Two men beat up Muslim couple, sexually harass woman for not chanting Ram-Ram

[WarKa DaNG]

What the fukc is wrong with these people

 

[Ritual]

Please stop trying to convince people who have an undying hatred for Hindus. No matter what you do, you will never convince them. They will drown in their own hatred as they have been for the past 70 years.

You cannot explain the intricacies or complexity of majority minority relations to a country which hardly has any minorities left. Those few that are still left are migrating to India till date. You don't see Indians Muslims sneaking into Pakistan and begging for citizenship do you ?

Some of us do accept we have issues in Pakistan and currently IK is funding to restore temples and gurdwaras, the Kartarpur corridor and making religious visits easier. It is a step in the right direction.

But the current Indian majoritarian bend, where lynchings of minorities are downplayed or accepted, threats to empty India of all minorities such as the below by RSS chiefs is a regular occurence. Why do you pretend this doesn’t happen?

https://www.opendoorsusa.org/christ...l-christians-leave-india-in-publicized-video/
‘In a video being widely circulated on social media, a controversial Hindu leader has called for Christians to leave India in a video that shows a group stomping on images of Pope Francis.’


Go back to where you came from’: Christians in India living in fear, says bishop

https://catholicherald.co.uk/news/2...ristians-in-india-living-in-fear-says-bishop/

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

Is yale university anti hindu too or hates hindus which says that BJP gains votes every time there is a riot


BJP gains in polls after every riot, says Yale study

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...riot-says-yale-study/articleshow/45378840.cms

Hindu socety votes for rioters, mass murderers and terrorists. Everyone knows that



That is because Pakistan doesn't allow any muslim immigrant from India unlike India that has a clear policy of allowing hindus from India and BD to settle in India

Poor economic condition of Indian muslims is another reason. Poor guys can't even afford to relocate to other place

Not just Hindu candidates but also Muslims candidates with criminal records are elected. It is because of their power and resources to get things done. Also, because of insecurities that communities have to live with especially in the backdrop of riots. These things are far too complex for those with no religious diversity to understand.

Just because Pakistan wont allow them to settle doesn't mean that Indian Muslims can't go there as refugees seeking asylum. Refugees including Pakistani refugees regularly go to countries that they know wont allow them to settle only with the hopes that they may get it one day and the situation back home had become intolerable.

Anyway, any source from the Pakistani government which says that Indian Muslims seeking to migrate to Pakistan won't be allowed to ?

India, Pakistan and Bangladesh are just three desi societies with desi problems.

Though I must say, Bangladesh is a bit better than the other two.

Bangladesh too has a big problem with treatment of Hindu minority.

 

[jamahir]

Bangladesh too has a big problem with treatment of Hindu minority.

Let's ask two BDeshis @BDforever, @Bilal9

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

Some of us do accept we have issues in Pakistan and currently IK is funding to restore temples and gurdwaras, the Kartarpur corridor and making religious visits easier. It is a step in the right direction.

But the current Indian majoritarian bend, where lynchings of minorities are downplayed or accepted, threats to empty India of all minorities such as the below by RSS chiefs is a regular occurence. Why do you pretend this doesn’t happen?

https://www.opendoorsusa.org/christ...l-christians-leave-india-in-publicized-video/
‘In a video being widely circulated on social media, a controversial Hindu leader has called for Christians to leave India in a video that shows a group stomping on images of Pope Francis.’


Go back to where you came from’: Christians in India living in fear, says bishop

https://catholicherald.co.uk/news/2...ristians-in-india-living-in-fear-says-bishop/

I am not denying that there are problems in India but to say like Areesh that entire Hindu society is radicalised, especially since he himself comes from Pakistan is wrong. Even in the OP it's clearly mentioned that a crowd gathered and thrashed the miscreants and handed them over to the cops. Yet he says that Hindu society is like this.
If Pakistani society is so just and fair why not become a secular country and give people of all religions equal opportunities in Pakistan ?

The current phase in India is a phase of the right wing. The same is happening in many countries including the US. The pendulum will swing back.

Let's ask two BDeshis @BDforever, @Bilal9

Google is your friend.

 

[jamahir]

Google is your friend.

Sure but I want to hear what the two say too.

If Pakistani society is so just and fair why not become a secular country and give people of all religions equal opportunities in Pakistan ?

