Uighurs: China putting pressure on German MPs

[Bismarck]

Uighurs: China is putting pressure on German MPs

November 10, 2018, 3:46 pm
China has accused Germany of meddling in its internal affairs over a human rights debate in the Xinjiang region and threatened to have consequences for German-Chinese relations. The Bundestag debated in Xinjiang on the so-called "human rights situation" on 8 November, despite the strong objections of the Chinese side, wrote the spokesman for the Chinese Embassy in Berlin in a statement published on the website of the Embassy. With its "arbitrary charges against reality" Germany is carrying out a "gross violation of Chinese sovereignty".

China was extremely dissatisfied and protested diplomatically with a demarche in front of the Bundestag and the Federal Government. Such a protest note is usually addressed directly to government agencies. However, Beijing appears to want to put pressure on parliamentarians.

China has been under international pressure for a long time because it has targeted members of the Turkic population of the Uyghurs and other Muslim minorities in the Xinjiang region. Xinjiang is home to 23 million people, of whom more than 10 million are Muslims. Sanctions had already been considered in the US. A UN human rights committee recently reported that more than one million members of the Uighur population were detained in camps.

"In the right direction"

Riots in the region had killed hundreds of people in recent years. After fierce fighting in 2009 and a series of terrorist attacks, the security forces intervened there. The German Bundestag had dealt with the situation in Xinjiang last Thursday. In a motion by the Greens, it was called "arbitrary mass arrest of members of the minorities of the Uighurs and Kazakhs".

The Chinese embassy spokesman threatened the parliamentarians on the state website indirectly with negative consequences. He called on the Bundestag to call his country "to look at the overall picture of German-Chinese relations and to refrain from unjustified allegations against China and interference in China's internal affairs." It is to be hoped that the German side takes the concern and the demarche seriously, "to ensure that German-Chinese relations continue to develop in the right direction".

"The problem of violence and terrorism in Germany does not differ from that in Xinjiang, China," argued the embassy spokesman. "There are people being brainwashed by terrorist extremist groups abroad, religious fanaticism, and the tendency to violence." "Since the 1990s, there have been thousands of terrorist attacks in Xinjiang that have cost or injured thousands of lives, and it is now possible that no violent terrorist attacks have taken place for 22 months.

Criticism in the UN Human Rights Council

Green MP Margaret Bause said to the Embassy on behalf of the Embassy that it protects against such interference, warnings or even threats. In Baus' office, a staff member of the embassy had called to articulate the displeasure of the Chinese. The human rights spokesman of the CDU / CSU parliamentary group, Michael Brand, strongly criticized China's response to the parliamentary debate: "That's not possible," said Brand Spiegel Online. Foreign Minister Heiko Maas, who is traveling to Beijing with a business delegation on Sunday According to Brand, this must be clear: Beijing is not only about economic dominance, but also about the attack of the liberal system of the West. Maas also wants to talk about the situation of the Uighurs in China.

Shortly before the parliamentary debate, several Western states, including Germany, have criticized China's government for treating the Uighurs at a UN Human Rights Council in Geneva last week. US Ambassador Mark Cassayre urged China to release "the hundreds of thousands and possibly millions of people immediately" who were arbitrarily detained in the region. The representatives of Canada and the United Kingdom said that the human rights situation in China has generally deteriorated.

The Chinese government again denied the mass arrest of the Uighur Muslim minority in Geneva. China's representative at the hearing, Deputy Foreign Minister Le Yucheng, said the allegations were politically motivated. The UN Human Rights Council regularly reviews the human rights situation in all UN member states

https://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2018-11/uiguren-china-bundestag-debatte-umerziehungslager-druck​

 

[zectech]

The mass arrests occur in the states and Europe where kids are thrown into schools to teach the kids sodomy acceptance. That is abuse. Not teaching people the Chinese language and culture at any age. That is not abuse nor a mass arrest.

Here is the mass indoctrination jails in the UK:

https://www.christianpost.com/news/...uality-nursury-school-uk-teachers-say-181006/

If you complain or try to take your kids out, you could be facing CPS taking your kid away for not allowing your child to be abused by sick educators.

