U.S. officials say Pakistani spy agency released Afghan Taliban insurgents

[DaRk WaVe]

nice one.. i think the whole pupose of Mr karan.1970 here is dead now.. maybe we should start a new thread now " Raw Supporting the Elite newly found Good Talibans"

What Indians don't understand is that 'No one's innocent in this sh!t, NO ONE'


EDIT: MY goodness i ddint saw the link on first page, its the ToI, haaaa, My Foot

 

[karan.1970]

India shifts Afghan policy, ready to talk to Taliban​

In the wake of a possible American pullout from Kabul next year, New Delhi has sharply re-oriented its strategy towards Afghanistan by reaching out to Gulbuddin Hekmatyar’s Hizb-e-Islami party and keeping its door open in case of a reconciliation effort by the Taliban.

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No attributable sources..No statements from named govt officials..

These are statements from a section of Indian media who everybody on this forum loves to bash, but is happy to quote in the instances like this.. Will be happy to concede the point in case there are any official statements from Delhi accepting moderate taliban..

Below is a more recent and official stand of GoI

India and Afghanistan: The Way Forward

In this regard, the big question for India is what will happen when the Americans start to leave. While India is all for a stable government in Afghanistan, it has been dismayed by signals of rapprochement being sent in private by the United States to certain factions of the Taliban. Foreign Secretary Nirupama Rao recently urged the international community to not differentiate between the ideas of a good and bad Taliban.



The Telegraph - Calcutta (Kolkata) | Nation | Eye on Kabul, Delhi sends pro-Iran signal

The US, with help from Pakistan, is planning to “integrate” the “good Taliban” in the administration in Kabul before the international forces leave Afghanistan. India has adopted a policy of wait and watch but has expressed its concerns against the Taliban.

 

[karan.1970]

nice one.. i think the whole pupose of Mr karan.1970 here is dead now.. maybe we should start a new thread "Raw Supporting the Elite newly found Good Talibans"

Dead??? Not even close.. See my response to the post from EMO

 

[Prayag]

What Indians don't understand is that 'No one's innocent in this sh!t, NO ONE'

No ones claiming innocence. Point is how effectively (or clandestinely)you sh** without coming in glare of international community.

ISI bombs kabul embassy and its role is profoundly establised by US and India.

India on its part has reasonable cover for involvement of humaitarian aid to afg. What does pakistan have? Taliban Nostalgia?

 

[JonAsad]

No attributable sources..No statements from named govt officials..

These are statements from a section of Indian media who everybody on this forum loves to bash, but is happy to quote in the instances like this.. Will be happy to concede the point in case there are any official statements from Delhi accepting moderate taliban..

Below is a more recent and official stand of GoI

India and Afghanistan: The Way Forward

In this regard, the big question for India is what will happen when the Americans start to leave. While India is all for a stable government in Afghanistan, it has been dismayed by signals of rapprochement being sent in private by the United States to certain factions of the Taliban. Foreign Secretary Nirupama Rao recently urged the international community to not differentiate between the ideas of a good and bad Taliban.



The Telegraph - Calcutta (Kolkata) | Nation | Eye on Kabul, Delhi sends pro-Iran signal

The US, with help from Pakistan, is planning to “integrate” the “good Taliban” in the administration in Kabul before the international forces leave Afghanistan. India has adopted a policy of wait and watch but has expressed its concerns against the Taliban.

in the end when america leaves will you still be waiting and watching? eventualy ?? tell me .. Wot are your other options ??

 

[Prayag]

in the end when america leaves will you still be waiting and watching? eventualy ?? tell me .. Wot are your other options ??

Every trick need not necessarily be dirty. Try winning common afghanis heart by helping in elevating their living standards, like India is currently engaged in. Whats the point in supporting woman-oppresing, anti-development Islamist radicals??

you know very well that under the taliban you could be hanged for listening to music? You want to count such mercenaries on your side to help common afghanis? That is pathetic.

 

[Philosopher1]

in the end when america leaves will you still be waiting and watching? eventualy ?? tell me .. Wot are your other options ??

We will be there doing the aid works and construction works till any of the bad Taliban, good Taliban, Yankee Taliban, good Taliban, bad Taliban, takes over like when the last time Taliban ruled Afghanistan.
It doesnt matter if the Taliban bombs hospitals, power lines , telecommunications , buildings, roads etc. we will continue with "hope".

 

[karan.1970]

no. you cant just go and expect a country at odds with you to hand over anyone to you without asking for a proof. its purely the case of bow before the might.

Couple of things.. At the time of 9/11, OBL was already a fugitive of Interpol. UN had already put sanctions on Afghanistan for harboring a terrorist (OBL) associated with Al Queda via United Nations Security Council Resolution 1267. So what other proof were they looking for.. It was just a smokescreen..

And the offer from Taliban for a neutral trial came after the hostilities broke out and USA bombed Afghanistan..By then it was too late..

 

[JonAsad]

Every trick need not necessarily be dirty. Try winning common afghanis heart by helping in elevating their living standards, like India is currently engaged in. Whats the point in supporting woman-oppresing, anti-development Islamist radicals??

Tell me where have you applied this philosphy? even in kashmir or against maoist ppl you havent done that ... eat candy say candy and proclaim yourself sweet ...

