Two brothers from Dayton taught the world to fly

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Two brothers from Dayton taught the world to fly
UNITED STATES - 18 DECEMBER 2009

WRIGHT-PATTERSON U.S. AIR FORCE BASE, Ohio -- Aviation enthusiasts, Air Force officials and local government leaders gathered here Dec. 17 to remember how two brothers from Dayton, Ohio, changed the world.

The brief ceremony, held adjacent to the Wright Brothers Memorial on base, recognized the 106th anniversary of the first powered flight at Kitty Hawk, N.C., by Orville and Wilbur Wright.

"We cannot envision the problems they faced," said Brig. Gen. Paul Sampson, keynote speaker for the annual First Flight ceremony. "What a life they had."

General Sampson donned a hat and coat immediately recognizable as being from the early 1900s and traced the history of the Wright brothers, their fascination with the vexing problems of manned flight and how they worked together to methodically solve them. He acknowledged the Airmen and civilian employees at Wright-Patt who carry on their legacy, developing and acquiring new aerospace systems. General Sampson currently serves as mobilization assistant to the commander of Aeronautical Systems Center.

"What started here 106 years ago literally changed the course of human development. That's a big deal," said Col. Brad Spacy, 88 Air Base Wing commander.

Standing next to the Wright Brothers Memorial, a 17-foot granite obelisk overlooking the historic Huffman Prairie Flying Field where the Wright brothers returned after their success at Kitty Hawk and perfected their aircraft, Colonel Spacy and Stephen Wright, great grand nephew of the Wright brothers, placed a wreath commemorating the historic first flight.

"To know that 106 years later we'd still get together on the anniversary of that flight and celebrate a little bit, I think would have been very gratifying to Wilbur and Orville," Mr. Wright said.

Today, Huffman Prairie Flying Field and the Wright Brothers Memorial are among several sites in the Dayton region which make up the Dayton Aviation Heritage National Historic Park, operated by the National Park Service. Dean Alexander is the park's superintendent.

"In these challenging times, the story of Wilbur and Orville Wright reminds us of what can be accomplished when imagination is combined with tenacity," Mr. Alexander said, reading a proclamation signed by President Barack Obama which designated Dec. 17, 2009, as Wright Brothers Day.

Immediately after the ceremony, representatives of organizations comprising the National Aviation Heritage Area, held a news conference on plans for 2010. Congress created the area to encourage partnerships to preserve historic aviation resources in southwest Ohio and promote heritage tourism and educational programs. Some of the events noted included:

-- Hawthorn Hill, a historic Dayton mansion built by Orville Wright, has been added to the list of Dayton Aviation Heritage National Historic Park sites.

-- Two Wright B Flyers, flyable look-alikes of the first aircraft flown by the U.S. military, will participate in a March 2 reenactment at Fort Sam Houston in San Antonio. There they will recreate the first flights by Lt. Benjamin Foulois, who had been directed by his commander to "teach himself to fly" the Signal Corp's first military aircraft. Officials also are in the initial stages of planning a Nov. 7, 2010, Wright B Flyer flight from Wright-Patterson Air Force Base to Columbus, Ohio, commemorating the first ever commercial cargo delivery by air. A third Wright B Flyer, currently being built, can be viewed at the Dayton Wright Brothers Airport in Miamisburg, Ohio.

-- The Doolittle Tokyo Raiders will hold their 68th reunion April 16-18 at the National Museum of the U.S. Air Force in Dayton, Ohio. Of the nine living Doolittle Tokyo Raiders, five are currently able to travel and plan to be on-hand for the reunion events. The Doolittle Tokyo Raiders Association, Inc. is currently seeking sponsors to fund a fly-in of 25 B-25 Mitchell bombers during the reunion. If their efforts are successful, the fly in will mark the largest gathering of B-25s since WWII.

