Turkish warships stop Italy’s ENI rig in waters off Cyprus

[dani191]

but you dont have nukes

 

[TheCamelGuy]

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Since 2011, Egypt has been losing ground against a virulent but numerically small insurgency in the Sinai. Notwithstanding its 440,000-strong standing army and $1.3 billion in annual U.S. military assistance, over the past five years, Egypt has been unable to contain—much less roll back—an estimated 600–1,000 insurgents.

During the same time period, ISIS has killed an estimated 2,000 Egyptian military officers and policemen in the Sinai.

http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/egypts-failed-war-on-terror

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/egypt/2017-05-10/egypts-failed-war-terror

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...to-be-a-turning-point-in-egypts-war-on-terror

All articles states a failure of Egypt against ISIS since 7-8 years.
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We are pointing out a fact, not overestimating anything. Neither Egypt, nor Iraq is a match to Turkey in terms of military, economicaly, industrially, Nato based training standarts. Losing soldiers/machines are the nature of wars. We are not losing control/ground against terrorists. PYd and IsIs can not even be comparable in assymetric warfare. PYD is US backed group having number/weapon and moral advantages, earning ground against ISIS terrorists, same group Iraq lost 1/3 of country and strategic petrol locations against them or same group Egypt could not beat them in Sinai since 7-8 years according to sources (600-1000 IsISterrorists) but request help from Russia. Israel even strikes Egyptian land to cover their inability, While a big US leading coalition/Iran militants helped Iraq to control IsIs advance areas. Additions, PYD is one of the most dangerous terrorist organization have been trained/armed by US and organizing (10000 PYD terrorists) them in Afrin since 30 years with “unbeatable” tunnels so Before talking about Turkish Army that killed around 1400 PYD terrorists within 20 days with around 20 army personnal, a few tank lost, think about your own countries’ ability to secure your future. Talking is cheap. TAF don’t even use much thing serious but approaching the region with considering sensitivity for civilians.

Turkish Army destroys not only PYD but also PKK, DHKP-C and ISIS all togather inside/outside the country in multiple fronts at Iraq/Syria, While engaging Greek Navy on Turkish EEZ and Kardak islands to protect Aegean sovereign, helping NATO in Afganistan against Taliban, establishing oversea military bases in Qatar, Sudan and Somalian like countries and very active in Eastern Mediterranean to protect the rights of Turkish Cypriots for Mediterranean sovereign simultaneously so keep your brain power to improve the stability and tactics of your countries to defeat terrorist organizationa inside of your borders to protect your sovereign against terrorists/seperatists instead of calling Russians/Americans for help before measuring your ego with Turks in forums. Talking nonsense about Turks to feel better doesn’t make you really strong. Turks are friends of Arabs as long as you don’t put your noses into our problems with Greeks such as Egypt that is cancelling old agreements between us to take some hostile measures with siding Greeks against Turkey.

Yes I get it, you want to tell me that you're superior in any way and that we should respect u for it whilst you trash us. Nah I don't feel like it, not impressed by what you wrote.

PKK is a joke of an enemy as well, militarily they're nothing. It's more of a loyalty problem you have in the south-east. You're bringing Iraq into it again, Iraq had no air force in 2014 and had its military dismantled after 2004, only the recent offensive reorganized the armed forces. If you bring up American air support you need to consider that without Turkish air force you're just as incapable.

The last part is very hypocritical, telling me not to stick my nose into your problems whilst you stick yours into ours.

Compare unit to unit for a more accurate conclusion, remove the flag.

 

[cabatli_53]

Yes I get it, you want to tell me that you're superior in any way and that we should respect u for it whilst you trash us. Nah I don't feel like it, not impressed by what you wrote.

PKK is a joke of an enemy as well, militarily they're nothing. It's more of a loyalty problem you have in the south-east. You're bringing Iraq into it again, Iraq had no air force in 2014 and had its military dismantled after 2004, only the recent offensive reorganized the armed forces. If you bring up American air support you need to consider that without Turkish air force you're just as incapable.

The last part is very hypocritical, telling me not to stick my nose into your problems whilst you stick yours into ours.

Compare unit to unit for a more accurate conclusion, remove the flag.

1- You said Turks don’t have anything special to be ahead of any ME country, even less capable force than Iraqi one at insurgency operations and I thought You made a joke firstly. When I got you were serious, I have just tried to prove the false way of your thinking ability with giving some examples from a few country related to natıre of this topic. I don’t have a mission to convince anybody about strength level of TAF. I just put my points on table from my percpective.

