U.S. Marines probe video of men urinating on Taliban corpses

[scholseys]

Its part of war, the victors do these kinds of things and Pakistanis should be the last on commenting on this thread.

 

[Spitfighter]

Quite frankly we're talking about people who indiscriminately attack civilians, butcher their prisoners, stone women and live in caves. How come I didn't hear anybody yelling war crimes then? At that point all I heard was 'well they aren't really muslims anyway'. Now that a few of their dead have been desecrated, no big deal IMHO, it's suddenly an attack on Islam and Muslims. Can somebody care to explain why everyone's up in arms about this incident? who cares how terrorists are treated, never mind the fact that they were already dead.

 

[Oldman1]

********.com - Disgusting Mistreatment Of Human Taliban Carcasses By Liberated Afghan Forces- Warning: Graphic

This is the acceptable way to treat the bodies by Muslims.

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

Quite frankly we're talking about people who indiscriminately attack civilians, butcher their prisoners, stone women and live in caves. How come I didn't hear anybody yelling war crimes then? At that point all I heard was 'well they aren't really muslims anyway'. Now that a few of their dead have been desecrated, no big deal IMHO, it's suddenly an attack on Islam and Muslims. Can somebody care to explain why everyone's up in arms about this incident? who cares how terrorists are treated, never mind the fact that they were already dead.

You pathetic Indian is feeling insecure because we are speaking against disrespecting of dead bodies. We muslims are even told to respect the dead bodies of enemy. No one is yelling at their killing although we are not sure whether they were taliban, terrorist, villagers or local innocent Afghans who got killed in friendly fire. Not everyone with beard is terrorist. Do your maths and compare the statistic of innocent peopels got killed by talibans and by US illegal invasions then come back. You are against talibans don't mean you should justify this insane behaviour of US marines with their dead bodies but i dont think you can comprehend it

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

********.com - Disgusting Mistreatment Of Human Taliban Carcasses By Liberated Afghan Forces- Warning: Graphic

This is the acceptable way to treat the bodies by Muslims.

so no difference between you and them . You are also animal and uncivilised . Happy?

they are Liberated Afghan Forces


Note: ******** could not verify the authenticity of this video.

 

[Spitfighter]

You pathetic Indian is feeling insecure because we are speaking against disrespecting of dead bodies. We muslims are even told to respect the dead bodies of enemy.

Who cares what you're told? The Taliban/terrorists aren't supposed to be Muslim anyway so what's all the fuss about?

No one is yelling at their killing although we are not sure whether they were taliban, terrorist, villagers or local innocent Afghans who got killed in friendly fire.

Read the title of the thread again buddy. They were terrorists.

Not everyone with beard is terrorist.

Strawman. I never implied anything along those lines.

Do your maths and compare the statistic of innocent peopels got killed by talibans and by US illegal invasions then come back.

What illegal invasions?

You are against talibans don't mean you should justify this insane behaviour of US marines with their dead bodies but i dont think you can comprehend it

The Taliban has done way worse than this. I don't see why anybody should respect them, dead or alive.

 

[Spitfighter]

duplicate post. deleted.

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

Who cares what you're told? The Taliban/terrorists aren't supposed to be Muslim anyway so what's all the fuss about?

So you think i am speaking against pissing on dead bodies because i consider dead bodies as Muslim? Can not you get into your head that its about humanity before anything else. If they were pakistani sodiers doing same thing to indian dead soldiers . I would be speaking against it. I am not narrow minded like you who bring religion in everything. If your beliefs/views stoping you saying wrong thing as wrong because it happen with your enemy then you better reconsider such beliefs

Read the title of the thread again buddy. They were terrorists.
Strawman. I never implied anything along those lines.

So if title say that they are terrorist then they must be terrorist. You will find many such title who consider your soldier operating in Kashmir as terrorist. Will you consider them terrorist because title say so? How can you say surely that they were not innocent civilians who got trap between Nato and talibans. US has good record of killing civilians In Afghanistan and Iraq.

The Taliban has done way worse than this. I don't see why anybody should respect them, dead or alive.

I am not here to defend Taliban and prove who is more evil. I am just speaking against inhuman and insane act without bringing any justification/excuses. Two wrong dont make it right. After reading your comment here i dont see any difference between you and them so i should not respect you

 

[Stumper]

.....because we are speaking against disrespecting of dead bodies.
.....We muslims are even told to respect the dead bodies of enemy.
.....You are against talibans don't mean you should justify this insane behaviour of US marines with their dead bodies but i dont think you can comprehend it

Well, the reason we "Stupid Indians" bother to comment here is that we indeed do comprehend. And hence we find this "holier than thou attitude" as farce, or maybe amusing all together.

So, here is just to remind you

...of your own people
...your own society
... in masses

Doing not so respectable things to the dead.

We respect the dead. Just like you. And Gambit has indeed acknowledged same in initial post. All that he asked was to view this act as that of individuals and not as a representation of the US Armed Forces.

Cheers.

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

^ Now tell me about any Pakistani who did not speak against this brutality of our own peoples. You better look for a topic on defence forum and read our reaction. You proved me right why i called it stupidity. you guys bring one evil to defend/justify another evil which is non sense. Why you cannot speak against this inhuman act without connecting it with others events to make it normal practice

Question was simple

Is it acceptable for professional soldiers/marine/army to piss on dead bodies of their enemy? Should sexual humiliation of prisoners/dead bodies consider accepted practice of warfare?