I don't think Nehru would have been comfortable with the current interpretation in India of Secularism - which basically in Indian governance means "I will tolerate your religious nonsense as long as you tolerate mine".

The current phase in India is a phase of the right wing.

I hope there is no Continuous-BJP 3.0.

 

[Safriz]

Jai Siri payee

Very yummy...

 

[BL33D]

India, Pakistan and Bangladesh are just three desi societies with desi problems.

Though I must say, Bangladesh is a bit better than the other two.

I concur, but there is a crucial difference, the humiliation makes India do stuff to correct them, but Pakistanis stay in denial, keep mocking and do nothing.

Sure but I want to hear what the two say too.



I don't think Nehru would have been comfortable with the current interpretation in India of Secularism - which basically in Indian governance means "I will tolerate your religious nonsense as long as you tolerate mine".



I hope there is no Continuous-BJP 3.0.

There will be a BJP 3.0 and probably a 4.0 if Congress doesnt get its policies and ideology straight. They dont have a leadership, RG was never groomed to be one. He is the bilawal of India. INC leaders keep giving contradicting statements. Mock BJP when its not necessary ad when they do for right reasons, no one takes them seriously,.Also the Gandhi lineage ruling. Things need to change drastically at the top to be a viable counter to Modi.

 

[N.Siddiqui]

Is yale university anti hindu too or hates hindus which says that BJP gains votes every time there is a riot


BJP gains in polls after every riot, says Yale study

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...riot-says-yale-study/articleshow/45378840.cms

Hindu socety votes for rioters, mass murderers and terrorists. Everyone knows that

Goes on to prove(your post) that most of the terror attacks blamed on Pakistan was Saffron terror and initiated by VHP, Bajrang Dal, RSS top planners and executioners.


Posted this in another thread...

The hardliner Hindutva parties in India needs a constant supply of oxygen of hate and bigotry, a permanent xenophobia against either Muslims or against Pakistan to make them relevant, contestable in elections and get the electorates.

If there is no hate in India the RSS, VHP, Bajrang Dal and BJP too will become irrelevant.

If there is no hate in India against Indian Muslims and against Pakistan(at times both are the same thing) than there will be no radicalization and there will be no polarization between Hindus and Muslims, this polarization in India is needed by RSS/VHP/Bajrang Dal/many Sena's and BJP too.

The rise of these radical parties is directly proportional to the rise of hatred and bigotry and vice versa....and the demise of secular Congress.

So every episode that creates hatred like Pulwama, Pathankot, Uri, Mumbai, dozens more should be looked into in this context. These false flag terrorist incidence are needed in India...so as to let the hatred stay and with it the extremist parties.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

Sure but I want to hear what the two say too.



I don't think Nehru would have been comfortable with the current interpretation in India of Secularism - which basically in Indian governance means "I will tolerate your religious nonsense as long as you tolerate mine".



I hope there is no Continuous-BJP 3.0.

BJP will take the next election unless there is a decent opposition to choose from.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Indian Muslims are a done deal!! BDs gonna join them shortly!!! All will be lynched to death chanting Ram-Ram!!! For a reason Pak was created, but most of the sub-continental Muslims with low Yakin have fallen prey to the propaganda of the Mushrikin...

 

[jamahir]

I concur, but there is a crucial difference, the humiliation makes India do stuff to correct them, but Pakistanis stay in denial, keep mocking and do nothing.

Well, there is one difference. The Progressives in India are more organized.

There will be a BJP 3.0 and probably a 4.0 if Congress doesnt get its policies and ideology straight. They dont have a leadership, RG was never groomed to be one. He is the bilawal of India. INC leaders keep giving contradicting statements. Mock BJP when its not necessary ad when they do for right reasons, no one takes them seriously,.Also the Gandhi lineage ruling. Things need to change drastically at the top to be a viable counter to Modi.

BJP will take the next election unless there is a decent opposition to choose from.

I agree with you two.

Congress should see that it will be nowhere if it goes alone. Thus it should form a common platform with all Progressive movements ( AAP, Swaraj Abhiyan, CPI-M etc ).

