Two ex PLAN navy frigate joining in 2018 to Bangladesh Navy.

[Avicenna]

In order to become a doctor one must first learn basic science. One can not learn clinical medicine and basic science concurrently. It is a process and some things are the basis for others.

For example a strong infrastructure, excellent education, good healthcare, and GOOD GOVERNANCE will allow for a more economically, politically, and social prosperous nation. At that point, can a ramp up of military capability be sustainable and non burdensome. Bangladesh has limited resources. Better to be like Norway than North Korea.

We can have both good education/health and military products indigenization. One doesn't have to suffer for the other because we have huge central bank surplus and growing in trade everyday.

If you oppose becoming self-reliant in arms, then you are simply siding with the enemy and supporting Bangladesh becoming a subservient state. This is rather simple to see.

What enemy are you refering to?

 

[Nilgiri]

Bangladesh' HDI and education development goals (including literacy) is higher than neighbors such as India, with _half_ the budget per capita that India spends.

"Goals" = not an argument for realisation.

Enjoy India expanding its HDI at a way faster pace than BD for how many years now?

http://hdr.undp.org/en/data

We have more girls than boys in school, which is unheard of in South Asia

Like that matters an iota when your schools are absolute crap compared to even India's...given your pitiful scoring on how your future workforce is projected to be still worse than India's current one:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/whats-holding-back-bangladesh.474841/#post-9149084

Skills of Current Workforce:

BD: 2.18 (rank 130)
IND: 2.82 (104)


Skills of Future Workforce:

BD: 2.47 (rank 122) (Increase of 0.29)
IND: 3.67 (88) (Increase of 0.85)

I'll copy and paste this to the whatever thread in case you off this one. Just wanted it to get good viewership here too. Nice thread derailment on your part btw (thats on you).

 

[grey boy 2]

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...x-un-report/story-ZyyhZ4QWHMMPQCZfL0m3lL.html

 

[Avicenna]

IF someone will loan you a 3 billion dollars soft loan paid over 30 years then sure, but such a loan can only come from another government but no one in their right mind is gonna loan you 3 billion for ddgs, ships what would effectively be white elephants, military ships do not generate a return(unlike a power station or a port) outside of the immediate shipbuilding business, and if there is no interest or interest that does not keep up with inflation then there is no economical reason, so the only thing left is a political loan, however in any scenario involving bangladesh, a loan for subs/sams/jets makes more sense than 3 DDGs. if your potential enemy is india, then DDG will do no nothing aside from taking fund away from the army, yea you'll be real free alright, roam the ocean all you want while the indian army occupies all your land(if the indian navy dont sink your measly 3 DDGS first). if your potential enemy is myanmar, they barely have a navy to speak of, a force of corvettes/frigates and a strong land force is more than enough. if your potential enemy is the us, then 10 DDGs won't help, let alone 3.

again what bangladesh need is something to play on the enemies weakness, not their strengths, that means get subs, and anti-air, jets, things that are hard to kill, difficult to find and punch above their weight, to defend the homeland, buy time, make it expensive to attack(not necessarily to win), NOT take the fight to a much stronger enemy, make friends that can help you if a potential enemy attacks. for example, india would have to be off the deep end to attack if the front line have say, 5000 americans or chinese for that matter (either civilians or military staff that will get hit hard first).

Brilliant post!

 

[Ideas_R_Bulletproof]

the colonial game of dependency is now coming to an end.... period!!

there's no way Bangladesh would go back in time..... its time to build a strong state... and a strong state doesn't come through dependency.... education, medicine - these are part of the infrastructure to develop a state.... just like prerequisites.... prerequisites never conflict with end products.... military, foreign policy, diplomacy - these are part of the end product..... education, medicine, economy - these are part of the prerequisites..... end products determine what prerequisites need to built up.... these two are never in conflict....

this is not even a discussion..... its deception!!