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Rafia Zakaria



THE trial of Saudi Mohammad Fahad al-Qahtani had been going on since June 2012 in the criminal court in Riyadh.

When Mr Qahtani appeared in court on March 9 this year, he faced 11 charges.

As president of the Saudi Civil and Political Rights Association (ACPRA), he was accused among other things of “attempting to plant the seeds of discord and strife”, “questioning the Saudi Ulema Council by implying that they were a tool of the Saudi government”, “questioning the ability of the Saudi judiciary to deliver justice in accordance with Islamic Sharia” and “accusing the Saudi regime of being a police state built on injustice and oppression veiled in religion”.

A copy of the prosecutor’s memo listing all the charges in Arabic can be found on various sites on the internet.

Mr Qahtani founded the ACPRA in 2009, a human rights organisation that helped detainees in Saudi prisons, many of them held without charge or trial. It was one of the few independent such organisations there.

As its founder Mr Qahtani — a Western-educated economics professor — became in recent years one of the most fervent critics of the Saudi establishment. Because of his position on the lack of legal and political rights available to prisoners in Saudi Arabia, he faced several obstacles.

A year ago, Mohammed Saleh al-Bejadi, co-founder of the ACPRA, was also arrested by the Saudi authorities. He was subsequently sentenced to four years’ imprisonment and a five-year travel ban.

After his arrest, and during and after his trial and sentencing, Mr Bejadi was not allowed to see his legal team. They were also not permitted to visit him during his trial, forced instead to stand outside the courtroom for hours while proceedings took place inside.


When Mr Qahtani and his fellow defendant Dr Abdullah al-Hamid appeared in court on March 9, therefore, they knew that their chances could not be good.

According to reports, shortly after 10am Hammad al-Omar, the judge appointed to the proceedings, began to read the judgement against them. Predictably, both Mr Qahtani and Dr Hamid had been found guilty on every single count.

They were sentenced to five and 10 years respectively and travel bans equivalent to the prison sentences were also imposed. Additionally, the court ordered the forced disbanding of the ACPRA, the confiscation of all of its property and the shutting down of its social media accounts.

The trial and sentencing of Mr Qahtani is representative of a potent strain of upheaval festering within Saudi society as it deals with the reverberations of the Arab Spring.

The trial of Mr Qahtani, short as it was, represented the nervousness of the Saudi establishment in confronting demands for change and an opening up of civil and political rights.


At a hearing prior to the sentencing, the court had faced severe criticism for not holding open proceedings. The March 9 hearing was perhaps in response to this very pressure, open to the public. However, apprehensive about the defendant’s supporters packing the courtroom, the Saudi authorities ensured that most of the seats were filled by members of the Saudi security establishment.

Like so many other posturing ‘freedoms’ in Saudi Arabia, a trial “open to the public” did not allow the public to be present.

Unusual for Saudi Arabia was the response of ordinary Saudis, many of whom took to the social media to criticise the verdict. According to reports from Twitter, Saudi Arabia has seen a phenomenal increase in the number of users over the past few years, with almost 250,000 new users signing up in a single week.

Three million Saudis are said to have Twitter accounts equalling nearly 11pc of the total Saudi population and representing the fastest single growth in the use of that means of social networking.

Though not revolutionary in itself, the elevation must be alarming to Saudi authorities when they consider the importance of the social media in whetting and sustaining the uprisings in Egypt and other parts of the Arab world.

The fact that many Saudi Twitter users were using the platform to criticise the government annoyed even Saudi religious authorities with the Grand Mufti Sheikh Abdul Aziz Al-Sheikh calling Twitter users a “council of clowns”.

The newfound affinity of Saudi citizens to tweet their displeasure at Saudi authorities is, however, unlikely to help Mr Qahtani, whose condition in prison is reported to be grave following a recent hunger strike to protest his sentence.

Beyond the local, international help is also unlikely to be of much assistance. While Amnesty International and other rights groups immediately issued denunciations of the sentences, few of Saudi Arabia’s long-standing allies have taken up the issue.

In his first visit to Saudi Arabia, US Secretary of State John Kerry not only ignored the case of the imprisoned activists but went as far as to commend the Saudi king’s decision to appoint 30 women to “advisory” roles in the Shura Council as an example of positive reform in the country.

The American silence, added to the general inability of countries in the Muslim world to take on Saudi Arabia on any issue, however egregious, means that at least for the present time, imprisoned Saudi activists such as Mr Qahtani can expect little redress and no justice
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The writer is an attorney teaching constitutional law and political philosophy.
 
