Turkistan Islamic Party claims western China attacks

[Desert Fox]

Lately i have been seeing a lot of Pakistanis speaking against Pakistan's all weather reliable ally China. It really disappoints me indeed to see that many of my countrymen still suffer from the "Ummah" disease and are defending the terrorist organization "East Turkistan Movement", a movement that is behind riots, and suicide bombings in China.

People need to seriously wake up and understand that in Pakistan's times of need, when the whole world turned its back on Pakistan, it wasn't any "Ummah" that came to Pakistan's aid, it was the Peoples Republic of China. It is this very "Ummah" mentality that has turned Pakistan into a breeding ground for international terrorism. Why is it that every Terrorist scum be it from Arab lands, Uzbekistan, Xinjiang, North Africa, Balkans is traced back to Pakistan? These people are not even Pakistanis, they are foreign criminals who damage Pakistan's national interests and its global image. There should be a nationwide crackdown and execution of every terrorist sympathizer. No Muslim country will ever come to Pakistan's aid if ever Pakistan were to be attacked in any way.

I sincerely apologize to my Chinese friends on behalf of some of my countrymen who have been misled by the imaginary "Ummah" concept (which is a myth BTW).

 

[genjuro]

We'll probably shoot some more Uighurs for fun and there's nothing you can do about it.

Criminals who kill innocent must be punished, regardless of their race and ethnicity.

On the other hand, comments like yours only make the hatred worse. I'm happy that the majority of Chinese are NOT like you.

 

[pmukherjee]

OK so it has become a pride thing between the Chinese and the Turks here. The Pakistanis, who do not really fit in anywhere are trying to decide which way to jump. Whether to side with the Turks as decreed by the the Ummah specialists or to defend the Chinese who help keep Pakistan afloat with their help??? What a dilemma!! No one is however talking now of the Uighurs who get trained in Pakistan and fight the Chinese.
Everyone just waits for the day the Chinese launch a massive offensive and wipe out the Uighur resistance from East Turkestan as they did/are doing in Tibet.

 

[Zulkarneyn]

You're from Kayseri? I stayed there for one night, got there in the evening from Cappadokia.
Cappadokia is amazing!!! Too bad didn't have enough time to expore Kayseri enough, exhausted. The next morning I flew to Istanbul from Kayseri airport.

You're right. Peope in smaller cities are nicer , in general , than big cities. I had great experience during the trip, from Bodrum, Ephesus, Pamukkale, the silk road, Konya to Cappadokia. The first meal I wasn't used to Ayran, but by the end of the trip it become my favorite . The only bad experience actually was in Istanbul. The taxi driver dropped me 3km away from the hotel and told me it's just right around the corner, lol.

Blue mosque is amazing! Cruise on Bosporus strait was great. And I really liked Turkish Pizza. Just curious why people chose such a name? It doesn't taste like pizza to me

I am born in Denmark but my parents are from Kayseri. I totally agree with you that people from smaller cities tend to be much nicer. But central Anatolian people are generally really nice people regardless of the size of the city. That is why people who come to Turkey usually falls in love with the country and makes Turkey their permanent residency.

Actually the thing you call Turkish Pizza is not called Turkish pizza by Turks. It is lahmacun (or pide) and Turks like lahmacun/pide much more than pizza, if this is what you mean http://www.surf2istanbul.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/b-348773-lahmacun5.jpg. I actually think it is much older than Pizza and Pizza is maybe a copy Italians made, it could be the opposite as well of course. lahmacun with ayran tastes so goood btw
Just out of pure curiousity, are you Chinese or Canadian?

 

[pmukherjee]

Criminals who kill innocent must be punished, regardless of their race and ethnicity.

On the other hand, comments like yours only make the hatred worse. I'm happy that the majority of Chinese are NOT like you.

What majority of Chinese? My Canadian friend, China does not function on the principle of majority. It is what a few 'wise men' decide within closed doors, that becomes the State Policy. Or did you not know that?

 

[Kaniska]

Being an Indian and being experience to go both Istanbul and some cities of China.....I can honestly tell you....there is no point in comparing China with Turkey....Comparison should be made between the competitors not with the unequal....

 

[Desert Fox]

OK so it has become a pride thing between the Chinese and the Turks here. The Pakistanis, who do not really fit in anywhere are trying to decide which way to jump. Whether to side with the Turks as decreed by the the Ummah specialists or to defend the Chinese who help keep Pakistan afloat with their help??? What a dilemma!! No one is however talking now of the Uighurs who get trained in Pakistan and fight the Chinese.
Everyone just waits for the day the Chinese launch a massive offensive and wipe out the Uighur resistance from East Turkestan as they did/are doing in Tibet.

What's your point?

Unfortunately Pakistan has no choice, the terrorists fleeing Xinjiang somehow make it into Pakistan's territory and later cross back into China and commit atrocious acts in the name of Islam, and this is an attempt to harm Pakistan-China relations, this is not acceptable and must be stopped at all costs.

 

[Kaniska]

@SilentNinja: Agreed.....wheather Pakistan agrees of not every separatist movemnet in this world needs to be crushed ruthlessly....for a terror free world...wahetaher it is in Ugjigur movement,Kashmir separatism ,LTTE or etc....

 

[pmukherjee]

What's your point?

Unfortunately Pakistan has no choice, the terrorists fleeing Xinjiang somehow make it into Pakistan's territory and later cross back into China and commit atrocious acts in the name of Islam, and this is an attempt to harm Pakistan-China relations, this is not acceptable and must be stopped at all costs.

Is it now? Or is it just an extension of the Muslim Ummah theory your people so proudly propound? Why not ask Mr Lal Topi, Zaid Hamid? He talks a lot about Ummah.

 

[Zulkarneyn]

Being an Indian and being experience to go both Istanbul and some cities of China.....I can honestly tell you....there is no point in comparing China with Turkey....Comparison should be made between the competitors not with the unequal....

Don't you think your post can be misinterpreted?

 

[Desert Fox]

Is it now? Or is it just an extension of the Muslim Ummah theory your people so proudly propound? Why not ask Mr Lal Topi, Zaid Hamid? He talks a lot about Ummah.

So you take Zaid Hamids word for every Pakistani? Come on, i know your better than that!

 

[pmukherjee]

Don't you think your post can be misinterpreted?

Look, Indians are in no doubt. We have all kinds of agreements and interactions including Military interactions going on with Turkey. That is not the case with China.

 

[pmukherjee]

So you take Zaid Hamids word for every Pakistani? Come on, i know your better than that!

I meant that a sword cuts both ways. Yes Zaid Hamids words do not represent that of all Pakistanis. But he shouts the loudest, doesn't he?

 

[Desert Fox]

I meant that a sword cuts both ways. Yes Zaid Hamids words do not represent that of all Pakistanis. But he shouts the loudest, doesn't he?

How does that prove anything? He's one man and does not have a lot of credibility. He's not the only one who "shouts the loudest", and am sure there are plenty of people from your side who "shout the loudest" and are given a lot of media attention. You need to change your perception of Pakistanis, not everyone wears red caps and is a self appointed analyst.

 

[pmukherjee]

How does that prove anything? He's one man and does not have a lot of credibility. He's not the only one who "shouts the loudest", and am sure there are plenty of people from your side who "shout the loudest" and are given a lot of media attention. You need to change your perception of Pakistanis, not everyone wears red caps and is a self appointed analyst.

Hahahahahaha, Touché. Have to take your leave now friend. Busy day tomorrow. All the best, good night.