Two martyred in attack on Pakistan Navy vehicle in Gwadar

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Ina Lillahi Wa Ina Alaihi Rajioun.

 

[Areesh]

This kind of post is against Forum Rules, and in poor taste.

Really Einstein??

Can you please tell me why this scumbag @padamchen is tagging all Iranians on this thread and why you haven't deleted them?

Lets be realistic on certain things

Exactly

Now why don't you be realistic and accept the fact that Iran has been supporting Baloch sub nationalist terrorists for past few years?

This is what your foreign minister said just less than two years ago about Iran and its support for BLA terrorists


Pakistan Says Iran-Based Group Behind Deadly Attack

Pakistan Says Iran-Based Group Behind Deadly Attack

Pakistan has urged Iran to take action against terrorist groups believed to be behind the killing of 14 soldiers earlier this week.

www.rferl.org

Sectarian terrorists are other terrorists that Iran supports in Pakistan other than BLA/BLF terrorists

 

[LeGenD]

Really Einstein??

Can you please tell me why this scumbag @padamchen is tagging all Iranians on this thread and why you haven't deleted them?

Loo jee - aap nay mujhey bhi daant diya.

When he did that, you reciprocated and he escalated, and your exchange became very enlightening as it progressed further (Rated R levels). You were unwittingly feeding trolling in short.

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I have trimmed this thread. Cheers.

 

[pakpride00090]

The most pathetic part will be how the state responds. Velvet gloves. A bunch of sandal wearing BLA thugs recruited by Indians, Afghans and Americans are carrying out hit and run operations. The state is just sitting idle.

Don't forget Iran

 

[Iñigo]

Balochistan Liberation Army

Balochistan Liberation Army - Wikipedia

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Sipah-e-Sahaba

Sipah-e-Sahaba - Wikipedia

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Lashkar-e-Jhangvi

Lashkar-e-Jhangvi - Wikipedia

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All this is confusing to me, when one of these three organizations kills, the reaction of this forum ... there are clearly things here that I do not understand and I would like to understand

 

[Iñigo]

"Twenty-seven IRGC members were killed in the February suicide car bombing near the border with Pakistan. The Sunni Muslim extremist group Jaish al-Adl claimed responsibility for the attack"

and

"Qureshi said 15 gunmen wearing military uniforms ambushed a bus in southwestern Balochistan Province killing 14 Pakistani Army personnel (...) Pakistan has urged Iran to take action against terrorist groups believed to be behind the killing of 14 soldiers earlier this week"

now i understand a little this question

 

[Iñigo]

Jaish al-Adl

Jaish ul-Adl - Wikipedia

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Ansar Al-Furqan

Ansar Al-Furqan - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[khansaheeb]

Expect such attacks to continue. The US and India are very obsessed and concerned with CPEC. They don't hide their frustration under the rug. India overtly supports BLA. The US provides covert support to BLA. BLA terrorists enjoy moral support from Western capitals. BLA members and leaders are given refuge in Western capitals. They are actively nurtured to propagate hate against the Pakistani state. The Pakistani state is sleeping as usual.

Pakistan needs to deal with BLA heavy handedly or get ready for another challange that might become too big to handle.

I wonder how much money these terrorists are being paid by their Hindjew masters to bring havoc to CPEC. If two divisions isn't enough then we should up it two 3 divisions and another 3 to free occupied Kashmir.

 

[Dalit]

Jaish al-Adl

Jaish ul-Adl - Wikipedia

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Ansar Al-Furqan

Ansar Al-Furqan - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

These are all shady groups that are predominantly offshoots of a group named Jundullah. Very dodgy groups that are fighting against Iran Shiite rule, but they are being controlled and armed by others. They are ineffective and Iran has broken Jundullah's back pretty hard. They rarely succeed on the Iranian side.

Pakistan needs to have a similar approach. Unfortunately in Pakistan we are way too soft on such groups. We have groups like BLA and PTM on our side. They are being financed and armed by India, Afghanistan and I would say even the US. Many Western nations have provided refuge and asylum to BLA members. Now you can imagine why they have done such a thing. They are legitimizing their terror activities in Pakistan. Portraying BLA as victim and oppressed. Legitimizing BLA terrorism against Pakistanis in general.

 

[Iñigo]

Baloch

Baloch people - Wikipedia

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"Balochi are an iranian people"

OMG

27 IRGC members were killed in the suicide car bombing near the border with Pakistan. The extremist group Jaish al-Adl claimed responsibility for the attack

but in "killing 14 Pakistani Army personnel" ... "Balochi" are seen as "iranian" (?)

is this the question (?)

