Tymoshenko sure Ukraine will join EU in near future: Interfax

[flamer84]

 

[Audio]

Here comes the receipt for the party.

Ukraine saying it needed $35 billion over two years

Ukraine calls for urgent aid after Yanukovich ousted| Reuters

Will be interesting to see how this turns out from here onwards when real money has to be given.

 

[vostok]

@vostok Mate,who will be Pro Russian candidate in elections in May,dont choose Yanukovich,even his party mark him as robber.Does he have some chance to win?(that candidate),what will happend,do you Eastern Ukrainians deal with it that your country go in EU camp or you will candidate your leader and wait...?

Yanukovych has never been Pro-Russian , though pretending before elections. He withdrew from the political field all normal pro-Russian politicians. Some - killed.
What happened in the country - the result of his stupidity and cowardice of Yanukovich. He was like Nicholas II who destroyed the Russian empire.
While nothing is clear. In Crimea arming people. In Odessa, too. Terrorists from Kiev most likely will go to south.

 

[DejanSRB]

@vostok What will happen with Crimea and Naval Base of Russia in Mediteran sea?

That idiot Tymoshenko want Ukraine in NATO?

 

[vostok]

@vostok What will happen with Crimea and Naval Base of Russia in Mediteran sea?

That idiot Tymoshenko want Ukraine in NATO?

Anarchy in the country. In Kiev still shoot and rob, people come to hospitals with injuries. No road police, no SWAT. Complete crap. No money in the national treasury.

 

[Gabriel92]

Anarchy in the country. In Kiev still shoot and rob, people come to hospitals with injuries. No road police, no SWAT. Complete crap. No money in the national treasury.

Leave Ukraine and come to the west.

But you know where is Ianoukovitch ?

 

[vostok]

Leave Ukraine and come to the west.

But you know where is Ianoukovitch ?

Russia prepares law on which refugees from Ukraine - ethnic Russian can receive citizenship in a simplified mode. So if it will be very tight - I'll go to Russia.
Yanukovych by all Ukrainian laws - yet the current president. But who needs those laws? The coup d'etat and anarchy in 100 times more interesting!

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

What is ukraine's problem?It has some of the most fertile soil in the world,abundant heavy industry and raw materials and access to the sea.I don't really understand why its economy is like this?Explain?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Yanukovych has never been Pro-Russian , though pretending before elections. He withdrew from the political field all normal pro-Russian politicians. Some - killed.
What happened in the country - the result of his stupidity and cowardice of Yanukovich. He was like Nicholas II who destroyed the Russian empire.
While nothing is clear. In Crimea arming people. In Odessa, too. Terrorists from Kiev most likely will go to south.

Well, losing his Presidency to the opposition was not entirely his fault.

Since Ukraine is no like USSR anymore, the President and the Party don't have the control over the army.

Before the riot, the Ukrainian army got already held back and bribed by the West, that's why they chose to side with the opposition, while Yanuvovych's police troop was absolutely exhausted during several months of struggle, they can't handle the situation anymore.

That's why Putin needs a firmly control over the Russian army, otherwise the West will try to repeat the same kind of coup on Russia.

 

[flamer84]

What is ukraine's problem?It has some of the most fertile soil in the world,abundant heavy industry and raw materials and access to the sea.I don't really understand why its economy is like this?Explain?

Same as other former communist states : decrepid,incompetent,corrupt to the bone rulling elites.The Eastern Euros who joined the EU in the last years somehow managed to put a check to rampant corruption (it's still strong tough).Ukraine didn't.

Well, losing his Presidency to the opposition was not entirely his fault.

Since Ukraine is no like USSR anymore, the President and the Party don't have the control over the army.

Before the riot, the Ukrainian army got already held back and bribed by the West, that's why they chose to side with the opposition, while Yanuvovych's police troop was absolutely exhausted during several months of struggle, they can't handle the situation anymore.

That's why Putin needs a firmly control over the Russian army, otherwise the West will try to repeat the same kind of coup on Russia.

I guess it's hard for you to understand that not all soldiers are as trigger happy when it comes to their fellow citizens as the chinese.