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Where is the American Democracy? they are only good at preaching democracy but never implementing ?? oh wait I forgot... GCC leaders are their puppets... thus no need for democracy...
 
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U.N. Expert Says Bahrain Canceled Visit in Torture Inquiry
By NICK CUMMING-BRUCE
Published: April 24, 2013

GENEVA — A United Nations expert who was due to visit Bahrain next month to look into reports that the authorities there have abused and tortured protesters in detention said on Wednesday that the Bahraini government had effectively canceled the trip.

Bahrain’s decision “does not enhance transparency with regard to the situation in the country, nor demonstrate a commitment to redress impunity regarding any violations,” said the expert, Juan E. Mendez, in a statement released in Geneva. Mr. Mendez is based there as the United Nations’s special rapporteur on torture.

The cancellation follows a week of clashes between the police and opposition demonstrators in Bahrain, mostly in villages outside Manama, the capital. They were timed to coincide with a Formula One auto race in Manama, which attracts international media attention. The race took place on Sunday without incident, but the protests signaled a simmering challenge to the ruling Al Khalifa family.

Mr. Mendez had been scheduled to meet a number of key government ministers and officials during a visit that had been discussed since September 2011. An independent commission of inquiry reported late that year that some detainees in Bahrain had been tortured to death and others subjected to physical and psychological abuse to extract confessions or as punishment. The commission and the U.N. Human Rights Council recommended a number of reforms; Mr. Mendez said in a telephone interview that his visit would have given him an opportunity to see how much the Bahrain government had done to implement them.

He was originally scheduled to go to Bahrain in February 2012, but the Bahraini authorities canceled the visit on short notice, saying that there had not yet been enough progress on the reforms. Similarly, the letter delivered to Mr. Mendez this week canceling next month’s visit said that talks with the opposition in Bahrain had not progressed as fast as expected and that the visit could damage their chances of success.

A government statement carried by the Bahrain News Agency said that Mr. Mendez had postponed the trip. “Let me be clear,” Mr. Mendez said in his statement, “this was a unilateral decision by the authorities.”
 
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Notice what the crimes this gentleman is accused of :


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questioning the Saudi Ulema Council by implying that they were a tool of the Saudi government”, “questioning the ability of the Saudi judiciary to deliver justice in accordance with Islamic Sharia” and “accusing the Saudi regime of being a police state built on injustice and oppression veiled in religion”.


We are in the 21st century, this not just medieval it's dark ages stuff - Questioning is now a religious crime?
 
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Notice what the crimes this gentleman is accused of :


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We are in the 21st century, this not just medieval it's dark ages stuff - Questioning is now a religious crime?

they don't want anyone to questions them ,because they are mostly wrong... they want people to obey without any questioning...
 
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@Syrian Lion: Bro what is the status of war now? When Terrorists will be kicked out of Syria?? is there any visibility? I hope they get defeated and kicked out of Syria soon...
 
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@Syrian Lion: Bro what is the status of war now? When Terrorists will be kicked out of Syria?? is there any visibility? I hope they get defeated and kicked out of Syria soon...

The Syrian Army is advancing in Homs and Damascus, and Aleppo countryside... soon they will be kicked out, however the terrorists flow is not stopping, countries are allowing terrorists to travel and get trained for example in Turkey and Jordan, then they send them to Syria... for this war to end, the terrorists and weapons flow must end... however it seems like every time the F$A terrorists lose, the terrorists flow with the regional governments support increase... but overall, the Syrian army is regaining control...
 
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they don't want anyone to questions them ,because they are mostly wrong... they want people to obey without any questioning...


Lion:

Something that goes unmentioned on our forum, is that Sodies are getting wise to this - look at the reaction of ordinary people who know they will face violence at the hands of the police state if they protest publicly, but look at the twitter social media traffic - Sodies lead in the growth of the medium -- So all is not lost in Arabia, there are people who are saying that they will not tolerate this in their name - and so while Mr. Al Qahtani may well get railroaded, that will only increase the awareness of the people
 
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The Syrian Army is advancing in Homs and Damascus, and Aleppo countryside... soon they will be kicked out, however the terrorists flow is not stopping, countries are allowing terrorists to travel and get trained for example in Turkey and Jordan, then they send them to Syria... for this war to end, the terrorists and weapons flow must end... however it seems like every time the F$A terrorists lose, the terrorists flow with the regional governments support increase... but overall, the Syrian army is regaining control...




May god be with National Army. I am very much disappointed with West and there support to F$A. Though I am not anti USA/West But I am highly critical of there Iraq War and unwanted intervention in middle east.