 

[karan.1970]

in the end when america leaves will you still be waiting and watching? eventualy ?? tell me .. Wot are your other options ??

For finding out India's options, You will have to Wait and Watch

 

[JonAsad]

For finding out India's options, You will have to Wait and Watch

haha u missed Eventualy i hv also predicted sm thing

 

[DaRk WaVe]

No attributable sources..No statements from named govt officials..

Ohh please its an Indian News paper, Now don't you even trust them, the very thing is that India wants to play a role in Afgh & it is been outclassed by ISI not to do so in a manner that they are noe rethinking the whole afghan policy, I can give you at least 50 articles which are saying that India has lost its 'control' in Afgh so now to save its assets, billions of Dollars it has to talk to the damn 'Taliban' & that too to Gulbuddin Hekmatyar’s Hizb-e-Islami party, ooops I thought these are the same people who Indians say are pets dogs of ISI ehh?
am i wrong about it?

These are statements from a section of Indian media who everybody on this forum loves to bash, but is happy to quote in the instances like this.. Will be happy to concede the point in case there are any official statements from Delhi accepting moderate taliban..

Moderate Taliban is term been recently used by some Indian analysts for Mr. Mullah Bradar, just to malign the gains made by ISI, funny times for Pak & hard times for Indians they are still in a shock over arrests, you were some how not able to get the Joke

I have already point out the number of Taliban Leaders that have been liquidated with the help of Pakistan, here it is again, just click

-Afghan Taliban Leaders

there is no point for Pak to support Taliban now,India wanted to activate the Iran-India-Russia alliance in Afgh to protect the Indian interest but Indians have failed miserably in it, Now interests of Taliban & India are now converging that is why they are sending signals to India

-Taliban says it can 'reconcile' with India
-No Direct Conflict With India, Can Reconcile: Taliban

India despite its so called moral won't miss any Chance to reduce the Pakistani Influence in Afgh & she wants her role in Afgh which she is not getting at this time

-Stranded in Afghanistan

& this is height of desperation

-India may talk to ISI, Taliban

Below is a more recent and official stand of GoI
India and Afghanistan: The Way Forward
In this regard, the big question for India is what will happen when the Americans start to leave. While India is all for a stable government in Afghanistan, it has been dismayed by signals of rapprochement being sent in private by the United States to certain factions of the Taliban. Foreign Secretary Nirupama Rao recently urged the international community to not differentiate between the ideas of a good and bad Taliban.

Explained many times, Indians want their say in Afghanistan but Americans are in no position to give a damn to what India says, The matter of fact is that India is on back foot at this time, On one hand Indians say they don't know about Good & Bad Taliban & where as on other hand they are talking about Policy shift consistently plus the recent recent confusion in Indian minds is only pointing at the fact that they might go to any extent to have a say in new Afghan Setup(the news of approaching Gulbuddin Hekmatyar is an example)

anyways i m done for now

 

[JonAsad]

We will be there doing the aid works and construction works till any of the bad Taliban, good Taliban, Yankee Taliban, good Taliban, bad Taliban, takes over like when the last time Taliban ruled Afghanistan.
It doesnt matter if the Taliban bombs hospitals, power lines , telecommunications , buildings, roads etc. we will continue with "hope".

see my reply to Prayag post no. 111

 

[karan.1970]

not a gud example. someone picking up arm against the state within the state is different than someone picking up arms against an attacking country.

You are right.. Wrong example..

yes that is the reason why our social fabric is so fucked up today. this is exactly what made majority pakistanis to see musharraf gov playing in the hands of US in killing muslims. and this is exactly wat i didnt want to go into when i said musharraf dragged us into this war.

And the alternative could have been what happened in Afghanistan.. I personally dont think Musharraf was wrong.. Even a small probability of the alternative would have been unacceptable to a sane leader.. Unlike Taliban...

attacking country without concrete proof and without realising the nature of attack does not go beyond any legality but only comes under arrogance.

Afghanistan was already a sanctioned country for harboring terrorists via a UN resolution. In this case Taliban were being more arrogant banking on the fact that US wont attack. They miscalculated (or didnt care) and Afghanistan paid the price...

all wat u have mentioned comes under arrogance. and we all can see where can this lead you. US is gettin its faced rubbed time and again in afghanistan by some rag tag ppl who carry a cheap gun and wear some second hand shoes.

yes its US which is to be blamed for their arrogance. its them who wanted everyone to surrender unconditionally.

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Not really.. Apart from money, US has had surprisingly low casualties in this war.. Its Obama whose screwed up policies aimed at justification of his Nobel Peace prize that is putting US on the back foot.. Come 2012, I see a big change in the way this war is going..

 

[mr42O]

LOL Who is supporting Taliban and were they are getting money from ? Let me tell you the real story.

On norwegain tv NRK for 2 days ago there was a news that NATO is paying Taliban to allow there supply trucks get trough Taliban area. I guess thats just a cover up stroy since NATO is sponsoring Taliban and selling worlds 2nd largest product HERIONto the world. no OTHER channel og newspapir followed this BIG news because media is controlled. My friends wife is in Afghanistan as doctor and he was REALYYY mad after this news and called his wife to tell this.


They real Taliban are Afghans and fake wana be Taliban sponsored by Indians are Pakistani Taliban. Money India is spending in Afghanistan is HERION money given too them by USA.