Authoritarian "governments" in the west, not in China:

https://breggin.com/school-calls-child-services-on-parents-who-take-child-off-of-ritalin/

 

[Bismarck]

The mass arrests occur in the states and Europe where kids are thrown into schools to teach the kids sodomy acceptance. That is abuse. Not teaching people the Chinese language and culture at any age. That is not abuse nor a mass arrest.

Here is the mass indoctrination jails in the UK:

https://www.christianpost.com/news/...uality-nursury-school-uk-teachers-say-181006/

Teaching sexual education is one thing. Putting mio of peoples into prison because of there religion and ethnic or let me tell it in your words, because of not enough to be Chinese is another.

Your point of view is interesting. You can compare school education with human concentration camps as we have seen in my homeland in the past.

What we are talking here is a violent assimilation.

 

[T-123456]

The mass arrests occur in the states and Europe where kids are thrown into schools to teach the kids sodomy acceptance. That is abuse. Not teaching people the Chinese language and culture at any age. That is not abuse nor a mass arrest.

Here is the mass indoctrination jails in the UK:

https://www.christianpost.com/news/...uality-nursury-school-uk-teachers-say-181006/

If you complain or try to take your kids out, you could be facing CPS taking your kid away for not allowing your child to be abused by sick educators.

Authoritarian "governments" in the west, not in China:

https://breggin.com/school-calls-child-services-on-parents-who-take-child-off-of-ritalin/

I understand your support for China for obvious reasons but come on,who are you trying to fool here?
The world knows exactly whats going on in China,there are no million terrorists among the Uyghur population,so lets call it what it is.
China has "concentration"( or whatever you want to call them) camps,used only to assimilate and destroy the Uyghur identity.
If they are so innocent,why all these many threads about how ''good'' life is and how ''happy'' the Uyghurs are in Xinjiang by Chinese members.
And the funny thing,they only show ''happy'' Uyghur girls(check it out).
So forget it,nobody is buying it.
Btw,i dont care if they are Muslim or not,they are Uyghur,thats all i care about.

 

[zectech]

So the young vulnerable Turks in Germany are taught sodomy acceptance in German schools and not one peep out of the Turks in Turkey. But the Chinese teaching the Chinese culture to Turks of all ages is a concentration camps, yet the schools in Germany are not. So teaching sodomy acceptance to Turkish 10 year olds is far better to Turks than the Chinese language and Chinese dances to Turks.

“The idea is to show children that there are different ways to love and live,” says Markus Ulrich, of the German LGBT rights group Lesben und Schwulenverband (LSVD). The issue is brought in on a day-to-day basis. “For example, in maths, a teacher could set a question that includes a gay family,” says Ulrich. “Or in English when they study Romeo and Juliet, they could ask about other types of relationships that are sometimes disapproved of.”


Germany’s 16 states set their own curriculum, and Hesse is the latest to say teachers must cover LGBT (sodomy) acceptance in schools, following Berlin and Brandenburg, which led the way. But whenever it’s introduced, “it’s always the same, it always goes with protests,” says Ulrich.

“I cover the different ways to live and the difference between sex and gender,” he says. “And we discover that a lot of sexism is based on stereotypes (Muslim cultural values are sterotypes).”

Mayus says the children enjoy learning about sex and diversity (read sodomy). “They’ve never talked about it before, so we make it fun and we laugh a lot,” he says.

https://www.theguardian.com/educati...hools-exploring-love-equality-and-lgbt-issues

The children were initially taken away from their religious parents, Dirk and Petra, under Germany's strict homeschooling laws. Germany requires all children to attend school, and homeschooling is essentially banned, except for in very rare circumstances

 

[Bismarck]

China’s outrageous behavior to prescribe us what we have to discuss in our parliament and what not is unacceptable. Our (economic) relationship with China give them not the right what we have to debate and what not. China should start stop to lock up the mio innocent people before the UN will start these issues with coming sanctions.

