U.S. Navy ships pass through strategic Taiwan Strait, riling China

[gambit]

Good that US warship wants to.come within DF-21D antiship ballistic missile range.

That is the most foolish things to do.

We came within range because we know that shit do not work.

 

[Beast]

We came within range because we know that shit do not work.

LOL. Luckily your clown trump decide to step down from trade war with China.

 

[TaiShang]

Okay smarty, why don't your country and your grand dady's country give Taiwan a seat in the UN recognize it as a country then?

Japan is not his country. He is just an imposter.

 

[Suika]

Japan is not his country. He is just an imposter.

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You know where the post is so maybe you should stop playing games...

 

[rott]

You know where the post is so maybe you should stop playing games...

Lol, wannabe Japanese. Have some self respect.

 

[Suika]

Lol, wannabe Japanese. Have some self respect.

Empty tough talk. And off topic. And pathetic that he needs back up. Is as weak as China's claim on Taiwan.

 

[rott]

Empty tough talk. And off topic. And pathetic that he needs back up. Is as weak as China's claim on Taiwan.

No it's as weak as the make up you wear pretending to be someone you're not. lol...

Atleast be proud of what you are even if you look ugly.

 

[Suika]

No it's as weak as the make up you wear pretending to be someone you're not. lol...

Atleast be proud of what you are even if you look ugly.

What DoTell got right is that he spoke towards me after reading the contents of my post. The actual contents of a post is pretty much going to indicate where the poster stands in mind. DoTell responded correctly because he responded to the actual contents of the post. Consider that you should even though you won't.

Anyway, this is supposed to be about Taiwan. The Chief of Naval Operations of the US, John Richardson, had a talk followed by Q&A in late January and one of the question is the Q&A asked about the US destroyers going through the Taiwan Strait and how that can affect US naval relations with the PLA Navy. His response was that is that as they try to work with the PLA Navy they have to be clear on the position that the waters in the Taiwan Strait are international waters therefore from that stand point, the US feels it ought to freely be able to sail anything through there. To which a small applause came up. Small but typically in these talks such as Brookings, CSIS, Atlantic Council, any level of applause to a question is very rare. That part is 51:28 to 57:58.

There was a CSIC talk on January 16th with Japanese Defense Minister Takeshi Iwaya and in the Q&A portion, the question as to whether or not Japan would assist Taiwan against an attack by China, to which he made a rather long and cautious answer but with critical points being that Japan cares for the security and economy of the whole Asia-pacific region and Taiwan is a part of it and that not only Taiwan but also that it is important for all of the sea lanes in the region to be open and not only for Taiwan and he finished by saying that he hopes for Taiwan and China's relations to be peaceful in resolution, discussion, and action and Japan would support that together with the US. That part is from 54:27 to 56:39.

 

[GS Zhou]

Article 4 of the R.O.C constitution:

“中華民國領土，依其固有之疆域，非經國民大會之決議，不得變更之。”

"The territory of the Republic of China according to its existing national boundaries shall not be altered except by resolution of the National Assembly."

R.O.C constitution was made up in 1947 in Nanjing, Jiangsu Province.

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Act Governing Relations between the People of the Taiwan Area and the Mainland Area

Article 2：

The following terms as used in this Act are defined below.

1. "Taiwan Area" refers to Taiwan, Penghu, Kinmen, Matsu, and any other area under the effective control of the Government.

2. "Mainland Area" refers to the territory of the Republic of China outside the Taiwan Area.

3. "People of the Taiwan Area" refers to the people who have household registrations in the Taiwan Area.

4. "People of the Mainland Area" refers to the people who have household registrations in the Mainland Area.

