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UK newspaper 'The Independent' to use 'Bombay' instead of Mumbai as stand against 'Hindu nationalism

Well the article emphasized about Shiv Sena interest so no doubt that could be one of the reasons for change of name how ever IMO it shouldn't be at all. Once i heard that even before Bombay, it was already named as Mumbai before East India government so i would say that history revised.

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Bro if you don't care why you have to post it :rofl:

Coz deep down I care :D

I actually think Bombay is fine to use in English.

Just like in English, it is called Rome...not Roma. Munich not Munchen. Cologne not Koln. Even in French we call it "Le Caire" not Cairo.

English names are not something to be dictated by India....we can use side by side whats the problem. I mean we still use Bombay everywhere still, including BSE (stock exchange) and tons of company names.

But Indians have made this into Istanbul/Constantinople type thing for no god damn good reason and wrapped it in a blanket of blahblah nationalism (the nationalism I have no time or inclination for).

What I really don't care about is this action by the "independent" and the reason they give for it. British snobbishness is never more than an arm's length it seems. Just use Bombay if you want to, why announce it all fancy-pants style like a bunch of snoots.
 
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I would still call it Bombay, It's more of a good will, From Bollywood to Bombay duck the name is significant with the place, Renaming it might have well been a feel good factor the ultra nationalists but then again when have they done anything significant
 
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I would still call it Bombay, It's more of a good will, From Bollywood to Bombay duck the name is significant with the place, Renaming it might have well been a feel good factor the ultra nationalists but then again when have they done anything significant
Calling it Bombay is pejorative, just because the british couldnt pronounce Indian names they made it Bombay as per their liking, just like Niggers,jigaboos and all racist terms used by white people to describe blacks.
The usage of bombay Instead of Mumbai citing Hindu nationalism is a hangover of British Empire, when it no longer exists,it wants to feel good, just like the Birtish aid it used to give.They know Bharat is not in their hands anymore and out of reach for them now.They have to beg to do business with us not the other way around.
Besides what is the point of changing to Bombay when there is no Independent News paper circulated in Bharat?
 
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London: British newspaper The Independent will switch back to using Bombay rather thanMumbai when referring to India's financial capital, its editor said Wednesday.
Amol Rajan said the move was a stand against what he said was the closed-minded view of Hindu nationalists.

The city was officially renamed Mumbai in 1995, a change forced through by the far-right Shiv Sena party. However, within the city, the old colonial name and the Marathi-language name are often used interchangeably.

"The whole point of Bombay is of an open, cosmopolitan port city, the gateway of India that's open to the world," said Rajan, who was born in Kolkata -- formerly known as Calcutta -- and raised in London.




"If you call it what Hindu nationalists want you to call it, you essentially do their work for them," the 32-year-old told BBC radio.

"As journalists, as someone who edits The Independent, it's incredibly important to be specific about our terminology.

"I'd rather side with the tradition of India that's been open to the world, rather than the one that's been closed, which is in ascendance right now," he said, referring to the ruling Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party.

Their coalition partner Shiv Sena is strongly pro-Marathi, the dominant language and ethnic group in the state of Maharashtra, of which Mumbai is the capital.

Rajan said post-colonial India had the "open, secular, pluralist and tolerant" tradition of India's first prime minister Jawaharlal Nehru and independence leader Mahatma Gandhi.

It also had a "slightly nastier strain of Hindu nationalism" and it was important to "venerate the tradition of India which shows the best of India -- an open metropolis".



Shiv Sena renamed the western Indian city after the goddess Mumbadevi, the protector of fisherman who were the area's original inhabitants.

Marathi speakers had always called the city "Mumbai", and the move was popular among that community, whereas "Bombay" was an anglicised take on the Portuguese colonial name "Bom Bahia", or "good bay".

UK newspaper 'The Independent' to use 'Bombay' instead of Mumbai as stand against 'Hindu nationalism' | Zee News
I think it is upto to people of India to decide the name of their city, not some London based journalist.
 
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London: British newspaper The Independent will switch back to using Bombay rather thanMumbai when referring to India's financial capital, its editor said Wednesday.
Amol Rajan said the move was a stand against what he said was the closed-minded view of Hindu nationalists.

The city was officially renamed Mumbai in 1995, a change forced through by the far-right Shiv Sena party. However, within the city, the old colonial name and the Marathi-language name are often used interchangeably.

"The whole point of Bombay is of an open, cosmopolitan port city, the gateway of India that's open to the world," said Rajan, who was born in Kolkata -- formerly known as Calcutta -- and raised in London.




"If you call it what Hindu nationalists want you to call it, you essentially do their work for them," the 32-year-old told BBC radio.

"As journalists, as someone who edits The Independent, it's incredibly important to be specific about our terminology.

"I'd rather side with the tradition of India that's been open to the world, rather than the one that's been closed, which is in ascendance right now," he said, referring to the ruling Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party.

Their coalition partner Shiv Sena is strongly pro-Marathi, the dominant language and ethnic group in the state of Maharashtra, of which Mumbai is the capital.

Rajan said post-colonial India had the "open, secular, pluralist and tolerant" tradition of India's first prime minister Jawaharlal Nehru and independence leader Mahatma Gandhi.