 

[DejanSRB]

@ChineseTiger1986 The main goal of USA isnt Ukraine,but Russia and China.
Ukraine isnt required for USA only to bring closer to Russian border.Only a naive person will believe that minorities want a countries into Russia and China without US support.
So this Ukrainian crisis is lesson to both Moscow and Bejing to consolidate your ranks.

 

[t-birds]

It’s On: Putin Deploys Troop Battalion

A couple of weeks ago President Barack Obama joined Bob Costas in an interview during the opening ceremonies of the Winter Olympic games being held in Sochi, Russia. The President, who didn’t attend the ceremony or games with other world leaders, chalked off his absence to his busy schedule. Obama sent a delegation in his stead that consisted of various gay and lesbian members, which was an obvious political move intended to highlight America’s outrage over Russia’s recent anti-gay legislation.

Though the President claimed in his interview that his relationship with Russian head of state Vladimir Putin was warm, one can’t help but wonder if things between the United States and Russia have soured significantly. A week after claiming he had too much to do and couldn’t support America’s athletes at the games, Obama took a three day golfing junket with buddies.

Then, out of nowhere, just as Vladimir Putin prepared to showcase his $51 billion games to the world, rioting and rebellion broke out in neighboring Ukraine. Some might say that it is pure coincidence, but as Franklin Roosevelt once opined, “”in politics, nothing happens by accident.” Within days of the uprisings investigations began to reveal that U.S. covert operations groups more than likely played a role.

Coincidence? Maybe. But when considering the same modus operandi appeared in uprisings in Iran, Egypt and Syria over the last several years, we can conclude that the United States was heavily involved in the Ukraine as well.

The timing of the Ukranian revolution was just… a little too perfect.

While it may seem, from our perspective, that the United States has the upper hand because Russian-backed Ukranian President Viktor Yanukovych has been deposed in a mirror event of what happened in Egypt, it should be clear that Vladimir Putin knows exactly what’s going on.

This past August, ahead of a possible conflict in Syria Putin reportedly deployed some 160,000 Russian troops to the region and thinly veiled threats of the potential for anuclear counter-strike made headlines. President Obama, in an attempt to save face, backed down, claiming the situation had been defused (though no resolution to the alleged chemical weapons attack had been reached).

Now we’re back to the Ukraine, where a similar set of events are in play. And, once again, not willing to blink in any way, shape or form, and as the Olympic Games came to a close, Vladimir Putin is flexing his military might.

According to a report from Zero Hedge, though Ukraine proper is currently in the hands of pro-Western allies, Putin has deployed troops to Ukranian autonomous Republic of Crimea.

Today at 12:00 from the Russian port of Temryuk should arrive in Sevastopol [Crimea], the large landing ship “Nikolai Fil’chenkov” with 200 soldiers on board. This was reported today by the chairman of the Ukraine “Freedom” faction Oleg Tyagnibok citing sources in the Crimean.
“I can show you the text message” – said Tyahnibok and read: “Today at 12:00 is expected the arrival from the port of Temryuk in the Russian Federation in the city of Sevastopol large landing ship Nikolai Fil’chenkov from the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation. It will bring about 200 armed soldiers from the 328th Marine battalion, who are based in Temryuk and 10 BTR-80.”

He also noted that “on February 22-23, … IL-76 flights airlifted from Kubinka (Moscow region) to Anapa, personnel from the 45th Airborne Special Forces unit and additional divisions were relocated via four Il-76 flights from Pskov to Anapa. And from Sochi to Anapa were transported six Mi-8 helicopsters”- said Tyahnibok.

This appears to not be an isolated move as the naval build up seems to be escalating. In a concurrent release, Izvestia Kiev reported that out of Kubinka, four ships carrying special forces, are being relocated to Anapa. From there, in four hours, they will depart fo Sevastopol at a speed of 10-15 knots, citing “Izvestia in Ukraine” as a source.

A report from Infowars.com indicates that not only are Russian troops now on the peninsula, they have raised the Russian flag over the city of Sevastopol, Crimea and a total annexation of the Republic may be in the works.

Crimea has signaled secession from Ukraine and possible annexation by Russia may be acceptable. The Guardian reported earlier today that a Russian flag was hoisted over the city hall in Sevastopol.