Now instead of giving answer to these questions, you Indians were talking about terrorism , 9/11 , evil of talibans, pakistan etc and now you bring another irrelevant videos to prove that we should not speak against evil of american because we had evil peoples in Pakistan but as i said we did spoke against evils in our society.

 

[genmirajborgza786]

absolutely disgusting act by the U.S marines.

but what else can the U.S marines & all those who are supporting them do. i mean hey come on folks after all the U.S fighting for a decade with out any success & nearly bankrupting their economy having being bogged down in this conflict & now Finlay realizing the ground realities that they have lost the war & are having to eat their pride by negotiating with the same taleban on whom they were urinating at one time for a face saving exit strategy, while the same taleban even after a decade of fighting the U.S with an impressive success are enjoying their new status as a "major player" sitting comfortably in their newly opened office in Qatar this very tragic development form the prospective of the American's & their supporters is like their very status getting urinated on literally speaking & now wet-ed in disgrace slipping of from their power they are now reaching a point of sympathy

all one can say to the U.S is
even though you played it hard but you lost the "game" oh what a pity oh what a shame

 

[genmirajborgza786]

double post

 

[Pakchina]

These US war criminals should be judged by the La Haye International Court of Justice for war crimes, crimes against humanity, torture, mass killings, and other atrocities committed during the ten years of bombing and killings of civilians in Irak, Afganistan and Guantanamo. US soldiers just like their Government must be held accountable for all these war crimes and be judged in Irak and Afganistan. Justice must apply for all and not only for Saddam Hussein, Gadhafi son and Hosni Mubarak. The US war crimes are somethimes reminiscent of the Japanese Imperial army atrocities committed in China and Asia though the Japanese atrocities were done on a large scale. The US war criminals had killed thousand of innocent women, children and babies with their Weapons of Mass Destructions. After having acknowleged such massacre, the US Generals mentioned that such killings were an error coz they had taken as taliban, innocent women, children and babies. Then these war criminals torture and humiliate civilians and do not respect dead civilians. These criminals with blood in their hands are living good life in the US just like their old Japanese Imperial army Generals and soldiers. All these probe are just eyewash. Its time to bring all these war criminals to La Haye and they must also be brought to the Iraqui and Afganistan courts of Justice.

 

[fd24]

Condemnation of Afghanistan video over the top, says Rick Perry

Republican presidential hopeful said that marines purportedly shown urinating on corpses should not be prosecuted

The Republican presidential hopeful Rick Perry has accused the Obama administration of "over-the-top rhetoric" and "disdain for the military" with its condemnation of a video that purportedly shows four US marines urinating on corpses in Afghanistan.

Perry's comments also put him at odds with Senator John McCain, the top Republican on the Senate armed services committee.

Perry said the marines involved should be reprimanded but not prosecuted on criminal charges.

The Texas governor said on CNN's State of the Union programme: "Obviously, 18 and 19-year-old kids make stupid mistakes all too often. And that's what's occurred here.

"What's really disturbing to me is the kind of over-the-top rhetoric from this administration and their disdain for the military."

McCain, who expressed concern that the images could damage the war effort, had said: "The Marine Corps prides itself that we don't lower ourselves to the level of the enemy. So it makes me sad more than anything else, because … I can't tell you how wonderful these people [marines] are. And it hurts their reputation and their image."

No one has been charged in the case but officials in the US and abroad have called for swift punishment of the four marines. The defence secretary, Leon Panetta, has said that he worried the video could be used by the Taliban to undermine Afghan peace talks.

A military criminal investigation and an internal Marine Corps review are under way. The Geneva conventions forbid the desecration of the dead.

Later, appearing on the same show, as Perry, McCain said: "We're trying to win the hearts and minds" of the Afghanistan population. "And when something like that comes up, it obviously harms that ability."

Meanwhile, another Republican presidential candidate, Rick Santorum, has boasted of an 11th-hour endorsement from conservative Christian leaders for his bid, in the runup to South Carolina's crucial primary vote – but it appeared to have little influence on churchgoers.

Time is running short for Santorum and other Republican candidates who hope to slow frontrunner Mitt Romney's drive towards the Republican presidential nomination.

Santorum said that Saturday's endorsement by evangelical leaders proved he was a better choice than Romney to take on President Barack Obama.

"They know I'm the consistent conservative," Santorum said on the programme Fox News Sunday. "They saw me as someone who has the best chance of winning."

The backing appeared to have little impact among evangelicals, who account for more than half of South Carolina's Republican voters.

"I make decisions for myself and I don't listen to what a bunch of leaders say to do," said Victoria Jaworowski, who was attending the Cathedral of Praise mega-church in North Charleston.

The Christian leaders meeting in Texas only endorsed Santorum narrowly in a vote that went to a third ballot. It is not clear how they will help the former Pennsylvania senator in terms of money or campaign staff .

Many voters say they are willing to overlook Romney's moderate past in order to unite behind a candidate who can beat Obama.

Yes the Americans know how to build bridges -NOT

Condemnation of Afghanistan video over the top, says Rick Perry | World news | The Guardian

 

[Indus Falcon]

Perry said the marines involved should be reprimanded but not prosecuted on criminal charges.

Well if it's only a reprimand then I'd gladly piss as well as $hit all over Perry! How many of you care to join me?