No idea what your saying in the first part and it doesnt make any sense, it just seems to extend a conspiracy theory namely the NWO, so i'll refrain from any discussion on theories. Fact of the matter is the Americans came after Laden and bcos the Taliban refused to hand him over ended up fighting them.
Till 2004 - 5, the US hardly knew what they were doing in AFG and were going berserk with rage, Musharaf as well was leading them in all directions. It was Obama in 2008 who started putting the US Withdrawals in place with one final big push.
Well, there's no unlike the Afghanistan here - you can measure up areas controlled by both the talibans in your respective countries and it doesnt matter, they both control a certain populace, have similar numbers of militants,have same idealogies..the TTP is a relatively new group, quite new compared to the other taliban and faced against a better army with no recoqnized support, hence the lower rate of control - so going back to thatguy's argument, despite them not running elections similar to the afg taliban, Pakistan is considered a democracy as much as Afghanistan is one, its nascent for them but they are on that path.
I am quite sure that you had no idea what I was saying , since I mentioned nothing about New World Order or talked about a conspiracy theory . Not sure , where you picked up that part . I just said that the Yanks came after both Taliban and Al Qaeda , one being an enemy and the other sheltering the same enemy which means that the Americans considered even the former as enemy which they have fought all along . The thing about ' Taliban aren't the enemy ' was only propagated by Joe Bidden after the Yanks realized that they needed to negotiate with the same enemy , desperately to pave the way for withdrawal from this unending war . Hence the recent statements about ' Talks to continue despite attacks ' .
Well , the US even now doesn't know what is it , doing in Afghanistan . They came here filled with cocaine fueled rage , not knowing their objectives , not knowing whom to target since everyone was the enemy against invaders , not knowing the time frame and not knowing the repercussions . They always acted their own course despite Pakistani leadership advising otherwise . Musharraf didn't persuade them to come here , now did he ? To believe that a third world country's president was misleading the Americans , is something which I find unrealistic .
So , you cant see a difference between a country with no Central Govt and 70% of areas under insurgent's control with a country with a fully functioning democracy with less than 1% under insurgents ( North Waziristan and certain other areas in the tribal agency ) to state that it ' doesn't matter ' ? I am amazed !
So Pakistani and Afghan Taliban have similar number of fighters somehow ? Where do you get these information from or are you now making things up ?
Keep in mind that the Afghans and U.S are negotiating with Taliban , it isn't the Pakistanis negotiating with TTP , since the army operations are in full swing and the insurgents are being nailed hard in few remaining areas . The TTP aren't a dominant group unlike the Taliban in Afghanistan , with whom we need to negotiate to , bring them to the table and persuade them to participate in elections . Islamabad is taking a ' take no prisoners ' approach with the militants on this side of the border . Still , if anyone even remotely tries to compare Afghanistan and Pakistan , then he needs to get his head checked .
How about rigging and feudal voting patterns in Pakistan?
Think again . Is it something exclusive to Pakistan ?