Rumors are rife that Viktor Yanukovych, the deposed president of Ukraine, may be hiding out in Crimea.

John Little at OmegaShock.com penned a brief analysis of the situation in the Ukraine. His insights were eerily prescient. Well before the world was aware of Russian troop movements Little noted that Putin would more than likely be forced to engage in military operations. You see, the Russians simply cannot let the Ukraine fall to the west.

Why?

Because of the Carpathian Mountains.

…since Ukraine is on the Russian side of the Carpathians… those mountains would no longer be a barrier to invasion and would double Russia’s vulnerability. Russia would need twice the army to guard that border. And, Russia cannot afford to support an army of that size.

That is why Russia CANNOT allow Ukraine to fall into the hands of the European Union. So, expect Russia to quietly and firmly up the pressure. If Putin can take back Ukraine by covert means, he’ll do that. If the US and EU block covert action, Putin will send in troops.

Though we don’t foresee any widespread military conflict as a result of the U.S. and Russian moves in the near-term, the mobilization of troops and covert forces from both the East and West is indicative of a growing trend, and one that doesn’t bode well for the future of a peaceful co-existence.

Whether it’s the middle east, Asia, north Africa or eastern Europe, Russia and the United States continue to bump heads.

President Obama backed down in Syria.

What happens in the Ukraine remains to be seen, but it should be clear that these regionalized skirmishes will continue in an effort by both Russia and the United States to realize hegemony over resources, geography and political influence around the world.

In an interview with Joel Skousen of World Affairs Brief, it was noted that the eventual result of these mini-conflicts will be nothing short of thermo-nuclear warfare.

President Obama will be on his way in a few years. We can expect Vladimir Putin to be the President of Russia for decades to come. And you can be assured of one thing: Putin wants Russia to be at the top of the food chain and he’ll stop at nothing to make that happen.

One of these days he’s going to get fed up with the games, and along with China, they’ll begin the process of attacking America. In fact, the process has already begun on the economic playing field. Sometime within the next decade, as noted by Joel Skousen, we’re going to see someone push that legendary “red button” and all hell will break loose.

Ukraine may not be the trigger event, but it sure as heck provides an insight into the mindset of the leaders vying for power.

We can be fairly certain that Vladimir Putin is willing to go all the way to protect Mother Russia’s interests. How far is our Nobel Peace Prize winning President willing to go to do the same for the Homeland?

 

[vostok]

Well, losing his Presidency to the opposition was not entirely his fault.

Since Ukraine is no like USSR anymore, the President and the Party don't have the control over the army.

Before the riot, the Ukrainian army got already held back and bribed by the West, that's why they chose to side with the opposition, while Yanuvovych's police troop was absolutely exhausted during several months of struggle, they can't handle the situation anymore.

That's why Putin needs a firmly control over the Russian army, otherwise the West will try to repeat the same kind of coup on Russia.

Army of Ukraine subordinate to the President . He had all the resources to stop the insurgency in first days. In Belarus, the West every few years trying to arrange maidan , but Lukashenko takes the side of the people and not allow terrorists to come to power . Yanukovych simply rag - he feared for his life . He believed that he can negotiate with the West - but as soon as he signed an agreement with the opposition ( with the West ) - he was immediately declared illegitimate and now there is no guarantees even for his live , not talking about freedom and money.
It would seem that the fate of the Mursi and Gaddafi and Milosevic should have to show everyone that the West only respects the law of force . But no. There are still many fools.

 

[flamer84]

and now there is no guarantees even for his live , not talking about freedom and money.

Wow,you want that garbage to actually keep his money?,erghhh ...your money bozo !! he couldn't have that fortune on state salary.

@DejanSRB-UPDATE- Hahaha mate,we allready have the first nation asking autonomy for their ethnics (some 150.000) living in Ukraine .Care to guess who that country is ? It's starts with an "H " followed by a "u"....ends in "y" ......Shameless bastards.

 

[DejanSRB]

@flamer84 OMG ,I wonder how much energy Hungarians have for that questions,what a useless life.I think that I have a offer they cant refuse.
Hungary from California to Tokio,it seems to meet their ambitions.