So the young vulnerable Turks in Germany are taught sodomy acceptance in German schools and not one peep out of the Turks in Turkey. But the Chinese teaching the Chinese culture to Turks of all ages is a concentration camps, yet the schools in Germany are not. So teaching sodomy acceptance to Turkish 10 year olds is far better to Turks than the Chinese language and Chinese dances to Turks.

“The idea is to show children that there are different ways to love and live,” says Markus Ulrich, of the German LGBT rights group Lesben und Schwulenverband (LSVD). The issue is brought in on a day-to-day basis. “For example, in maths, a teacher could set a question that includes a gay family,” says Ulrich. “Or in English when they study Romeo and Juliet, they could ask about other types of relationships that are sometimes disapproved of.”


Germany’s 16 states set their own curriculum, and Hesse is the latest to say teachers must cover LGBT (sodomy) acceptance in schools, following Berlin and Brandenburg, which led the way. But whenever it’s introduced, “it’s always the same, it always goes with protests,” says Ulrich.

“I cover the different ways to live and the difference between sex and gender,” he says. “And we discover that a lot of sexism is based on stereotypes (Muslim cultural values are sterotypes).”

Mayus says the children enjoy learning about sex and diversity (read sodomy). “They’ve never talked about it before, so we make it fun and we laugh a lot,” he says.

https://www.theguardian.com/educati...hools-exploring-love-equality-and-lgbt-issues

The children were initially taken away from their religious parents, Dirk and Petra, under Germany's strict homeschooling laws. Germany requires all children to attend school, and homeschooling is essentially banned, except for in very rare circumstances

To be clear, are you comparing schools lesson (sexual education) with concentration camps? Are you out of mine or you really thing we are all purely idiots?

 

[zectech]

This is not a forum of the wicked, this is a Pakistan forum. Let the Pakistanis choose, in this classroom, you will learn the Chinese language and Chinese dances. In another classroom, you and your children will be indoctrinated with sodomy acceptance.

Sodomy acceptance schools or the Chinese language schools. Choose.

 

[T-123456]

So the young vulnerable Turks in Germany are taught sodomy acceptance in German schools and not one peep out of the Turks in Turkey. But the Chinese teaching the Chinese culture to Turks of all ages is a concentration camps, yet the schools in Germany are not. So teaching sodomy acceptance to Turkish 10 year olds is far better to Turks than the Chinese language and Chinese dances to Turks.

“The idea is to show children that there are different ways to love and live,” says Markus Ulrich, of the German LGBT rights group Lesben und Schwulenverband (LSVD). The issue is brought in on a day-to-day basis. “For example, in maths, a teacher could set a question that includes a gay family,” says Ulrich. “Or in English when they study Romeo and Juliet, they could ask about other types of relationships that are sometimes disapproved of.”


Germany’s 16 states set their own curriculum, and Hesse is the latest to say teachers must cover LGBT (sodomy) acceptance in schools, following Berlin and Brandenburg, which led the way. But whenever it’s introduced, “it’s always the same, it always goes with protests,” says Ulrich.

“I cover the different ways to live and the difference between sex and gender,” he says. “And we discover that a lot of sexism is based on stereotypes (Muslim cultural values are sterotypes).”

Mayus says the children enjoy learning about sex and diversity (read sodomy). “They’ve never talked about it before, so we make it fun and we laugh a lot,” he says.

https://www.theguardian.com/educati...hools-exploring-love-equality-and-lgbt-issues

The children were initially taken away from their religious parents, Dirk and Petra, under Germany's strict homeschooling laws. Germany requires all children to attend school, and homeschooling is essentially banned, except for in very rare circumstances

Yes,the difference is that you can change schools for those children in Germany and nothing is forced.
In China,they force the Uyghurs,there is no choice.
How can you even compare the two,hopeless attempt,really,unreal.
And this coming from someone living in Europe,to much freedom i guess.

 

[zectech]

Sex education classes are mandatory in Germany, but they aren’t the only way students learn about diversity (sodomy acceptance) – LGBT topics are taught across the timetable

Young vulnerable Turks are forced to listen to sodomy acceptance from their fake authoritarians, the teacher of sodomy acceptance in their concentration camps (schools).