It also had a "slightly nastier strain of Hindu nationalism" and it was important to "venerate the tradition of India which shows the best of India -- an open metropolis".



Shiv Sena renamed the western Indian city after the goddess Mumbadevi, the protector of fisherman who were the area's original inhabitants.

Marathi speakers had always called the city "Mumbai", and the move was popular among that community, whereas "Bombay" was an anglicised take on the Portuguese colonial name "Bom Bahia", or "good bay".

UK newspaper 'The Independent' to use 'Bombay' instead of Mumbai as stand against 'Hindu nationalism' | Zee News
Ya...big whoop.... so what... i still call Bangalore...Bangalore... instead of Bengaluru... call it whatever you like.
 
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Same case with Banaras, Calcutta etc

Indians know how to call their places ,cities and states .
Who give a shit about some british newspaper?
Of Course India is a Hindu nation and we dont need to explain anything to anyone .
For Indians it will be always Mumbai ,Kolkata,Chennai ,Bengluru etc ,and that is all that matters .


And of course this is non of your business.
 
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Indians know how to call their places ,cities and states .
Who give a shit about some british newspaper?
Of Course India is a Hindu nation and we dont need to explain anything to anyone .
For Indians it will be always Mumbai ,Kolkata,Chennai ,Bengluru etc ,and that is all that matters .


And of course this is non of your business.
What about Indian Muslims, Sikhs, Christians and others why not India a hindu state in Indian constitution ? Did Modi interoduce new constitution or RSS charter is enough ?
 
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Independent being a cheap attention wannabe here.

Seeking controversy to gain popularity.

Nothing new, as this business for news media.
 
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Calling it Bombay is pejorative, just because the british couldnt pronounce Indian names they made it Bombay as per their liking, just like Niggers,jigaboos and all racist terms used by white people to describe blacks.
The usage of bombay Instead of Mumbai citing Hindu nationalism is a hangover of British Empire, when it no longer exists,it wants to feel good, just like the Birtish aid it used to give.They know Bharat is not in their hands anymore and out of reach for them now.They have to beg to do business with us not the other way around.
Besides what is the point of changing to Bombay when there is no Independent News paper circulated in Bharat?


Not "now'.They cant fix their leg in India not anymore like they did during colonial times
I would still call it Bombay, It's more of a good will, From Bollywood to Bombay duck the name is significant with the place, Renaming it might have well been a feel good factor the ultra nationalists but then again when have they done anything significant


Then you should call entire 1.25 billions as ultra nationalists .
Officially and for official means it would be always Mumbai for entire Indians :D

What about Indian Muslims, Sikhs, Christians and others why not India a hindu state in Indian constitution ? Did Modi interoduce new constitution or RSS charter is enough ?


Minorities of India dont need a guardian angel from across the border that is already 'failed' in protecting their own minorities and also known as infamous failed state .

Or we can say that 'that is none of your business'.
 
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No Sir i can discuss any thing which i like, if you have any problem you can ignore this thread.

Yes yes,

U can even copy paste some one else's articles and present them here as yours. But when u talk about my nation. Me and my countreymen have all the rights to counter your stupidity :rofl:
 
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Then you should call entire 1.25 billions as ultra nationalists .
Officially and for official means it would be always Mumbai for entire Indians :D

Thats just silly.. 1.3 billion Indians didn't have a say in it, Or what it was called.. Only the Shiv Sena did.. Anyway i'm not arguing about the right of the British press say in it.. They don't have a right.. Even though the journalist is of Indian origin

They should change Bollywood in to Mollywood and all the other things that was synonymous with Bombay.. Why keep some things when it suits you but discard other with such a hue and cry chest thumping ?? :P
 
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No Sir i can discuss any thing which i like, if you have any problem you can ignore this thread.

Of Course you can discuss anything you want .And we will reject and repeat this same sentence zillion times

Internal affairs of India is none of your business.
Thats just silly.. 1.3 billion Indians didn't have a say in it, Or what it was called.. Only the Shiv Sena did.. Anyway i'm not arguing about the right of the British press say in it.. They don't have a right.. Even though the journalist is of Indian origin

They should change Bollywood in to Mollywood and all the other things that was synonymous with Bombay.. Why keep some things when it suits you but discard other with such a hue and cry chest thumping ?? :P

Really?
Molly wood is malayalam films .And bollywood is hindi films .
How can we interchange that ?
May be SS did that .But officially entire Indians and also foreigners use a name 'Mumbai'.
 
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Really?
Molly wood is malayalam films .And bollywood is hindi films .
How can we interchange that ?
May be SS did that .But officially entire Indians and also foreigners use a name 'Mumbai'.

Lol.. I dunno what wood you blokes call what, Bollywood, Mollywood, Morningwood.. Anyway it's just a pretension to Hollywood in the first place.. :D

But thats beside the point if it's the wish of Shiv Sena to change the name to Mumbai in some nationalistic fervor, Change everything thats synonymous Bombay as well and that includes Bollywood.. Why keep names that works for you, It's hypocritical to pick and choose.. Actually most non Indians and lots of expat Indians too still refer to the place as Bombay.. It will take another generation or so for Bombay to loose it's usage, If it ever does
 
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