-- In the summer 2010, a replica Wright G Flyer, a seaplane variant developed by the Wright brothers, will go on display at Dayton's Carillon Historical Park. The aircraft will be placed in a new 28,000 square-foot educational facility located just yards from the only aircraft designated a national historic landmark: the original Wright Flyer III flown 24 miles by Wilbur Wright on Oct. 5, 1905, often considered the "world's first practical airplane."

A 6-ship formation of Wright-Patterson U.S. Air Force Base, Ohio, Aero Club aircraft performs a flyover Dec. 17, 2009, during a ceremony marking the 106th anniversary of the Wright brothers' first powered flight. Flight lead was retired Lt. Col. R. Kevin Adams, the Aero Club's safety officer and formation flight program manager. The event took place over the Wright Brothers Memorial, part of the Dayton Aviation National Historical Park.

 

[simplex]

There are many technical problems with Flyer I 1903. The plane was unstable, underpowered and had propellers that appeared only in 1908, exactly in the same year when the Wright brothers flew for the first time in front of credible witnesses. The brothers simply lied about their flights in 1903-1905. They built their planes in France in 1908 with french engines (Barriquand et Marre), french propellers and using the entire French flight experience of 1908.

Search on the net for the article: "The Wright brothers the two impostors", for more information.

 

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There are many technical problems with Flyer I 1903. The plane was unstable, underpowered and had propellers that appeared only in 1908, exactly in the same year when the Wright brothers flew for the first time in front of credible witnesses. The brothers simply lied about their flights in 1903-1905. They built their planes in France in 1908 with french engines (Barriquand et Marre), french propellers and using the entire French flight experience of 1908.

Search on the net for the article: "The Wright brothers the two impostors", for more information.

That's ridiculous. The LAST thing the French wanted was to have someone other than them invent a workable plane. Why on earth would they want to give credit for something man (and the French especially) has been trying to do for centuries to two bicycle makers from some no name town in the USA of all places.

That's like the US helping the Cubans make and take credit for landing a man on the moon.

 

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There are many technical problems with Flyer I 1903. The plane was unstable, underpowered and had propellers that appeared only in 1908, exactly in the same year when the Wright brothers flew for the first time in front of credible witnesses. The brothers simply lied about their flights in 1903-1905. They built their planes in France in 1908 with french engines (Barriquand et Marre), french propellers and using the entire French flight experience of 1908.

Search on the net for the article: "The Wright brothers the two impostors", for more information.

Oh wow..this is too much. Haha.

 

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Search on the net the topic: The Wright brothers just glided in 1903. They flew in 1908. on pprune or pilotsofamerica and read the discusions from there. The interest in the subject is not so great on defence pk so I will not restart here a discussion that advanced considerably on the two forums I mentioned.

"the brothers only “glided” off Kill Devil Hill that day. Their first real flight came on May 6, 1908", Alpheus W. Drinkwater, telegraph operator.

"Wilbur and Orville Wright are credited with making their first powered flight in a heavier-than-air machine on Dec. 17, 1903. But Alpheus W. Drinkwater, 76 years old, who sent the telegraph message ushering in the air age, said the brothers only “glided” off Kill Devil Hill that day. Their first real flight came on May 6, 1908, he said." Source: New York Times, Dec. 17, 1951.

Another witness, John T. Daniels, in a 1933 letter addressed to a friend, wrote he had seen the plane being carried up on a hill twice. In one picture, Daniels claimed he had made himself, the slope going down in front of the airplane, that had just taken off, is visible. Another picture, with the plane landed, displays a big sand dune in the background as if the plane came from it.

 

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Search on the net the topic: The Wright brothers just glided in 1903. They flew in 1908. on pprune or pilotsofamerica and read the discusions from there. The interest in the subject is not so great on defence pk so I will not restart here a discussion that advanced considerably on the two forums I mentioned.

"the brothers only “glided” off Kill Devil Hill that day. Their first real flight came on May 6, 1908", Alpheus W. Drinkwater, telegraph operator.