2- PKK/PYD such a joke that they have stoped ISIS terrorists thanks to US support, later started advance over them, later captured their capital. The ISIS, defeated by those jokes, were the same one who invaded 1/3 of your country with a wave of atack. They had captured your brand new Abrams tanks that Your soldiers abandoned them to escape. They have captured your petrol locations, strategic cities, dams...etc Later, 3-4 coalition airforces along with Iranian militants/coalition special forces helped Iraq to take your lands back from ISIS. Victory came with total destruction of city with many civilian casualties and loses of thousands of Iraqi soldiers. Turks are beating those jokes who got many victory against your nightmare right now.

2- The EEZ problems between Greece and Turkey has nothing to do Iraq’s security. If you itch those problem with siding Greek side against Turkey, Turks comprehend such actions as hostility of a neighbour so you may hear harsh and strong statements, even some politic and military actions. That’s normal but the problems occuring alongde to our borders say it in Iraq, Syria directly interests Turkish Republic since the terrorists controlling your border giving harm to Turkish citizens, affecting the security of our borders/cities, flooding many civilians...etc. If you can’t control the areas where is inside of your sovereign, another one who is disturbed come to provide own security with force inside/outside borders. That is an international rights of nations.

3- Removing the flags for one by one comparison is acceptable for video games but not considered as real stregth criterias. It is the reason Turkish Armed Forces is introduced inside Top-10 biggest forces of the World. There are many other factora affecting the strength of nations such as industry, economy, ambitious, experiences, nation’s characteristics, logistic, training, standarts and transportation capabilities...etc

 

[MMM-E]

without Turkish air force you're just as incapable

Turkish Army cleaned 21 districts from the terrorist without Airforce
and between 22 july 2015 and 26 march 2016 Turkish Army killed 4432 Pkk terrorists in urban warfare without Airforce

and We lost 377 security forces


on the other hand over 110.000 troops including 600 French troops and hundreds of Australian and Canadian Special Forces fought against around 10.000 ISIS terrorists in MOSUL
and Iraqi Army, Pesmerga ,Iran backed groups lost around 10.000 troops

and tens of thousands of civilian were killed in MOSUL

also the US led airstrikes including 24 French Rafale Fighter Jets bombed Mosul day and night

 

[Baybars Han]

Yes I get it, you want to tell me that you're superior in any way and that we should respect u for it whilst you trash us. Nah I don't feel like it, not impressed by what you wrote.

PKK is a joke of an enemy as well, militarily they're nothing. It's more of a loyalty problem you have in the south-east. You're bringing Iraq into it again, Iraq had no air force in 2014 and had its military dismantled after 2004, only the recent offensive reorganized the armed forces. If you bring up American air support you need to consider that without Turkish air force you're just as incapable.

The last part is very hypocritical, telling me not to stick my nose into your problems whilst you stick yours into ours.

Compare unit to unit for a more accurate conclusion, remove the flag.

Take away USA Air force and us ground force is a joke, take away Israeli Air force Israel ground force is a joke(the ones that supposedly smashed by hezbollah)

Take away mongol horse archers and they are pathetic.

You see what I'm saying?

 

[TheCamelGuy]

Turkish Army cleaned 21 districts from the terrorist without Airforce
and between 22 july 2015 and 26 march 2016 Turkish Army killed 4432 Pkk terrorists in urban warfare without Airforce

and We lost 377 security forces


on the other hand over 110.000 troops including 600 French troops and hundreds of Australian and Canadian Special Forces fought against around 10.000 ISIS terrorists in MOSUL
and Iraqi Army, Pesmerga ,Iran backed groups lost around 10.000 troops

and tens of thousands of civilian were killed in MOSUL

also the US led airstrikes including 24 French Rafale Fighter Jets bombed Mosul day and night

Incorrect numbers

 

[Amun]

You Turks even lies about Mohamed Ali and Ibrahim Pasha.....those who led The Egyptian army to the boarders of Astana....then you called every western nation to save you....including Russia,England and France....as you do in the current time by being NATO member and kill/invade other Muslims territories.

@xenon54 .....I have edited my comment here for your own sake... the thread is about Cyprus and Turkey.... why Egypt is called here by your fellow Turks..?! Then starts to say bullshit that needed to be clarified..

 

[Hexciter]

but you dont have nukes

All the world knows the fact that Israel have nukes except for your idiot but very idiot politicans!

For us may be we had already, may be not yet! But I am sure that you sure to be know that we don’t have! May be that’s a truth may be not! God knows!

 

[925boy]

but you dont have nukes

and you cant use yours so whats the point?