What is wrong with teaching acceptance of the Chinese language and culture. It is not erasing the old culture. But about acceptance of the new culture so there is less extremism.

Europe wants to erase the tradition Muslim beliefs on morality that do not fit zionist ideals on morality.

 

[Bismarck]

This is not a forum of the wicked, this is a Pakistan forum. Let the Pakistanis choose, in this classroom, you will learn the Chinese language and Chinese dances. In another classroom, you and your children will be indoctrinated with sodomy acceptance.

China has the right to educate pupils what ever they want. Even purely Chinese stuffs. But putting people (adults) in concentration camps because of religion and ethnic another story. Or in your words, it’s wicked.

One more thing, we indoctrinated no one we live and love plurality. Teaching pupils sexuality will not make any one homosexual or transgender.

Yes,the difference is that you can change schools for those children in Germany and nothing is forced.
In China,they force the Uyghurs,there is no choice.
How can you even compare the two,hopeless attempt,really,unreal.
And this coming from someone living in Europe,to much freedom i guess.

We have even German- Chinese kindergarten.

 

[zectech]

Sodomy is not acceptable. The Chinese government is the parent of the Chinese people, that is their historical culture.

And the zionist Western press indoctrinates and mind controls the masses. Also through Tavistock Institute, Mk Ultra and scores of other programs to keep Europeans in a Stockholm Syndrome.

China and Chinese culture are good and free. Western culture is about slavery.

 

[Bismarck]

Sex education classes are mandatory in Germany, but they aren’t the only way students learn about diversity (sodomy acceptance) – LGBT topics are taught across the timetable

Young vulnerable Turks are forced to listen to sodomy acceptance from their fake authoritarians, the teacher of sodomy acceptance in their concentration camps (schools).

What is wrong with teaching acceptance of the Chinese language and culture. It is not erasing the old culture. But about acceptance of the new culture so there is less extremism.

Europe wants to erase the tradition Muslim beliefs on morality that do not fit zionist ideals on morality.

Again and again and again, teach pupils what ever you want. Don’t put adults in concentration camps because of there religion and ethnicity.

Sodomy is not acceptable. The Chinese government is the parent of the Chinese people, that is their historical culture.

And the zionist Western press indoctrinates and mind controls the masses. Also through Tavistock Institute, Mk Ultra and scores of other programs to keep Europeans in a Stockholm Syndrome.

China and Chinese culture are good and free. Western culture is about slavery.

I get that feeling that you have no clue what sodomy is. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy

Oral sex or anal sex is sodomy in this matter. I can not speak for everyone here, but both sexual practices are ACCEPTABLE. Teaching sodomy does not mean to force anyone to practise it. Just teach what sodomy is.

On the political side, with which right, China force our government or parliamentarians to not debate Uighurs issue? Who you think you are?

 

[zectech]

LGBT acceptance in the schools is something taught in Europe, as mandatory education. This is called "diversity", according to the jewish social engineers.

 

[T-123456]

Again and again and again, teach pupils what ever you want. Don’t put adults in concentration camps because of there religion and ethnicity.



I get that feeling that you have no clue what sodomy is. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy

Oral sex or anal sex is sodomy in this matter. I can not speak for everyone here, but both sexual practices are ACCEPTABLE. Teaching sodomy does not mean to force anyone to practise it. Just teach what sodomy is.

On the political side, with which right, China force our government or parliamentarians to not debate Uighurs issue? Who you think you are?

Ach,lass es,hat kein zweck(let it be,its no use).

 

[zectech]

TINY SECTION OF THE MASS MIND CONTROL EXPERIMENTS DONE ON ADULTS IN THE WEST.

The CIA's Appalling Human Experiments With Mind Control

https://www.history.com/mkultra-operation-midnight-climax-cia-lsd-experiments

The CIA would go first after families involved in crime and abuse (both the kids and adults), to test the mind control. Then they would go after political enemies. Adults who did not like the CIA or their tactics.

The Western society is terrorism.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/xinj...es-for-rural-poor.552475/page-5#post-10931061