the sanctities and harm the faithful,” he said. Awdah, whose criticism of the Saudi ruling family in the 1990s earned him praise from Osama Bin Laden, has since denounced the Saudi-born Al Qaeda leader and said his network was responsible for the deaths of many innocent people.

Saudi Arabia has had mixed success in persuading influential clerics to discourage radical ideology, which espouses violence against non-Muslims as well as Muslims or Muslim governments seen as a un-Islamic. Awdah is a director of the Arabic edition of the website Islam Today and he has a number of TV shows and newspapers articles. Bin Laden had cited Awdah’s writings in his statements before the latter urged him last year to abandon violence. reuters

You are quite correct. Here we have Militant White Nationalists - versus - Militant Islamists. Both sides have closed their minds towards those outside of them. Fanatical Islamists refuse to recognize a world outside of Islam. So what happens when they succeed in canabalizing all non-muslims (or 'convert' them)??? Then they'll canabilize each other, like they have for over a millenia!