Tunisia has no claim on Carthage... till this day they did nothing to legitimate themselfs as successors.
And Yes no modern state has a claim on their ancestors, none. The one became legitimate is by their ACTIONS related to their heritage, whoever they are.
That's why DNA/Blood has nothing to do in it, since we all are Homo sapiens at the End, so we as whole COULD be successors of somthing made by Humans. And that even in Islam...( no ethnicity is a rightfull successor or ruler related to Islam, in opposite per exemple to judaism etc...)
So yes I have the same legitimacy on today Arabia than you or anyone else around. Like you have the same legitimacy on Maghreb and etc... it's just who you are willing to be a part of it by Actions related to that heritage.
It has been like that for centuries, per exemple during the Arab conquest of N-Africa... till this day Arab are one of the legitimate ppl, like the amazig or berbers etc... even thou' they are not natives..;but they imposed a legacy and therefore earn their legitimacy.
That's why most of Countries in the region has not legacy, therefore no legitimacy. it could happen, mostly will, but as for today, none
You are with all due respect posting nonsense and it does not change the ancestral, historical, geographical facts that I wrote. Similarly Tunisia is the biggest claimant on the legacy of Carthage by virtue of geography, history and ancestry. Let's agree to disagree as we will never agree.
In fact let me put it in another way. The people, their language, their religion, their culture (I am here talking about the past 1400 years of Islamic history) is more or less the same. Let alone the territory (geography) that they inhabit. Not many people can claim that. Let alone the ancestral part which can be traced directly to countless of families and millions of people who still proudly use their ancestors family surnames. For instance I descend directly from the Sharif of Makkah and the Hijazi Hashemites who ruled Makkah and Madinah for over 1000 years in a row. To claim that I have no connection to this solely because the Sharifate of Makkah no longer exists, is nonsense.
This has nothing to do with current rulers (House of Saud) but is much more deeper than this.
Yes, the Brits and French so mightly gave cared about the Sharif family holding the key to the Kaaba for centuries. The power of the Sharif family comes from the ruler. Remove/ attempt to remove the Sharif family will of course result in open rebellion, nothing a few Colombians/South Africans cant put down, or you know give a raise to the people in Mecca and Medinah.
Iran and Qatar have territorial disputes. But they've been more civil about it, and have reached more compromises, than the new Saud king will be.
Similarly to how they cared about the Ottomans. What is your point? No dynasty rules forever.
No, it comes from ancestral legitimacy, tradition (ever since the Abbasid's the local safe guardians were Hashemites by tradition) and LOCAL support. Ottoman presence was limited to a few military barracks. The Sharif of Makkah was allied with the Sultan and recognized his wider authority of the Ottoman Empire. In fact the successor Sharif and Emir was usually sent to Istanbul to be educated and many intermarriages took place between the Hijazi Hashemites and the ruling Ottoman dynasty. Even after both lost power there have been intermarriages. You need to do your homework or I will help you here.
Which territorial disputes is that other than territorial waters related to the gas field that they share? And why are you even discussing "an invasion of Qatar" as if it was an urgent or even believable thing? Clearly this report is nonsense for the reasons that I mentioned.
BTW KSA and Iran share territorial waters as well. I don't see any dispute here. In theory, should Qatar one day be incorporated to KSA or a federal Arabian state, life would go on as well.
Your bias is too big here as usual. Widen your horizon.
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Actually it is the truth. You can take a look and see how many Al-Thani profiles that are engaged in discussions related to the "crisis" on Twitter. At least 2/10 of them are Al-Thani's. I discussed the crisis with a few of them. Most however are not even from Qatar but the usual MB supporters who somehow can tolerate the Al-Thani dynasty/royal family but not other ones. The hypocrisy with that lot is enormous as usual. Anyway now that Hamas and Fatah have agreed to cooperate and no longer are in conflict (great news for Palestine, Palestinians and the region - no outside powers will now use the Palestinians and attempt to play them out against each other or neighboring countries) their influence has diminished. The MB project failed spectacularly as well.
As I have said repeatedly, they should stick to investing in sports venues, art, museums, important pan-Arab initiatives, EDUCATION, infrastructure and keep investing in Qatar and the Arab world rather than playing a game that is much bigger than themselves. There is nothing like a dwarf thinking that he is a giant. It is praiseworthy in some sense but for the most part the objectives are not reached and more trouble than good is created by this behavior and opportunism. Qatari policy has long made little sense and the GCC would not have reacted in this way (especially considering what happened a few years ago and the chance they got to change) if there was not a problem that needs to be solved.
@Sharif al-Hijaz It's not the right thread but I cannot find it, any news on the high-speed rail line linking GCC states, I forgot the thread name
The project has been slowed down but it remains ongoing and it is expected to be finished eventually. However each state must built their part. KSA is doing that currently at least. A high-speed railway connecting Makkah and Madinah will soon be finished for instance and other railways are being built that connect the West, East, South and North with each other.