And one more thing. Congress leaders ( like Manmohan Singh did ) should refrain from floating silly statements that the Naxalites are India's security threat. I would say that all Progressive movements should implore upon the Supreme Court to open dialogue with the Naxals. Enough of this 50 year old war.

Indian Muslims are a done deal!! BDs gonna join them shortly!!! All will be lynched to death chanting Ram-Ram!!! For a reason Pak was created, but most of the sub-continental Muslims with low Yakin have fallen prey to the propaganda of the Mushrikin...

The issue in India is not all Muslims fighting all Hindus.

Between 2013 and 2017, four Progressives were assassinated by the Hindutva Right-wingers. All four were Hindu.

 

[Areesh]

Not just Hindu candidates but also Muslims candidates with criminal records are elected. It is because of their power and resources to get things done. Also, because of insecurities that communities have to live with especially in the backdrop of riots. These things are far too complex for those with no religious diversity to understand.

You still didn't get it. Voting criminals is one thing. Voting for mass murderers and rioters after a communal riot is all together other thing

India's hindu society actually votes people looking at their "performance" in a riot. They vote people just because they have killed "mullas" in a riot. I have seen hundreds of such bharati hindus who take pride in performance of Modi in Gujarat 2002 and proudly say that they voted modi because he taught muslims a lesson

We have our own religious diversity. We have shias, sunnis among many other sects. But people here don't vote because of their "performance" against a particular sect

Shias form more than 15% of Pakistani population but still I am yet to see anyone voting for some candidate because he was "good" against them in some riot or some attack. Shias are only attacked by ban outfits like LeJ, TTP etc who are enemy to state of Pakistan

Just because Pakistan wont allow them to settle doesn't mean that Indian Muslims can't go there as refugees seeking asylum. Refugees including Pakistani refugees regularly go to countries that they know wont allow them to settle only with the hopes that they may get it one day and the situation back home had become intolerable.

I read few years ago that muslims who form only 14% of Indian population make around 40% of Indian immigrants in Europe.

So people have there own ideas of leaving India. Just because people are not coming to Pakistan or you don't see them coming to Pakistan doesn't mean Indian muslims are not escaping India

Anyway, any source from the Pakistani government which says that Indian Muslims seeking to migrate to Pakistan won't be allowed to ?

Any source that Pakistani government was offering Indian Muslims to come to Pakistan? Pakistani government didn't even bring back biharis from East Pakistan despite those people dying to come here

You are clutching to straws.

There is something rotten with Indian hindu middle class and it is a reality. Accept it and do something to cure it

I am not denying that there are problems in India but to say like Areesh that entire Hindu society is radicalised, especially since he himself comes from Pakistan is wrong.

Hindu society is radicalized. They support mass murderers, rapists, terrorists etc openly

This is not a claim. This is a reality.

If Pakistani society is so just and fair why not become a secular country and give people of all religions equal opportunities in Pakistan ?

Because Pakistan always was supposed to be a muslim state where rights of minorities would be ensured. It was always supposed to be an Islamic country

Unlike India that claimed itself to be a secular country and used secularism as a ploy to get more and more land instead of providing security to minorities

 

[jamahir]

The hardliner Hindutva parties in India needs a constant supply of oxygen of hate and bigotry, a permanent xenophobia against either Muslims or against Pakistan to make them relevant, contestable in elections and get the electorates.

If there is no hate in India the RSS, VHP, Bajrang Dal and BJP too will become irrelevant.

If there is no hate in India against Indian Muslims and against Pakistan(at times both are the same thing) than there will be no radicalization and there will be no polarization between Hindus and Muslims, this polarization in India is needed by RSS/VHP/Bajrang Dal/many Sena's and BJP too.

The rise of these radical parties is directly proportional to the rise of hatred and bigotry and vice versa....and the demise of secular Congress.

Unfortunately you are true to a large extent.

And even if someone in India does not hate Pakistan, they are forced to chant anti-Pakistan statements. Take the recent proclamation by an "Association of Western-Indian Cine Workers" or some such. The proclamation demanded that all Indians involved in the film world stop working with Pakistanis or Pakistani-origin people in any capacity. The proclamation said any Indian film person who doesn't follow the proclamation will be boycotted by the rest of the Indian film world. Sad.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Soon, a crowd gathered and thrashed the youth, later taking them to the police station

Good. Some decent individuals exist in Hindustan.