 

[MMM-E]

You Turks even lies about Mohamed Ali and Ibrahim Pasha.....those who led The Egyptian army to the boarders of Astana....then you called every western nation to save you....including Russia,England and France

its not 1830s its 2018 .. and Your Egypt was part of the Ottoman Empire for 400 years ,,know your place

and only traitor scums can attack its own Government in the weakest period with French and British helping and weapons
Egypt was part of the Ottoman Empire in 1830s and traitor Mehmed Ali Pasha was commander in the Ottoman Army and who rose to the rank of Pasha and became Vali in Egypt


so what do want to say ? dreaming about to attack Turkey ? currently Egypt has no power to match to Turkey
only Turkish Missile technology is enough for Enemies in the region


1000+km Turkish Ballistic Missiles to burn enemy capital city in the region ( its export version of 1000+km Turkish Ballistic Missile )




Turkish Navy 16 Frigates , 4 ADA class Corvettes and 12 Submarines and Turkish Airforce 163 CCIP modernized F-16 and 48 F4 Terminator Fighter Jets to destroy enemy Navies

also 29 F-16C/D block50+ F-16 Fighter Jets armed with 50 AGM-84 SLAM-ER Cruise Missiles

220+km Turkish latest technology ATMACA Anti Ship Missile


250+km Turkish latest technology SOM Cruise Missile ( land attack / anti ship capability )




Turkish latest technology OMTAS Anti Tank Missile to destroy all enemy Tanks





Turkish latest technology HISAR-A Air Defense System to intercept Cruise Missiles






Turkish latest technology HISAR-O Air Defense System will turn all Enemy Fighter Jets to burned bird





Thanks to the Turkish Defense Industry who develops over 600 military projects to kick Enemies

 

[damm1t]

its not 1830s its 2018 .. and Your Egypt was part of the Ottoman Empire for over 400 years ,,know your place

and only traitor scums can attack its own Government with French and British Weapons ( in the weakest period )
Egypt was part of the Ottoman Empire in 1830s and traitor Mehmed Ali Pasha was commander in the Ottoman Army and who rose to the rank of Pasha and became Vali in Egypt


so what do want to say ? dreaming about to attack Turkey ? currently Egypt has no power to match to Turkey
only Turkish Missile technology is enough for Enemies in the region


1000+km Turkish Ballistic Missiles to burn enemy capital city in the region ( its export version of 1000+km Turkish Ballistic Missile )




Turkish Navy 16 Frigates , 4 ADA class Corvettes and 12 Submarines and Turkish Airforce 163 CCIP modernized F-16 Fighter Jets to destroy enemy Navies

220+km Turkish ATMACA Anti Ship Missile


250+km Turkish SOM Cruise Missile ( land attack / anti ship capability )




Turkish latest technology OMTAS Anti Tank Missile to destroy all enemy Tanks




Turkish HISAR-O Air Defense System will turn all Enemy Fighter Jets to burned bird





Thanks to the Turkish Defense Industry who develops over 600 military projects to kick Enemies

Lol they forget that Ibrahim Pasha assigned by the sultan himself to Egypt then he rebelled. Egypt was nothing more than a vessel for Turks, a city.. Just like today's İstanbul. Ibrahim Pasha was just a piece of trash who seeked for oppurtunity when the empire struggle with other problems. A traitor. It was empire's inner problem.

 

[Serpentine]

I don't see why Egypt and Turkey need to be enemies. Their problem seems to be a mere ideological difference between two governments. Erdogan being pro-MB and Egypt being anti-MB. These two countries can be two natural allies. Also Egypt needs to get out of Saudi Arabia's clout a little bit more and regain its proper place in Arab world. Today's position of Egypt is nothing compared to what it was in 60s and early 70s.

 

[Amun]

I don't see why Egypt and Turkey need to be enemies. Their problem seems to be a mere ideological difference between two governments. Erdogan being pro-MB and Egypt being anti-MB. These two countries can be two natural allies. Also Egypt needs to get out of Saudi Arabia's clout a little bit more and regain its proper place in Arab world. Today's position of Egypt is nothing compared to what it was in 60s and early 70s.

Egypt haven't started this.....Turkish government started that by supporting MB terrorists in Egypt so they can control the country just like Syria...
and the following is just a sample of what happening.....that terorist works in a channel broadcasting from Turkey under the approval of it's terrorists loving government.

Then when Egypt discovered gas in It's EEZ in Easteren Mediterranean and also Cyprus and Israel...Turkish government started to make statements about it needs a part of those several discoveries .... we just care about our EEZ we are not Colonists like others...but any hand tries to touch our gas fields will be cutted.

 

[dani191]

and you cant use yours so whats the point?

we can

 

[MMM-E]

we can

SAMSON Option ? and Turkey can reach to nukes in 24 hours . Pakistan ZINDABAD