 

[Dalit]

I wonder how much money these terrorists are being paid by their Hindjew masters to bring havoc to CPEC. If two divisions isn't enough then we should up it two 3 divisions and another 3 to free occupied Kashmir.

They are paying them and brainwashing them real good. This is a collosal failure on our side. It means the state and armed forces have zero control over the narrative. If locals are being used to carry out attacks this is obviously a big failure.

Baloch

Baloch people - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

"Balochi are an iranian people"

OMG

27 IRGC members were killed in the suicide car bombing near the border with Pakistan. The extremist group Jaish al-Adl claimed responsibility for the attack

but in "killing 14 Pakistani Army personnel" ... "Balochi" are seen as "iranian" (?)

is this the question (?)

Balochi people exist on both sides. Pakistan has a province called Balochistan and so does Iran.

You have to understand the importance of this geostrategical region to understand why there is sudden interest by Western nations, India and the US to sow unrest. China and Pakistan are involved in CPEC and this particular region is at the heart of this massive project.

The US, India and many Western nations don't want China to succeed. Hence their opposition to the main OBOR project CPEC. This is a very vicious conflict where many sides have their own interests.

 

[Iñigo]

Jundallah

Jundallah (Iran) - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

thank you

 

[Big Tank]

Lets be realistic on certain things, Yes Iran has in the past fueled sectarianism inside Pakistan, there is no denying but it has largely remained sectarianism, killing people of other sects. This is different, killing of army personals is an Indian hall mark. India is the only one who shelters, trains and support terrorist organizations like BLA.
Iran is no saint however fueling terrorism inside Balochistan will be last in their priority list since it can very well spread into their own part of Balochistan, so it should make little sense for them to fuel terrorism inside Balochistan. India on the other hand has made their intention very clear about Balochistan. Let us not divert attention from the real enemy here.

The terrorism they're blaming on Iran is anti Iran itself. Communist Baloch are More Anti Iran than Anti Pakistan since Iran is authoritarian state.

In past, Iran have supported Sipah e Muhammad which later severed its ties with Iran and worked for the ISI to kill Sipah e Sahaba leaders which weren't being loyal to the ISI and Nawaz Govt of 90s.

The game isn't that simple.

 

[IceCold]

Really Einstein??

Can you please tell me why this scumbag @padamchen is tagging all Iranians on this thread and why you haven't deleted them?


Exactly

Now why don't you be realistic and accept the fact that Iran has been supporting Baloch sub nationalist terrorists for past few years?

This is what your foreign minister said just less than two years ago about Iran and its support for BLA terrorists


Pakistan Says Iran-Based Group Behind Deadly Attack

Pakistan Says Iran-Based Group Behind Deadly Attack

Pakistan has urged Iran to take action against terrorist groups believed to be behind the killing of 14 soldiers earlier this week.

www.rferl.org

Sectarian terrorists are other terrorists that Iran supports in Pakistan other than BLA/BLF terrorists

Oh i do acknowledge that, Iran has done that in the past but it was always sectarian in nature. On the other hand attacks on army personals have always had Indian hand. There was a time Iran was playing Indian hand but a doze of reality struck them hard after india abandoned them and now since they are looking at Chinese investment, it makes no sense for them to attack chinese infrastructure in Pakistan.
On the other hand who has the most problem with CPEC, its India and the US. US for over a decade looked the other way while india carried out its subversive activities against pakistan. Even now with the new regime in the US, we can expect much of Obama's policy to come back which means more attacks inside pakistan. Iran has had hand in attacks in pakistan but in this moment in time, they have very little to gain from alienation pakistan by attacking its military. India on the other hand has alot.

 

[Areesh]

Oh i do acknowledge that, Iran has done that in the past but it was always sectarian in nature. On the other hand attacks on army personals have always had Indian hand. There was a time Iran was playing Indian hand but a doze of reality struck them hard after india abandoned them and now since they are looking at Chinese investment, it makes no sense for them to attack chinese infrastructure in Pakistan.
On the other hand who has the most problem with CPEC, its India and the US. US for over a decade looked the other way while india carried out its subversive activities against pakistan. Even now with the new regime in the US, we can expect much of Obama's policy to come back which means more attacks inside pakistan. Iran has had hand in attacks in pakistan but in this moment in time, they have very little to gain from alienation pakistan by attacking its military. India on the other hand has alot.

Did you read the link that I shared

That attack was on Pakistani soldiers by Baloch separatists and as per your foreign minister it was done by terrorists that have bases in Iran

How would you explain that? These are not sectarian terrorists Shah Mehmood Qureshi was talking about. They are a different issue