臺灣地區與大陸地區人民關係條例

第 2 條
本條例用詞，定義如下：
一、臺灣地區：指臺灣、澎湖、金門、馬祖及政府統治權所及之其他地區。
二、大陸地區：指臺灣地區以外之中華民國領土。
三、臺灣地區人民：指在臺灣地區設有戶籍之人民。
四、大陸地區人民：指在大陸地區設有戶籍之人民。

 

[Suika]

Article 4 of the R.O.C constitution:

“中華民國領土，依其固有之疆域，非經國民大會之決議，不得變更之。”

"The territory of the Republic of China according to its existing national boundaries shall not be altered except by resolution of the National Assembly."

R.O.C constitution was made up in 1947 in Nanjing, Jiangsu Province.

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Act Governing Relations between the People of the Taiwan Area and the Mainland Area

Article 2：

The following terms as used in this Act are defined below.

1. "Taiwan Area" refers to Taiwan, Penghu, Kinmen, Matsu, and any other area under the effective control of the Government.

2. "Mainland Area" refers to the territory of the Republic of China outside the Taiwan Area.

3. "People of the Taiwan Area" refers to the people who have household registrations in the Taiwan Area.

4. "People of the Mainland Area" refers to the people who have household registrations in the Mainland Area.

臺灣地區與大陸地區人民關係條例

第 2 條
本條例用詞，定義如下：
一、臺灣地區：指臺灣、澎湖、金門、馬祖及政府統治權所及之其他地區。
二、大陸地區：指臺灣地區以外之中華民國領土。
三、臺灣地區人民：指在臺灣地區設有戶籍之人民。
四、大陸地區人民：指在大陸地區設有戶籍之人民。

Old legacy of Chiang Kai-chek. Done in Nanjing since it hasn't fallen in CCP hands yet. Guess what else Chiang did in 1947...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/February_28_incident

Which is why he is veiwed as foreign occupier like Imperial Japan and Qing dynasty.

 

[GS Zhou]

Old legacy of Chiang Kai-chek. Done in Nanjing since it hasn't fallen in CCP hands yet. Guess what else Chiang did in 1947...

Old legacy or not, this is still the CURRENT Constitution that used by R.O.C or Taiwan. And it is this Constitution gives the current Tsai government the power to rule the Taiwan island.

Like it or not, constitutionally, both Taiwan and Mainland China belongs to China. No matter the China is PRC or ROC.

People in Taiwan has the constitutional right to change the current constitution. No matter it is the article about the name of ROC, or the article about territory. The ROC Constitution gives them the right to do so, just like the ROC Constitution mandates that both Taiwan and Mainland China belongs to China.

Of course, once such change happens, there would be consequence, very serious consequence. I hope they won't be that mad on this.

 

[Suika]

Old legacy or not, this is still the CURRENT Constitution that used by R.O.C or Taiwan. And it is this Constitution gives the current Tsai government the power to rule the Taiwan island.

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Like it or not, constitutionally, both Taiwan and Mainland China belongs to China. No matter the China is PRC or ROC.

People in Taiwan has the constitutional right to change the current constitution. No matter it is the article about the name of ROC, or the article about territory. The ROC Constitution gives them the right to do so, just like the ROC Constitution mandates that both Taiwan and Mainland China belongs to China.

Of course, once such change happens, there would be consequence, very serious consequence. I hope they won't be that mad on this.

Hence may previous statement of "ballistic missile gunboat diplomacy".

 

[Jlaw]

No it's as weak as the make up you wear pretending to be someone you're not. lol...

Atleast be proud of what you are even if you look ugly.

 

[GS Zhou]

Hence may previous statement of "ballistic missile gunboat diplomacy".

Diplomacy is a wrong term.

Both Mainland and Taiwan belongs to China. The relationship between Mainland and Taiwan, to a certain extent, is similar to the relationship between Shanghai and Beijing. How can Shanghai and Beijing keep diplomacy relationship?

 

[Suika]

Diplomacy is a wrong term.

Both Mainland and Taiwan belongs to China. The relationship between Mainland and Taiwan, to a certain extent, is similar to the relationship between Shanghai and Beijing. How can Shanghai and Beijing keep diplomacy relationship?

Tell that to the 13 colonies.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder of course.