National Army must hold the ground and fight till death, If F$A will win, they will create another Afghanistan in middle east.

West is supporting this war because a week enemy (Terrorists) are always better than a strong opponent (Nationalist Syrians). I am upset to see KSA role here, KSA must remain neutral (if they can't be with Syria).

In my view the world should "Either be with Syria" or "remain neutral", There is no need of Jihad in Syria..
 
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Lion:

Something that goes unmentioned on our forum, is that Sodies are getting wise to this - look at the reaction of ordinary people who know they will face violence at the hands of the police state if they protest publicly, but look at the twitter social media traffic - Sodies lead in the growth of the medium -- So all is not lost in Arabia, there are people who are saying that they will not tolerate this in their name - and so while Mr. Al Qahtani may well get railroaded, that will only increase the awareness of the people

I doubt it... Saudi "Arabia" can easily end anyone that is critical of them... the media will kill him/her... can you tell me how many main stream media report about Saudi "Arabia" and Bahrain human rights violations??

May god be with National Army. I am very much disappointed with West and there support to F$A. Though I am not anti USA/West But I am highly critical of there Iraq War and unwanted intervention in middle east.

National Army must hold the ground and fight till death, If F$A will win, they will create another Afghanistan in middle east.

West is supporting this war because a week enemy (Terrorists) are always better than a strong opponent (Nationalist Syrians). I am upset to see KSA role here, KSA must remain neutral (if they can't be with Syria).

In my view the world should "Either be with Syria" or "remain neutral", There is no need of Jihad in Syria..

that is main problem, the world is interfering not for sake of peace, instead they are interfering and encouraging bloodshed...
 
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Lion:

Something that goes unmentioned on our forum, is that Sodies are getting wise to this - look at the reaction of ordinary people who know they will face violence at the hands of the police state if they protest publicly, but look at the twitter social media traffic - Sodies lead in the growth of the medium -- So all is not lost in Arabia, there are people who are saying that they will not tolerate this in their name - and so while Mr. Al Qahtani may well get railroaded, that will only increase the awareness of the people

What saddens me "Muse" is the fact that you and I could very well be on the same side, our opinions on many things are intertwined in fact, however you seem to be unable to get passed your own prejudice and bigotry to realize that.

You talk about accepting differences and equality for all, which is at the forefront of my beliefs however at the same time you seem to accept differences and equality for all minus Arabs of Arabia.
 
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Welcome back Maso - good to read you again - Aah yes, my bigotry - Well, set that aside - I had explained to you early on that you must not allow yourself to be a tool -- and I know where your thinking is - now, not being a tool, means being honest - The more you are honest about what is being done in your name and that you oppose it, the more you will find my "bigotry" lessening.

Horrible and dangerous things are happening in your and other Arabs names -- and everywhere the pace of change is accelerating, I invite you to add your conscience, thinking and your voice.

Back to my "bigotry" - are you familiar with "method to the madness"?
 
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Welcome back Maso - good to read you again - Aah yes, my bigotry - Well, set that aside - I had explained to you early on that you must not allow yourself to be a tool -- and I know where your thinking is - now, not being a tool, means being honest - The more you are honest about what is being done in your name and that you oppose it, the more you will find my "bigotry" lessening.

Horrible and dangerous things are happening in your and other Arabs names -- and everywhere the pace of change is accelerating, I invite you to add your conscience, thinking and your voice.

Back to my "bigotry" - are you familiar with "method to the madness"?

And the more you realize that "Nothing" is being done on my name the faster you will learn to let go of your bigotry.
Whatever it is that happens from Saudi Arabia is not being done by Saudis, you should learn not to generalize.

I am not the who voted a president to power for him to do something "in my name" nor am I the one who voted for bills to pass in support of my opinion, I am but an observer, I consider myself to be patriotic none the less, I was born and raised here, this is the land if which I belong, and it is more and more that I realize that I will not be accepted anywhere else since apparently the whole world and you a shining example that I will not be accepted anywhere else.

Do I wish for change? Of course I do, so do every single person of my countrymen, however I am a firm believer that things are changing for the better as time goes on. Reforms are only a matter of time, we don't need you or your ilk to start threads titled "Tyranny and Tyrants" for that.
 
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Do I wish for change? Of course I do, so do every single person of my countrymen, however I am a firm believer that things are changing for the better as time goes on. Reforms are only a matter of time, we don't need you or your ilk to start threads titled "Tyranny and Tyrants" for that.

Well, why don't you leave it up to me to decide what you may or may not need - because I'm not just an observer, I actually can and do effect change - so sit back and observe - and relax, we'll take care of things, one way or another.
 
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