"Wilbur and Orville Wright are credited with making their first powered flight in a heavier-than-air machine on Dec. 17, 1903. But Alpheus W. Drinkwater, 76 years old, who sent the telegraph message ushering in the air age, said the brothers only “glided” off Kill Devil Hill that day. Their first real flight came on May 6, 1908, he said." Source: New York Times, Dec. 17, 1951.

Another witness, John T. Daniels, in a 1933 letter addressed to a friend, wrote he had seen the plane being carried up on a hill twice. In one picture, Daniels claimed he had made himself, the slope going down in front of the airplane, that had just taken off, is visible. Another picture, with the plane landed, displays a big sand dune in the background as if the plane came from it.

No they glided in 1901. Their first machine was a glider. They were perfecting their aerodynamics first before putting an engine into it.

Wilbur and Orville Wright Timeline, 1867-1948

 

[simplex]

One thing is 100% sure, the Wright Brothers contributed nothing to the progress of powered flight because no pictures or technical drawing of their alleged 1903-1905 planes was published before 1908.

The two american inventors appeared with their flying machine in 1908, in a moment when in France aviators had already flown various planes since 1906.

The Wrights' airplane became known in August 1908 when the flight duration record was already around 19 minutes.
Beside a few flight records established in autumn - winter 1908, the Wright Brothers did not do anything exceptional.

The story of Wilbur and Orville Wright has so many holes that only naive people can believe it.

 

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"No picture of the machine has as yet been taken.", The Dayton Journal, Ohio, December 24, 1903.

From the article fully quoted below it is clear that the well known picture allegedly taken on Dec. 17, 1903 (and published for the first time in Sep. 1908) was made at a later date.

1903-12-24, “The Wright Brothers Return Home. Claim That Results Are More Satisfactory Than Ever Before.”, Dayton Journal, Ohio, US, December 24, 1903, Scrapbook - Library of Congress, US.​

"The Wright Brothers Return Home.
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CLAIM THAT RESULTS ARE MORE SATISFACTORY THAN EVER BEFORE.
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Entire Structure Constitutes a Practical Machine and is Not a Mere Plaything to be Rebuilt After Each Flight.
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Messrs. Wilbur and Orville Wright, the two enterprising sons of Bishop Milton Wright, residing on Hawthorn street, who have been at Kitty Hawk, N. C., having completed their fourth autumn in perfecting their flying machine, which they have denominated the “Wright Flyer,” arrived home over the Big Four shortly after 8 last night.
They have been working steadily and hard since leaving this city. They were greatly fatigued and when approached by a Journal representative, said that they had nothing additional to that which had already been published to give out at this time.

They claimed that the test just completed had been the most successful that they had ever made, the first tangible results which carried with them all reasonable assurance of success having been achieved about a week ago. They said that many of the stories that had been published relative to their plans and experiences while at Kitty Hawk were wholly unauthorised and contained such glaring discrepancies as to be little less than absurd.

They said that at the time their greatest success was accomplished they started from the level with engine power alone and they attained an average speed through the air of 31 miles, the longest time during which they were continuously in air being 57 seconds.

They said that even had there been any misgivings in their minds regarding the ultimate success of the enterprise, all fears vanished when they realized what they had accomplished, as they believed that their coveted ambitions were about to be fulfilled. At this time they telegraphed their father, whom they kept closely informed regarding the successive developments, as follows:

Kitty Hawk, N. C., Dec. 17.
Bishop M. Wright. 7 Hawthorn street:
We have made four successful flights this morning, all against a 21-mile wind. We started from level with engine power alone. Our average speed through the air was 31 miles. Our longest time in the air was 57 seconds.
ORVILLE WRIGHT.

Their subsequent efforts were all gratifying and the young men are completely elated with their achievements. Several minor details will yet be arranged before another test is made.

But little could be gained regarding the experiences of their trip or relative to their future plans. A detailed description of the flyer will probably be procured within a short time. No picture of the machine has as yet been taken."

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